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Epic of Legends
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What do you guys think? It's been awhile since gargoyles were implemented and well, not too many people use them. Feel free to post race ideas, benefits, special abilities, equipment, etc.
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Is it time for a new race?
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clarkifer
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No!
No. Please... just no. lol
-Grimm
-Grimm
Meer/Juka.
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Epic of Legends
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Lol, what's wrong with doing a small bit of art?
But, I understand.. It would be nice to fix what we have before we go into more, although I'm STARTING to get a little bit bored with the content.
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Prince Caspian
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In my opinion, we have two too many.
Ultima was always about humans, not about fey races. The gargoyles do have a very small part of the history, but ELVES??? They were never a part of the Ultima mythology.
Of course I know, by the UO story, we are dealing with parallel dimensions that began from the end of the Akalabeth climax.... so Ultimas II-IX never happened.... although they are constantly referenced in the Ultima Online mythology....
Furthermore, Ultima Online had much broader concepts of "class;" there were the four broad archetypes (Fighter, Ranger, Mage, Bard), and now we boast over ten distinct classes.
Now you young'uns keep it down, time for me to watch mah stories and listen to Glen Miller on the Victrola.
Ultima was always about humans, not about fey races. The gargoyles do have a very small part of the history, but ELVES??? They were never a part of the Ultima mythology.
Of course I know, by the UO story, we are dealing with parallel dimensions that began from the end of the Akalabeth climax.... so Ultimas II-IX never happened.... although they are constantly referenced in the Ultima Online mythology....
Furthermore, Ultima Online had much broader concepts of "class;" there were the four broad archetypes (Fighter, Ranger, Mage, Bard), and now we boast over ten distinct classes.
Now you young'uns keep it down, time for me to watch mah stories and listen to Glen Miller on the Victrola.
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Prince Caspian
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Ah, Steam Punk. What happens when goths discover sepia tones.
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Prince Caspian
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Caspian to the curb for the second time this week. You're right.
Um, but they didn't ever play a key role in the Ultima series, if I can salvage something from this...
I wasn't an early Ultima game player. I didnt even get into the series until Renassance. After that I got into the the lore of the game so I can only speak of what I have read. But it does appear that elves were a playable race up until Ultima III.
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pgib
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Lizardmen!!!
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Prince Caspian
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I just realized that both times my butt got burned this week was regarding knowledge of the old school Ultima games.
Maybe I need to pop up DOSBox and do some remedial revisit to Britannia. This old man's memory is apparently failing him. :O
Maybe I need to pop up DOSBox and do some remedial revisit to Britannia. This old man's memory is apparently failing him. :O
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olduofan
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if any more are added I feel it should be orcs they should have been the first added if any at all.
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Woodsman
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Noooo, they are an abomination. That reminds me of Ilshenar and how it sounded like it was intended to be a gathering place between shards..
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Woodsman
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I bet you have more than one room in your schools, don't you?
I concur here. I am totally fine with the race choices we have available at the moment.
If there were to be a new race, I would recommend another race of humans. Maybe the inhabitants of Serpent Isle or something. No more fantasy races; Gargoyles made some sense, but once the game world was refined a bit, even elves didn't fit into the lexicon of this game.
Yes, I know they were in Ultima 1-3 but 4 is where it all began for real Ultima History. That's where RG really sat down and thought things out. Heck there was a rocket to the moon in U2! We don't want that do we?
I do like the steampunk angle. Some guns might make things interesting!
If everyone really, truely wants a new race, then I want the Emps from U7!
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Yes, I know they were in Ultima 1-3 but 4 is where it all began for real Ultima History. That's where RG really sat down and thought things out. Heck there was a rocket to the moon in U2! We don't want that do we?
I do like the steampunk angle. Some guns might make things interesting!
If everyone really, truely wants a new race, then I want the Emps from U7!
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I agree. If there was to be another race,it should be within specific Ultima/UO lore.
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Woodsman
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Orcs, lizardmen, and ratmen.
While unique I am perplexed they aren't reeeeaaaalllllyyyy an Ultima thing. I don't have an opinion on them anymore I guess.
New storyline:
The Evil Orc Lord, Vraadush, Sweeps through Royal City with his massive horde, killing that sorry race of wannabe butterflies. The gargoyle queen is crucified upside down on a saltire (St. Andrews Cross) and her corpse is left rotting along the road to the entrance to the city from the moongate.
The queen's magic now broken, Tel Mur facet becomes over run with murderers, thieves, and of course, Orcs!
-Or we could do Cove if you guys are really attached to Royal City...
The Evil Orc Lord, Vraadush, Sweeps through Royal City with his massive horde, killing that sorry race of wannabe butterflies. The gargoyle queen is crucified upside down on a saltire (St. Andrews Cross) and her corpse is left rotting along the road to the entrance to the city from the moongate.
The queen's magic now broken, Tel Mur facet becomes over run with murderers, thieves, and of course, Orcs!
-Or we could do Cove if you guys are really attached to Royal City...
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pgib
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I think murderer and thieves should stay in Rottenland (aka felucca), where they belong.
I miss a good old invasion though but more as an event than a reason for a new race.
Doom creatures on a rampage in Luna...
I miss a good old invasion though but more as an event than a reason for a new race.
Doom creatures on a rampage in Luna...
How about Luna...?
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Prince Caspian
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Now THAT would be fun.
*Having happy visions of bank-sitters fleeing from Flesh Renderers*
no more rings and poles,wee needs goblin race !!
Ozog
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Ozog
Pitmuck
I'm down for luna being a dirty, nasty orc city.
Caspian said we boast 10 distinct classes. I wanted to hear which ones these are. Is 'Sampire' one of them? Lol! What about Necro/Archer?
How bout 'Script Miner'? heheh
'Speed Hacker'?
How bout 'Script Miner'? heheh
'Speed Hacker'?
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Prince Caspian
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- Mage
- Thief
- Ninja
- Samurai
- Necromancer
- Paladin
- Archer
- Fencer/Swordsman/etc (all melee fighter classes)
- Bard
- Tamer
I could go on.... and on....
Ultima online has little to do with the original ultima series... and you purists, cant just say... Oh wait, the first 3 ultimas don't count...
The Orc race has been in the RP realm since early on, they even have masks in game that make it possible. So it would be easy to add, with no real new art needed. They could add a few race specific artifacts, perhaps a new orc stronghold, and some new craftables.
Ultima online should continue to add new things, and grow and evolve... There were players that cried and screamed about AOS and SE, but now play nothing but sampires. Hated SA, but have all imbued gear.
Im down for whatever the developers can come up with.
The Orc race has been in the RP realm since early on, they even have masks in game that make it possible. So it would be easy to add, with no real new art needed. They could add a few race specific artifacts, perhaps a new orc stronghold, and some new craftables.
Ultima online should continue to add new things, and grow and evolve... There were players that cried and screamed about AOS and SE, but now play nothing but sampires. Hated SA, but have all imbued gear.
Im down for whatever the developers can come up with.
A 1 mile oval short track for wing sprint race cars would be fun....oh oh, you mean a new player race... dwarves would be cool
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Prince Caspian
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At that point let's just call the realm Greyhawk and get it over with.
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Evlar
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You'll probably find that most of those who cried and screamed about AoS and SE left.
Then the ones that hated SA... they left too.
What's there to entice people back to the game they loved? More crap new stuff, poorly implemented and never finished, only to be smudged over with more new crap, that'll also be poorly implemented and never finished?
Nahh... but thanks for offering.
Consolidate, iron out the wrinkles and stick with one direction.
Fix the character classes, the skills... and the rest... that exists first.
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Capn Kranky
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Half-Elves - Character creation choose between higher carry cap of human and the rare gem/ore/wood detection or Elvish lower carry cap but with the nightsight, resist increase. Either choice, the use of Archery skill adds some level of HCI and DI (think Legolas prowess in LoTR:Return of the King) based on level of skill with best possible at GM. Over 100 increases skill ability but not HCI/DI.
I dunno ... just rummaging around.
I dunno ... just rummaging around.
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The EC allows you to be one of several different races including Meer and Juka as well as character ideas such as pirate, savage, and undead. It's only a cosmetic addition to the paperdoll and character model, but IMO that works out well because it doesn't lead to the over/under-powered complaints about various races vs others.
The EC allows you to be one of several different races including Meer and Juka as well as character ideas such as pirate, savage, and undead. It's only a cosmetic addition to the paperdoll and character model, but IMO that works out well because it doesn't lead to the over/under-powered complaints about various races vs others.
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Woodsman
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This.
But I'd say Orcs, lizardmen, and ratmen are doable as long as they are restricted to looking like they look now, can only wear the items you see them wearing now (if at all), and as long as they are restricted to the "classes" already present for all three. Let the RPers have fun with it, but don't have some sampire ratmen running around, etc. Stick to what they already are.
Orc faces are in the EC during character selection aren't they?
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Let's see... the EC character type list:
10 Face styles
Anime
Hellian
Juka
Undead
Meer
Elder (old, including "sag")
Orc
Pirate (including eye patch)
Native Papuan (Savage sans paint)
Vampire
Let's see... the EC character type list:
10 Face styles
Anime
Hellian
Juka
Undead
Meer
Elder (old, including "sag")
Orc
Pirate (including eye patch)
Native Papuan (Savage sans paint)
Vampire
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pgib
Guest
I would be more than happy with a kind of deed that permanently alter your look into a lizardman (or something else of course): it is not very good when i pretend to be a lizardman and then i die (a lot) and i look human when ressed, then i have to wait for mana to regenerate, waste it to become a lizard again...
Town, items, racial abilities, background and the rest would be great of course but considering what they did for gargoyles (especially on the lore side, which sounds more or less like "hey, we popped out from the abyss and... well, go figure it") i'm a bit scared to see them at work again.
Town, items, racial abilities, background and the rest would be great of course but considering what they did for gargoyles (especially on the lore side, which sounds more or less like "hey, we popped out from the abyss and... well, go figure it") i'm a bit scared to see them at work again.
uoassist has the option to appear as a different race, just use that.
halloween costumes work too, sadly you have to be dismounted
and then there is that old polymorph spell
the goblin ring,big magick flippers. we have enough stuff to appear differently
which (bottom line) i thnk we are all striving to be.
halloween costumes work too, sadly you have to be dismounted
and then there is that old polymorph spell
the goblin ring,big magick flippers. we have enough stuff to appear differently
which (bottom line) i thnk we are all striving to be.
Bobbits (called Hobbits in Ultima II) are one of the numerous races which peopled the Sosaria of old. Noted for their quiet and contemplative nature, the bobbits were often found in pursuit of scholarly and spiritual aims, frequently shunning physical trades due to their diminutive size.
well we wont be seeing any of those here on stratics
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It makes me wonder... Ultimas I-III were basically done prior to Ultima gaining any sort of official canon. With that being the case, I wonder if Lord British were to do something like reboot the series keeping the core concepts of the first 3 games (defeat Mondain, defeat Minax, defeat Exodus) what would be kept and what would be tossed, what the maps of the world would look like, would the sci-fi elements be retained or would the games be reconfigured to stay within the medieval/Rennesque setting that the later installements (including UO) have been in.
To bring it full circle... would an official Richard Garriott/Lord British produced reboot of Ultima include races such as Bobbits?
It makes me wonder... Ultimas I-III were basically done prior to Ultima gaining any sort of official canon. With that being the case, I wonder if Lord British were to do something like reboot the series keeping the core concepts of the first 3 games (defeat Mondain, defeat Minax, defeat Exodus) what would be kept and what would be tossed, what the maps of the world would look like, would the sci-fi elements be retained or would the games be reconfigured to stay within the medieval/Rennesque setting that the later installements (including UO) have been in.
To bring it full circle... would an official Richard Garriott/Lord British produced reboot of Ultima include races such as Bobbits?
Quote of the year for me.
Answer to OP: Yes. Except for the fact that we would then have to support it with content. That is no in the UO future. Plus it would make us WoW according to a large group of people that don't like change.
So no. Unless you are bored with UO then yes.
Agreed.
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Epic of Legends
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Yes those work. However, many of us don't just like the LOOKS of being something different, but rather the benefits. i.e. Night sight on elves, or jack of all trades in humans, or flying in gargoyles.