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lol glacial cloth?

Blackie

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Glacial cloth is pretty inconsequential right about now. Between EA's issues(45% down) and Broadsword's issues (Mark Jacobs is back) it's probably time to try and get your friends to try the game and to support it by using the store a little.

Perhaps glacial cloth will be re-introduced down the road, but not if the stock keeps doing that.

"Thanks yadda yadda... time to close yadda yadda... enjoy 30 days in another of our games on us, bye!" is the typical farewell.

An idea: Anyone who spends $1000 in the origin store unlocks a support achievement level and is rewarded with glacial cloth wearing ability account wide! While I hate micro-payments the funds are badly needed and, apparently, some reeeeeeeaaaaaly want glacial cloth.
 

TheGrimReefer

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Mesanna has been hypocritical on this subject for years claiming she hates the Glacial color but yet dresses in full glacial clothing. DELETE ON SIGHT HUH? Why hasnt a GM deleted her glacial clothing on sight?
She knew about the glacial tub way before it was made known to the community yet she allowed certain people to cash in on the exploited tubs. Why didnt Mesanna say something when all the glacial clothing was being sold here on stratics. Why wasnt the people selling it banned and the gold deleted. She knew it was illegal so why were people still able to sell it? Its questions like this that makes me wonder what else she allows people to do until the community learns about it.
 

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Mesanna has been hypocritical on this subject for years claiming she hates the Glacial color but yet dresses in full glacial clothing. DELETE ON SIGHT HUH? Why hasnt a GM deleted her glacial clothing on sight?.
I was thinking the same when this thread started, it looks tacky, not pretty. I guess they play by different rules...
 

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Just to add fuel to the fire... I asked how much it would cost to buy this robe as it is apparently for sale...

EIGHT (8) platinum for the glacial robe.

Yikes...
 

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Just to add fuel to the fire... I asked how much it would cost to buy this robe as it is apparently for sale...

EIGHT (8) platinum for the glacial robe.

Yikes...

Absolutly never understood the obsession with fluff items. If it doesn't help me or do something to make battle easier I'm just not interested in it. Let alone 8 plat. I don't think I've accumilated that in my entire time playing!! In RMT that's over half my mortgage payment!!
 

Khaelor

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So Mesanna went out of her way to make things right... and the person in question is turning around and trying to profit off of it... gotta love UO greed.
 

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What happened? What did he do? Who did he do it too? I have to know!
 

petemage

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We knew it would happen, he knew he would do it, she knew he would do it.

This was predestined, people. lol

It's all out there and just so blatant now, it isn't even being done in dark corners and shadows anymore...
Everyone that cared has left by now and they pretty much figured how easy they can do whatever they want with those left.

As long as the lead is a glorified GM without any supervisor, the game will continue to become a cash grab for those involved.

Personally I hate myself for supporting that couldnt-care-less team, but then I don't drop all my stuff over like 10 bucks each 3 months..

If removing Mesanna meant the game closes down, I would still vote for it for the love of UO!
 

Cymidei

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I think the vast majority of us just wish the other play styles were as interesting to the team such as role play, pvp, etc. The rares crowd, uggh why so much love for those weasels?


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MalagAste

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I think the vast majority of us just wish the other play styles were as interesting to the team such as role play, pvp, etc. The rares crowd, uggh why so much love for those weasels?


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I just wish they would bring community back... Long ago you really kinda needed a guild to do many things... Killing just a dragon was intense... Lich Lords brought fear ... Now they are nothing.... even the mightiest of dragons can be solo'd... Ancient wyrms a joke... I almost really miss blackrock infecting things as this actually made many things a whole lot more challenging...

It seems anymore rewards favor being solo... if there was an incentive to bring more people to do things I think it would help... though on that same token that would also encourage more people to multibox and multiclient... so how can you win?

Not sure I'd be willing to give up house customization to do it but I almost wish we could go back prior to AoS... back to when the game was more simple... yet more challenging and more fun.
 

Lythos-

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Not sure I'd be willing to give up house customization to do it but I almost wish we could go back prior to AoS... back to when the game was more simple... yet more challenging and more fun.
You didn't enjoy getting your PHD in math to learn skill mechanics and formulas and to put a suit together?
 

Fridgster

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You didn't enjoy getting your PHD in math to learn skill mechanics and formulas and to put a suit together?
One person disdain is anothers enjoyment. I actually like breaking out the excel sheet and making the perfect suit for a specific encounter and build. Of course I've never been accused of being sane.....
 

petemage

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I think the vast majority of us just wish the other play styles were as interesting to the team such as role play, pvp, etc. The rares crowd, uggh why so much love for those weasels?


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It's where the money is.

If someone finds a way to make RPers buy tons of gold and spent it on weekly items created out of thin air, Bonnie will be all ear ;)
 

petemage

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And the PVPers dont care if Mesanna's name is on a robe or not as long as it got good stats. How more disrespectful can it get???
 

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Oh. it has happened, i found my wallet behind a chair i looked behind several times, after i had replaced the DL and credit/debit cards. then there was the day my wife was late to work because i had to bring her my key to her car. so i decided to get some ice for my drink before i went back to work and guess what was in the freezer?
 

MalagAste

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Oh. it has happened, i found my wallet behind a chair i looked behind several times, after i had replaced the DL and credit/debit cards. then there was the day my wife was late to work because i had to bring her my key to her car. so i decided to get some ice for my drink before i went back to work and guess what was in the freezer?
I always get annoyed because when I go to get in my car I pull out my house key and wonder what is the matter... then I remember OH FOB... then I go to get in the house and am holding the FOB end... and wonder WTH??? Then at work I get on the elevator hit the close the door button and wonder why I'm not moving after 1 or 2 min... Then I remember to hit the 1 button... very annoying.

But then I've never been good with names but can remember 100's of strings of numbers... What was that guys potassium from last night? Why it was XYZ... but can I remember what his name was??? Hell no... I can remember there was a person with a low hemoglobin... but couldn't say who that was either... sometimes that's a great thing... Keeps me from violating any HIPPA crap... I can't talk about people if I don't remember anyones name. Lived in this town some near 20 years now... I know almost no one. My kids' friends but then I don't really know their names either I know what my kids call then which isn't necessarily their real name. People I work with... sometimes the "frequent fliers"... but again by face recognition, I could tell you what labs they usually come in for but not their name.

But then I have ADD and CDO (real OCD sufferers know it's CDO)... so maybe that has something to do with it...
 

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Well, I have OCD, and all my life I have struggled with ADD, but is CDO "Collateralized Debt Obligation"?
Just kidding..:)
 

celticus

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I feel lucky.... I just suffer from CRS.
Nope, you don't..Not if its cardiorenal syndrome..I hope not.
But lots of us have ADD mild-moderate as children, mostly males. But I mostly outgrew it. Was never diagnosed or "treated" thank god for that. And OCD-perfectionism, just mild form also. Both helped me in a strange way, to be able to multitask mostly, and kinda become a workaholic, not having done too bad altogether. Frankly the perfectionism part was the most damaging overall, as nothing ever was "good enough" and stop there.:offtopic:
 

Fizzleton

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Well, at least I found replies that seemed to come from adults. Thx for all of them!

How can u become so addicted about this issue? Kelmo put it right - the servers will go down forever one day, and all those *holy* pixels will be gone with them. And all of our toons. So enjoy the game as long as it is alive and get away from anything that whispers to you: Get this glacial robe, my precious!
 

Uriah Heep

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Yes those servers will. And that is why I won't spend many $$ at the store for anything...
 

petemage

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I mean she could have compensated him gold or free credits for the store. But that's no hard cash. A 8 plat robe otoh will make someone either buy gold or use straight paypal.

I always try to hold it with Occam's razor, but it gets harder and harder to just blame it on pure incompetence *shrugs*
 

Luc of Legends

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Okay sis and I were discussing this whole glacial cloth fiasco and Jirel had a flash of accounting brilliance. IF the little short bus riders want glacial then give it to them . . .
IN THE UO STORE!!!! Mesanna could put a Glacial Dye Tub for 10,000 Sovereigns that's a $100 bucks real life money for the math challenged. I guarantee they'll line up to buy it.
Why not UO make money off these players. Other games are making crazy money off their players, why shouldn't UO?
 

Martell

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I mean she could have compensated him gold or free credits for the store.
This might have been a good solution except there is a well documented, twenty year history of GM's, EM's, and everyone associated with the game professionally telling folks who were scammed out of gold/items or lost their houses/pets/gold/items due to legitimate bugs that they cannot and will not replace your items...

This was entirely user error and she, for whatever reason, decided to go against two decades worth of well documented policy.
 

Martell

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Okay sis and I were discussing this whole glacial cloth fiasco and Jirel had a flash of accounting brilliance. IF the little short bus riders want glacial then give it to them . . .
IN THE UO STORE!!!! Mesanna could put a Glacial Dye Tub for 10,000 Sovereigns that's a $100 bucks real life money for the math challenged. I guarantee they'll line up to buy it.
Why not UO make money off these players. Other games are making crazy money off their players, why shouldn't UO?
See my answer above.

For me, personally, I don't care about the item. I care about the lead professional of this game doing something that so clearly goes against the policies of the game.

Plain and simple, she's incompetent or corrupt.
 

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This might have been a good solution except there is a well documented, twenty year history of GM's, EM's, and everyone associated with the game professionally telling folks who were scammed out of gold/items or lost their houses/pets/gold/items due to legitimate bugs that they cannot and will not replace your items...

This was entirely user error and she, for whatever reason, decided to go against two decades worth of well documented policy.
It's not exactly the first time. Despite the "lost items won't be replaced" thing, lost items do get replaced or compensated with free stuff randomly. Two examples of this I've seen first hand from Mesanna herself were both guildies/friends.

The first one had his 15th anniversary robe get stuck below his house somehow while locking it down, and it decayed before it could be gotten back. So Mesanna made him a new one to replace it. They were worth about 800m at the time.

The second person didn't even lose anything, just sent a lot of emails complaining of people being mean in general chat, and she was given two free shard transfer tokens and two name change tokens worth about 200m total at the time. Not special account bound ones or anything, identical to store bought ones that could have been sold on vendors.

The help was definitely appreciated, but that doesn't set a very good precedent to have the lead developer randomly breaking their own policy even if it's to help people. They should just change the policy if they want to do that.
 

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I tried to stay outta this cause I really don’t care much abt pixel crack. Imho, if it’s not got mods that help a character, who cares. I understand some folks thrive in this area that I avoid so live and let live.

That said, I also don’t believe in absolutes. Some rules, sometimes... should be broken. Those in charge sometimes get taken advantage of by others while trying to act in the most benevolent ways. That doesn’t mean there’s nefarious intent outside of those seeking to take the advantage. Bad apples are a fact of life (__insert former EM that I won’t dignify by even naming__) but get dealt with in time.

The folks in charge should rightfully have some wiggle room and I will continue to trust in their judgement until shown definitive proof of wrongdoings. I know that’s also subjective perception but I always try to give the benefit of doubt unless slapped in the face with a cold reality. Where I’m sitting, the water temperature is just fine. :)
 

Eärendil

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Many wise postings here. I wish to add a last one from my side:

Who cares?

I can only say: Life is too meaningful and too short to sit in front of a computer monitor and complain and cry. If the game annoys you so much - switch it off, go eat some icecream or drink a beer. Enjoy your life before it is over. UO will survive many of us, promise!

Complaining and crying all the time doesnt make your life brighter. Maybe you need another hobby, such as making quilts, baking, watching ethically correct pornography. Whatever, but stop complaining.

Happy new year!
 

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Many wise postings here. I wish to add a last one from my side:

Who cares?

I can only say: Life is too meaningful and too short to sit in front of a computer monitor and complain and cry. If the game annoys you so much - switch it off, go eat some icecream or drink a beer. Enjoy your life before it is over. UO will survive many of us, promise!

Complaining and crying all the time doesnt make your life brighter. Maybe you need another hobby, such as making quilts, baking, watching ethically correct pornography. Whatever, but stop complaining.

Happy new year!
My personal favorite hobby: Baking Cookies.
 
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