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It cost 4770 gold to buy 30 bandages in Doom

Shelleybean

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!
 
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K'torr

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With all the Gold that is usually just littering the ground, that shouldn't be a problem.
 
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RenaLynne

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Yea...i just take all the gold off the corpses that everyone leaves if I run out. Take a bug with you, put ethy in pack and you wont need to buy anything.
 
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jelinidas

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!
Whats yer point? Gold is everywhere in Doom. Take a sec to loot it. Mummys carry aids for free.
 
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galefan2004

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!

Simple solution is to just not die in the first place. You are on Atlantic where there are actual players and people probably still do Doom. If we can figure out how to do Doom with 5 people and almost none of them die, I am pretty sure you can figure out how to stay alive with twenty people there.
 
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Lord Drakelord

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Or carry like 600 aids, broke down in groups of 100 in main pack.
 

Flutter

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!

Simple solution is to just not die in the first place. You are on Atlantic where there are actual players and people probably still do Doom. If we can figure out how to do Doom with 5 people and almost none of them die, I am pretty sure you can figure out how to stay alive with twenty people there.
LOL
She's not complaining about dying she's complaining about the cost of bandages. Maybe she's running a template that has the healing skill.
 
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galefan2004

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LOL
She's not complaining about dying she's complaining about the cost of bandages. Maybe she's running a template that has the healing skill.
You don't lose bandages unless you die. If you didn't bring enough to last you for your stay that is your fault. If you die and lose them that is also your fault.

I'm aware of the healing skill. However, I am also aware that the vendor in Doom is there for people that come unprepared or can't stay alive in Doom. If you come prepared and don't die then you don't have to use the vendor so there is no issue.
 

Flutter

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You don't lose bandages unless you die. If you didn't bring enough to last you for your stay that is your fault. If you die and lose them that is also your fault.

I'm aware of the healing skill. However, I am also aware that the vendor in Doom is there for people that come unprepared or can't stay alive in Doom. If you come prepared and don't die then you don't have to use the vendor so there is no issue.
Spoken by someone who's never stayed longer than he'd intended in Doom.
 

Omnius

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LoL. It sounds like i should sell bandages in doom on atlantic then.
 

MalagAste

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Gee ...... I don't lose my bandages..... I um... Use them...... that's a unique concept I guess. I too am appauled by the prices of bandages, arrows and bolts in Doom.... But I make do.... spend much of my time looting gold leaves a lot less time to earn an arty..... suppose one should go down there with a mage in a full 70s' suit with 100%lmc and I wouldn't have to worry about bandages or anything cause I wouldn't need a thing..... So I am guessing that if your an archer or a dexer you may as well spend 3x the time in doom than mages cause your gonna have to spend more time scrounging up enough gold to sustain yourself down there..... archers get a bigger bumm wrap as I have to replenish arrows and bolts as well... but I wasn't the one complaining.... just as irritated with the whole system though... but I haven't been complaining.


Please click the egg/hatchling and help my dragons grow.
 

Dermott of LS

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Probably, but not worth the effort since they changed the sellback system, plus at that level, it'd take a LOT of bandages to bring the costs down.
 

Theo_GL

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!
Yeah, the devs tried to fix an exploit and killed doom. Oops. Don't worry, but 2010 they will fix what they broke - if they still have a job.
 

JC the Builder

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Well it doesn't matter, you are not supposed to leave your character there indefinitely. Either come back or have a friend bring you bandages. The healer and shopkeeper in Doom are not there to give you fair prices.
 

Theo_GL

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Isn't it possible to sell bandages back to Nix?
Yes you can, for 3gp each.

They changed the system to fix an exploit and completely borked it. Go figgure. Our dev team. *insert sarcastic cheer here*

Thats why it keeps spiraling out of control. There is NO incentive to sell any bandy's back.
 

Beerman72

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!
HEH...I hear ya. From a roleplaying aspect though things are working as planned. Doom isnt there for your pleasure....its there for your pain!!! Hence an extortionist healer and shopkeep.

Also, keep in mind that people werent meant to camp it for weeks on end. However to help keep yourself down there long, I suggest coming down with a beetle chok full-o-goodies. While farming the rooms take all the gold left behind and you should be able to keep your stockpile going for at least a little while!

btw...whats arrows running down there now? you got me curious!
 

Beerman72

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Yes you can, for 3gp each.

They changed the system to fix an exploit and completely borked it. Go figgure. Our dev team. *insert sarcastic cheer here*

Thats why it keeps spiraling out of control. There is NO incentive to sell any bandy's back.

Yeah...it would have been nice to see things remain the way they were....at least for Doom that is. Selling items back was one of the only ways I could keep the stockpile of expensive arrows going. Again though, I can see the flip side of the coin here. We were not meant to live down there forever!

:gee:
 

Dermott of LS

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I believe that it's 500 of an item to lower the price 1gp, so all it will take is 76,500 bandages or so to bring the price back to normal.
 

Basara

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Actually, it's selling 1000 to bring it down 1 GP - and you can only sell 500 at a time...
 

Beerman72

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Actually, it's selling 1000 to bring it down 1 GP - and you can only sell 500 at a time...

Eww!

*loads up beetle and heads to doom*

"BANDIES FOR SALE!!! GET YOUR ARROWS HERE!!!"

this does leave the door open to entrepeneurs! :)
 
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PixelPusher

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Yes you can, for 3gp each.

They changed the system to fix an exploit and completely borked it. Go figgure. Our dev team. *insert sarcastic cheer here*

Thats why it keeps spiraling out of control. There is NO incentive to sell any bandy's back.
5gp sell back on chessie. Found that out the other day when I tried to sell a bug full of bandies to Nix to make some gold and bring the price down. Didn't know until then that they had changed the system... :(

Almost 2 years out leave you out of alot of loops... :lol:
 

Redxpanda

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With the changes to the drop system, everyone seems to have learned not to do business in doom. Always bring way more than you need and when you run out of stuff it means its time for you to leave.
 

Viper09

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Devs, please set permanent prices for the wares that Nix sells in Doom. On Atlantic bandages are priced at 159 gold each!
Doom is a dungeon that is suppose to be challenging. Why do you think that it cost 5k to get resed down there? The NPC's there know that it is a dangerous and deadly place that many try to conquer, thus they are there to profit from us adventurers. Its called role playing, kinda got to get the role playing mind-set to understand little things like this. The vendors are there to help us, but at the same time remind us that the particular location is not a place that is friendly and make profit from those who dare try to defeat the place.
 

Aibal

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Gee ...... I don't lose my bandages..... I um... Use them...... that's a unique concept I guess. I too am appauled by the prices of bandages, arrows and bolts in Doom.... But I make do.... spend much of my time looting gold leaves a lot less time to earn an arty..... suppose one should go down there with a mage in a full 70s' suit with 100%lmc and I wouldn't have to worry about bandages or anything cause I wouldn't need a thing..... So I am guessing that if your an archer or a dexer you may as well spend 3x the time in doom than mages cause your gonna have to spend more time scrounging up enough gold to sustain yourself down there..... archers get a bigger bumm wrap as I have to replenish arrows and bolts as well... but I wasn't the one complaining.... just as irritated with the whole system though... but I haven't been complaining.

Exactly. We did a guild hunt there on Friday. I went through 1k each of arrows and bolts, so I had to buy 500 more of each from Nix...for a total cost of 113K gold. That is insanely ridiculous. Like Mal, I'm not complaining per se, as the choice was mine, but as an archer (with healing lol), it gets mighty expensive for us down there. I realized why they changed things slightly, but they could reset those prices every few hours, or at least daily, to avoid this.
 
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Lord Kynd

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Gee ...... I don't lose my bandages..... I um... Use them...... that's a unique concept I guess. I too am appauled by the prices of bandages, arrows and bolts in Doom.... But I make do.... spend much of my time looting gold leaves a lot less time to earn an arty..... suppose one should go down there with a mage in a full 70s' suit with 100%lmc and I wouldn't have to worry about bandages or anything cause I wouldn't need a thing..... So I am guessing that if your an archer or a dexer you may as well spend 3x the time in doom than mages cause your gonna have to spend more time scrounging up enough gold to sustain yourself down there..... archers get a bigger bumm wrap as I have to replenish arrows and bolts as well... but I wasn't the one complaining.... just as irritated with the whole system though... but I haven't been complaining.


Please click the egg/hatchling and help my dragons grow.

i'd complain but you said it pretty much exactly the way i would.
Nix needs fix'd 11k for 60 bolt's is hardly even lootable per round. and 60 arrows isn't going to do much.
 
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Lord Kynd

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Eww!

*loads up beetle and heads to doom*

"BANDIES FOR SALE!!! GET YOUR ARROWS HERE!!!"

this does leave the door open to entrepeneurs! :)

and how would you collect the gold from the people ?
your only going to be able to hold so much gold, gold weighs more than bandies/arrows..

i agree with above poster tho, it should be reset every couple hours at the least.
 

Shelleybean

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For all of you naysayers, please post your Doom character and your shard. I want to make sure I don't heal or rez you with my expensive bandages. Thanks!
 
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Silence_Fair

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Exactly. We did a guild hunt there on Friday. I went through 1k each of arrows and bolts, so I had to buy 500 more of each from Nix...for a total cost of 113K gold. That is insanely ridiculous. Like Mal, I'm not complaining per se, as the choice was mine, but as an archer (with healing lol), it gets mighty expensive for us down there. I realized why they changed things slightly, but they could reset those prices every few hours, or at least daily, to avoid this.
Too bad they don't have a Talisman of Arrow/bolt summoning. . that would work. .
 
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Fayled Dhreams

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OOOOH! a twofer!
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Missing patch note + explanation:February 15, 2008

Some folks have noticed a change that didn't show up in the patch notes - the omission was intentional, as it was a fix for a particularly nasty exploit. However, it does have some gameplay impact, so we'll explain it here. The note itself:

- Commodity item prices changed so that the sell price is never greater than the base price, and the buy price never drops below the base price

What this means is that vendors now have a "base price" for commodities - they won't sell those items for less than that base, nor will they buy the items from players for more. Prices will still fluctuate depending on how many of those commodities have recently been bought or sold, but players won't be able to make a profit by finding a vendor with a low sell price on, for example, arrows and selling them to a vendor with a high buy price.

We are aware that this impacts the Doom vendor and healer rather more than the others, and we'll be looking into tweaking them for the next publish.
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time to nudge Jeremy for some tweaking ....
BTW ... tweak to what? once a day ...average price from "normal" outta doom vendors?
 
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Thrand Graywolf

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Rather like the bag of sending change...people told them when they did this that it wouldn't really fix much of anything and would instead break areas. For the bags, it was Ilshenar dungeons, for the price changes it was Doom.

They don't want to listen.

I used to spend days at a time in Doom...haven't been back since they put this in. Gold in Doom is useless, yeah, and I would grab more than enough to replenish arrows and bandages before the change when it was usually still mildly expensive. But this is just silly.
 
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