Kills long term

[Ivory Norwind]

I have one kill long term. I know that needs 40 hour of real time game to cancel it.
But how can i know how much time remains? It' a long time that i'm online with that char. There is a command thet let me see how long i have to wait to become "innnocent"?

 

[RichDC]

Nope, also remember that if you are logged on that char for 59minutes and 59seconds then log it doesnt count towards your time.

It only counts for full hours

Stupidly

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Nope, also remember that if you are logged on that char for 59minutes and 59seconds then log it doesnt count towards your time.

It only counts for full hours

Stupidly

Are you completely sure about that? I never noticed this...but then again I usually don't pay attention to such things.

 

[RichDC]

No i believe now its in 15minute chunks, depending on how up to date

http://www.uoguide.com/Murder_Counts

Is

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

No i believe now its in 15minute chunks, depending on how up to date

http://www.uoguide.com/Murder_Counts

Is

I think that depends on how up to date the actual information they get is, also never noticed this "If you acquire 5 or more long-term murder counts you show as Red to the players around you, and are freely attackable in Felucca. You are also barred from all other Facets save for a single trip to Ilshenar per month, where you will be treated as any other player (blue) for the duration of your stay but unable to harm anyone beside yourself." you can go to ilshenar?

 

[RichDC]

Nope that WELL out of date!

so maybe all the other info is, i was always under the impression it was done in hours but not sure now. I still dont take the risk

 

[Kellgory]

The only estimate on time remaining is to remember that it takes 8 hours to burn off a short term count, so if it says 1 long and 0 short then you know you have 32 hours or less to burn off the long term count. If you have more than one count then this becomes fuzzier.

 

[RichDC]

Im 99% sure of this, the timers are seperate. You dont begin to lose a long term until all short terms are gone.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Im 99% sure of this, the timers are seperate. You dont begin to lose a long term until all short terms are gone.

This one I know is wrong, if you get 5 long terms in a row would mean you have 5 short terms, once you reach 0 short terms you will be at 4 long terms.

 

[RichDC]

This one I know is wrong, if you get 5 long terms in a row would mean you have 5 short terms, once you reach 0 short terms you will be at 4 long terms.

Trust me thats not true

I just finished burning of 15shorts and 17longs. By the time the 15 where gone i had 17longs.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Not really an issue of trust...It is just that I have to burn count very often between me and my wife sometimes it gets out of hand, the game of course is glitchy so it could just be you got stuck in some kind of freak cycle =p, cuase every time I have burned counts I know if I'm at 5 short and 5 long by the time I hit 0 short I will be blue.

 

[RichDC]

This isnt the first time ive done this

Just the most recent, Every time i go red its through short term counts. Everytime i burn counts ive had to burn the shorts first.

One char i had just started working new skill on a while back was at 14shorts and 23longs, i checked yesterday and hes at 4shorts and 23longs.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

well I can not speak on your experiences but I know it use to work that way, and I know if I have to burn 5 and 5 I am always blue by the time I am at 0, if it is you or I who is out of luck or in luck with this situation I am not sure.

 

[Omnius]

I've pvped since before the count system was introduced. Cloak you are plainly wrong.

Short term counts burn first AND THEN ONCE ALL ARE GONE, you begin to burn longs. I've burned counts off chars hundreds of times over the years. Currently the majority of my chars on several shards on red. I'm quite certain I'm correct.


Also, this is the wrong forum for this question.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

It is impossible to be wrong about ones own situation, 38 Mins ago I just hit 0/4, I did not discount the legitimacy of his claim as I said if it is I who is lucky with such thing, or if it is he who is unlucky I do not know, now I do as it would seem I am lucky.


I know with out a doubt the system use to work like that, as I have been pvping since the start of this game. I only stated that it does in fact do this for me, I never say anyone else claim is not legitimate I only state what I experienced unless I know there is information to state other wise.

As for the wrong forum, I thought that at first, but then what forum would you have them post in?

 

[Diomedes Artega]

It is impossible to be wrong about ones own situation, 38 Mins ago I just hit 0/4, I did not discount the legitimacy of his claim as I said if it is I who is lucky with such thing, or if it is he who is unlucky I do not know, now I do as it would seem I am lucky.


I know with out a doubt the system use to work like that, as I have been pvping since the start of this game. I only stated that it does in fact do this for me, I never say anyone else claim is not legitimate I only state what I experienced unless I know there is information to state other wise.

As for the wrong forum, I thought that at first, but then what forum would you have them post in?

Players Corner is a good start. Factions would be...Factions related.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Well players corner would work for me. I just thought factions = pvp no matter how you really look at it, so I didn't bother recommending posting anywhere else it seemed relevant to this forum.

 

[Diomedes Artega]

Well players corner would work for me. I just thought factions = pvp no matter how you really look at it, so I didn't bother recommending posting anywhere else it seemed relevant to this forum.

Well if the OP had been discussing about PK's and relating it to factions, I could see the link. Nothing about factions was discussed though...so...yeah. I don't PvP with factions but I would assume you're correct. I've fought many faction members (some who were the best PvP'ers I've faced over the years), and they didn't seem to care that I was non-faction.

 

[Podolak]

Well if the OP had been discussing about PK's and relating it to factions, I could see the link. Nothing about factions was discussed though...so...yeah. I don't PvP with factions but I would assume you're correct. I've fought many faction members (some who were the best PvP'ers I've faced over the years), and they didn't seem to care that I was non-faction.

I respect RichDC's advice, he has given great tips in the past.

However, I have had reds on and off since 1999. It has always worked for me that the longs burn off at the same time the shorts do. So, after five shorts burn off a long goes with it (as long as I didn't kill anyone new during that time). It is 40 hours for a long, the timer starts with shorts there or not. A few months ago my necro mage was 33 long and 31 short. I am pretty sure I got the last short and long together so the timer was starting fresh. After 40 hours I was at 32 long and 26 short. Another 40 hours and I was at 31 long and 21 short. Again, another 40 hours and 30 long and 16 short. So on and so forth.

FYI, I am down to 9 longs (0 shorts of course) Go me!

 

[Omnius]

unless some change was made the people saying they burn at the same time are very very wrong. I've got virtually thousands of murder counts across many characters and shards. my longs never begin until my shorts are all gone. and I run a timer for measuring it so I don't waste time.

 

[Podolak]

unless some change was made the people saying they burn at the same time are very very wrong. I've got virtually thousands of murder counts across many characters and shards. my longs never begin until my shorts are all gone. and I run a timer for measuring it so I don't waste time.

I could say the same thing about those touting the "no longs burn until the shorts are gone line".

I guess there is a game glitch where some characters burn them off when their shorts are gone and other characters burn them off at the same time as their shorts.

I literally JUST did this and my longs burned off with my shorts (it just took 5 shorts per one long of course but you get the idea).

Even UOGuide supports the "Longs burn off while you still have shorts" theory.

http://www.uoguide.com/Murderer

Today, short term counts are useful for figuring out how much time is left before you work off your next long term (5 short terms = 1 long term).

Of course I am assuming that you didn't kill anyone while working off those 5 shorts. If you work off 4 shorts and kill someone before hitting the 40 hours for the long you'll gain another long and reset the long timer.

 

[InspectorGadget]

I feel Hard done by!

How come my chars always have to wait for the shorts to go first?

Can a dev please clarify??


I doubt it

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

I am going to make a lot of assumptions here so don't drown me after I am done.

It could be dependent on when the char was made, as perhaps the code change did not effect chars made before x date and what not. well I guess its not a lot of assumptions but I thought I had more in mind. Either way I know the count system use to make you wait out the shorts first (of course you use to be able to get shorts with out getting longs). I also know that a multitude of my chars and my wife's and friends all lose counts in a way that if they were to get 5/5 they would be at 0/4 by the time the shorts are done. I do not know why it does this for some and not others I can only say that is how it does it on my accounts.

 

[InspectorGadget]

Thats quite possible, my account is 5months old so maybe that is it.

Older accounts get another benefit!

 

[SevenFaith]

THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION-

Shorts and Longs burn at the same time. Short term murder counts take 8 hours per, long term takes 40 hours per. Hence the "5 shorts for 1 long" term.

Everything else anyone else suggests is EXTREMELY FALSE.

-THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION

 

[Diomedes Artega]

I respect RichDC's advice, he has given great tips in the past.

However, I have had reds on and off since 1999. It has always worked for me that the longs burn off at the same time the shorts do. So, after five shorts burn off a long goes with it (as long as I didn't kill anyone new during that time). It is 40 hours for a long, the timer starts with shorts there or not. A few months ago my necro mage was 33 long and 31 short. I am pretty sure I got the last short and long together so the timer was starting fresh. After 40 hours I was at 32 long and 26 short. Another 40 hours and I was at 31 long and 21 short. Again, another 40 hours and 30 long and 16 short. So on and so forth.

FYI, I am down to 9 longs (0 shorts of course) Go me!

I don't see how this was relevant to what I posted. This had to do with where the topic should have been posted in the first place. I like killing murderers. I don't play one. Reread who I responded to. Nothing to do with RichDC. I don't even know the man but still respect the opinion as you do.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Diaomedes I think he was responding to Rich saying he is wrong, because the counts don' work the way Rich was saying. That's more speculation tho. I meant to put that I think he just quoted you instead of him.

 

[RichDC]

THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION-

Shorts and Longs burn at the same time. Short term murder counts take 8 hours per, long term takes 40 hours per. Hence the "5 shorts for 1 long" term.

Everything else anyone else suggests is EXTREMELY FALSE.

-THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION

It would be the end if it worked that way for everyone.

It DEFINATLY doesnt work that way on my chars. As i said previously, i have just taken a char down fro 15+ short terms, by the time they had gone i lost...0 longs.

 

[LordNoximos]

It would be the end if it worked that way for everyone.

It DEFINATLY doesnt work that way on my chars. As i said previously, i have just taken a char down fro 15+ short terms, by the time they had gone i lost...0 longs.

You're doing something wrong, or you have a problem with numbers, they burn on the same timer.

 

[RichDC]

I dont see what you can do wrong sitting at yew gate dead lol

The numbers i gave are correct...that is FACT.

Whether it works the same or is a bug due to account age who knows...as you will notice im not the only one to experience this.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

We are still having this argument? can't everyone just agree it is possible that some people are bugged or there is something wrong with the code in general? This is UO and we know the code is not ....well perfect...to say the least.

 

[Podolak]

I don't see how this was relevant to what I posted. This had to do with where the topic should have been posted in the first place. I like killing murderers. I don't play one. Reread who I responded to. Nothing to do with RichDC. I don't even know the man but still respect the opinion as you do.

Take it easy Diomoedes, Cloak and Dagger guessed correctly, my post had nothing to do with yours, I just happened to hit quote on your reply not Rich's. For that I apologize. This time I did quote your post intentionally though.