Is it possible to have a PreAoS test shard?

[atlanticScorpion]

I just posted this in ask the devs. but it has to be reviewed before it is posted. So I thought I might run it through here also. Here's the post.

I think it would be nice to play a test shard of Pre malas. When things were a little simpler. When armour and weps didn't have all these properties on them.
just might, power, vanqs, silver. When you could go toe to toe with your pvp opponent it an last several minutes instead of seconds. When you had to concore all the dungeons to lvl up. When 100k gold was alot. When Grand Master in any one skill was quite the accomplishment. Is this possible? I would like to go visit this place just for awhile.

 

[Kayne]

I think this is basically classic shard and I think it was decided it just wouldnt be possible to achieve.

 

[atlanticScorpion]

Not even a test shard. I never get what i want for Xmas

 

[Tanivar]

I think this is basically classic shard and I think it was decided it just wouldnt be possible to achieve.

The Classic Shard was intended to be entirely pre=tram PvP & PKing. The scene that had paying customers leaving in droves to escape the PKers.

A pre-AOS shard would have Trammel to provide a PK free area and not have all the garbage brought in from the Diablo games.

A pre-AOS shard would be fairly easy to do. Just remove the Resist numbers & bonus numbers from the combat formulas and leave everything else as it is. It would change the challenge every monster gave every hunters template and make the Pre-AOS shard a whole new world to learn hunting-wise. The uber gear folks who so cry for more challenge would certainly get it I suspect.

 

[Lord Frodo]

The Classic Shard was intended to be entirely pre=tram PvP & PKing. The scene that had paying customers leaving in droves to escape the PKers.

That is what you and others thought "Classic Shard" ment. Other picks were LBR, pre Pub 16 and AoS. It all depends on at which age in UO that you started playing. To say there is only one classic is like saying there is only one classic car age, there are many.

 

[Warpig Inc]

As was the molds for the model T Ford, they had been tossed long ago. The time and effort to remake them will not justify the cost for a small market. It is more then flipping a switch to change things back. The switch has been changed and then the housing for the switch changed to be able to use another new switch. Digging up the old switch plus housing for it and cutting a new hole in the wall to put it back in use is well useless. Better off using the time and effort in making something with a Star Wars tag on it.

And what limb would you like to bet all the current PVP issues wont be their also as a 3rd nature exploit. There is a reason there is a long 2d drumline playing the EC sucks tune. They can't never lose using EC.

 

[Tanivar]

That is what you and others thought "Classic Shard" ment. Other picks were LBR, pre Pub 16 and AoS. It all depends on at which age in UO that you started playing. To say there is only one classic is like saying there is only one classic car age, there are many.

I was involved in that two thread thousand plus post discussion on getting a classic shard. The vast majority considered a 'Classic Shard' to be pre- UO:Ren. Those were the PKfest years.

I suspect if so many people hadn't insisted that it had to be just exactly my way or I won't play it because otherwise it's not a true 'Classic Shard', it might have happened.

If a 'Classic Shard' had been made, it would have made the chances of getting the Pre-AOS shard I would so love to have a much easier thing to get.

Hopefully one day it sinks in at EA that they would have many more customers and a lot nicer bottom line if they give the customers what the customers enjoy, instead of the intestinal gas they have been giving us.

The UO-clones out there must love EA for all the players they get. Must be able to make good money from running ads on the more crowed sites.

 

[Lord Frodo]

As was the molds for the model T Ford, they had been tossed long ago.

But with the new 3D imaging they are scaning older cars and making new molds for them all the time.

You may now buy a 1964-1/2, ’65 and ’66 Mustang Ford launches.

 

[Sevin0oo0]

isn't that the same as a private shard? just make one yourself

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

That is what you and others thought "Classic Shard" ment. Other picks were LBR, pre Pub 16 and AoS. It all depends on at which age in UO that you started playing. To say there is only one classic is like saying there is only one classic car age, there are many.

One of the most popular advocates for a custom rules shard, which is the only accurate term for this stuff, once said that anything other than pre-Trammel would be "****."

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

I heard that there will be a custom rules shard coming in with the new Chinese 3d client, but this won't be made public until the other shards start shutting down one by one due to lack of interest in the game. Currently the most-populated shards are Siege and Mugen, and the most-popular facet on every shard is Fel.

I heard this on the Internet.

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

A post by Draconi, which appears to have been conveniently deleted, pointed out why such a thing can't really exist.

The old code is for the most part gone, and the new custom shard rules, whatever they were, would have to be newly coded using the new code. He said this as someone who obviously supported the concept and considered it surely possible to do if you were willing and able to from scratch code in the new custom rules set.

The most-overlooked aspect of what Draconi said, and the reason it's a damn shame his post appears to be gone, was that it destroyed one of the most-important custom shard myths, which is that all they would have to do is "strike the new stuff."

Granted, folks didn't believe him, or thought it would still be a capital idea to write a custom shard rules set even if you had to write it from scratch.

Really it's Cal's fault that the custom rules shard thing survives. On a substantive level it was dead before it was born. It lives on as a half-deranged ghost to torment future producers.

-Galen's player

 

[Warpig Inc]

As was the molds for the model T Ford, they had been tossed long ago.

But with the new 3D imaging they are scaning older cars and making new molds for them all the time.

You may now buy a 1964-1/2, ’65 and ’66 Mustang Ford launches.

I sold my 2 beetles to buy a 65 Stang convertible before I could drive. As for the 65 Mustang and the Model T. The 60 years newer tech mustang has a higher market due to the performance useage on modern roadways over the Model T. It would drive people nuts to have to take 3 extra minutes to drive 10 miles after hand crank starting the Model T. With electronics tech 5 years can label something an antique. The CC and Model T have in common a need for their own nich to be in todays world and a mindset of their users to change. And untill the cheats that put a Mustang motor in a Model T and think they deserve to win a Model T only race go. Memory Lane will remain a memory.

 

[Xalan Dementia]

closest they could do is make a TC that only had npc sold armor and gm crafted armor/weaps. Only iron ingots, normal boards, normal leather, no runics. Take termur/tokuno/malas off the moon-gates, change the monster loot code so the only mods on items would be the new versions of the old magic item names (indestructible=durability boost, Accurate=hci, vanq = di, etc etc)
Basically it would be time and effort wasted for a shard that would boom for about a month. Lets have the devs use their limited resources and time fixing the real shards bugs and not wasted on a temporary shard

 

[Raptor85]

Yeah, the origional code is gone, but that doesn't mean they couldn't take 2 months and strip the aos code from the current codebase, and recode the stats for the very few items that existed back then to work like the old ones in the new system (and heck, magic and vanq weapons still exist, so that item system is still intact somewhere deep within the codebase, so it's really just a matter of tweaking the armor and removing all aos stuff)

If the freeshards can in 3 months emulatie a pre-aos shard from the ground up I think the UO devs would be competent enough to do it having the UO source at their disposal.