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Oh yea, Mr.Tact was awesome with his failed Diminishing Returns system.
I wasn't a MrTact fan. I'll be honest. The one thing I have to admit though is that he cared about the game, his job, and us as players. He tried to include us in his ideas.
So while some people can cry "empty promises" I would rather thank him for including us in his thought process. If the system worked or not was not the issue. The issue was (and still is for most of us) being included in the process.
I know I read that you're the type that would rather not know. That's easily solved by not reading posts made by developers and not participating in threads where developers are participating.

Not that this is an issue any more. I really feel like we fell into some sort of office politics hole where someone was jealous that "they like him better".
 

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*chuckles* I have only ever really been happy once when a UO dev/staffer left. Most of these folks care about the job they do. Some take it to the next level and care about the 'fans'. I generally wish them all well and appreciate the things they bring to our 'world(s)'.
 

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that his refusal to move to Virginia was what sealed his fate.
There was no refusal. No one ever asked him to move. What Grimm said was that they were "moving his position to Virginia". Nowhere does it read "and I decided I didn't want to move". Unless you are talking about back when they moved the whole team, which was a couple of years ago and no longer would have relevance to this present day conversation.
Most artists work remotely. Most art for games is not even done in this country.
Your speculation is so far off Galen, it would just be better if you acted like the rest of the people who don't know and say "sorry to see you go" or whatever, and be done with it.
 

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Apologies... My last statement has maybe been taken out of context.. I totally agree that speculation etc leads to no where good.. But being me I like to show both sides of the coin...
 

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Herein lies the difference Galen. I post my thoughts without caring who agrees or "believes" me. You're tireless posts to try to make my posts something they are not really is a waste of your time.
 

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Galen and Flutter, please take it to PMs. There is a bit of information and speculation and somewhere in there lies the truth. Those that know it, know it. That will have to be enough or discussion will come to a close.

Thanks :)
 

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Galen and Flutter, please take it to PMs. There is a bit of information and speculation and somewhere in there lies the truth. Those that know it, know it. That will have to be enough or discussion will come to a close.

Thanks :)
I'm sorry :(
I will behave.
 

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Bruce "Logrus" Bonnick - Designer
when did Logrus leave?
i dont recall him leaving, but i see his title states that....
 

Promathia

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when did Logrus leave?
i dont recall him leaving, but i see his title states that....
Well by looking, his last post before today was back in Nov 2011. So maybe sometime around then?
 

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I've refrained from posting on this again for a couple of days to gather my thoughts.

Someone posted something to the effect that people who don't interact leave.... which in and of itself is a fair statement. Except-

You look at who interacted with us and how long they were around after they started interacting. None were around really for that long. And the people that are still left are the ones that don't communicate.

No one on the current team interacts with us on a consistent basis. Even the supposed community people- but you look at the other games they support and they are right there. It is down right insulting to see how the other games are supported.

Mesanna, who you would have to search long and hard to find a bigger supporter of her than I am, doesn't provide consistent communication. And her secret thing drives me up the walls. Although, her hints recently were nice. That is something that should be a regular thing.

And Jeff, like the people before him, comes in like a storm and then dies off. You can almost hear the crickets in the silence.

I also do not care for this- people who know know and that is enough type attitude. Having been on both sides of the fence as a player and in upper management in a game company, it's a load of bull crap. There are both good and bad things. The only thing that secrets lend to are conspiracy theories (which all too often prove out to be true) and falsehoods. Jeff claims to be about transparency, which I see no evidence of. Quite the contrary. Though, he appears to be well versed in the art of using the latest corporate catch phrases.

I started this thread because of my growing frustration at the lack of communication/interaction of the UO/EA/Mythic/BioWare/whatever they are now team. And how the members that actually communicate go. Didn't Jeff post something about requiring or making it so that there was weekly communication or some such? I think I posted something to the effect I'll believe it when I see it (or like ask me in 3 months and we'll see).... just like every time before. Someone comes in, makes promises they don't keep.

And in the end, that is what frustrates me the most. (and for those that need it spelled out- the lack of keeping the promise of open communication/interaction)
 
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