Interesting Article About Cheating In Games....The One Time I Wish UO Was More Like WoW

[TimberWolf]

I can't afford any more forum suspensions! Let's not start the whole telephone system here..next thing you know I'll be falsely documented stating you're Dire Wolf mom cheated on your dad with a TimberWolf and secretly named you that due to her promiscuous ways to remind her of that night of lust with you're apparent strong armed TimberWolf Sr. Dad :/


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Hey my mother was not a slut......she was a pancake but then what female dog isnt????

 

[Zuckuss]

Okay guys, that's great. Back to the topic please. =)

 

[cazador]

Okay guys, that's great. Back to the topic please. =)

Wasn't that the topic? Cheating?


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[Nexus]

Third party programs are NOT illegal in UO...... unattended scripting is a violation of the code of conduct. Third party programs are the reason UO still exists for Christ sakes!
For someone with supposedly 30 accounts you really think you would bother to learn the rules.

Using unapproved 3rd party programs is a violation of the UO Terms of Service, everyone needs to remember there are additional rules beyond the games Rules of Conduct that have to be followed.

(d) Official Service. Ultima Online has been designed by Electronic Arts for play only on the Service. The Software is licensed to you for play on the Service only. Electronic Arts does not grant you a license to use the Software for any other purpose. You agree to play Ultima Online only on the Service and not through any other means. You further agree not to create or provide any other means through which Ultima Online may be played by others - for example, through server emulators. You may not reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software, including any proprietary communications protocol used by the Software. You acknowledge that you do not have the right to create, publish, distribute, create derivative works from or use any software programs, utilities, applications, emulators or tools derived from or created for Ultima Online unless specifically authorized in writing by Electronic Arts.

 

[cazador]

Using unapproved 3rd party programs is a violation of the UO Terms of Service, everyone needs to remember there are additional rules beyond the games Rules of Conduct that have to be followed.

I appreciate you looking that up. It isn't the bible though or "insert your own religious beliefs not to be 2015 racist" I may be wrong, usually am..but I'm sure someone out there is better versed in following their pixel dark lady. Didn't she say when asked if 3rd part programs were still illegal, she said the only thing illegal is "unattended" macroing like how back in the day when someone shoved a nickel in the space bar to macro hiding. I don't think she ever truly addressed the question though.

*Corporate Dodge I Presume*


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[TimberWolf]

Using unapproved 3rd party programs is a violation of the UO Terms of Service, everyone needs to remember there are additional rules beyond the games Rules of Conduct that have to be followed.

Wrong......if those rules arent enforced....and they havent been for years they dont exist! Period.....No debate....No BS....they dont care about third party programs as long as you are attended....and that is right out of Bonnie's mouth!

 

[Nexus]

I appreciate you looking that up. It isn't the bible though or "insert your own religious beliefs not to be 2015 racist" I may be wrong, usually am..but I'm sure someone out there is better versed in following their pixel dark lady. Didn't she say when asked if 3rd part programs were still illegal, she said the only thing illegal is "unattended" macroing like how back in the day when someone shoved a nickel in the space bar to macro hiding. I don't think she ever truly addressed the question though.

*Corporate Dodge I Presume*


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Oh I'm sure that was a corporate dodge, but that doesn't mean they can't decide to enforce it at any moment without any warning. I'm the type to usually err on the side of caution, if they say it's a no-no in their documentation, then who am I to argue with it.

 

[cazador]

Oh I'm sure that was a corporate dodge, but that doesn't mean they can't decide to enforce it at any moment without any warning. I'm the type to usually err on the side of caution, if they say it's a no-no in their documentation, then who am I to argue with it.

Agreed but I am 1000% sure they can detect it. One time I logged into to test center and was having an issue seeing the new items. Kryonix was on test and was helping me sort the patch issue. And he kindly said trying turning off "specific program" and try it then. Now I wasn't actually using it for anything I had it open for training Magery honestly, but it proved they actual can see the program. I'm more confused why they don't make them legal, make the owners make them sync to the server and stop them from certain actions. Like looting corpses, farming resources for more than 5 minute intervals, looping things more than 10 times. I'm pretty sure they would agree considering they can now be public and gain donations and all sorts of perks. Or just ban the active users that abuse certain features it has, that aren't just to ease the carpal tunnel UO creates.


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[TimberWolf]

dude you dont have to be able to detect it to know that it causes a particular issue or bug. But regardless is they can or cant they Dont care...they have made it clear by their actions and by their words.
The city I live in still has a law on the books about hitching your horse on a particular street...Hasnt been a horse in this city in near 100 years, just because the rule/law is still on the books doesnt mean they give a crap about it!

 

[Zuckuss]

No, it just means that no one has hitched their horse on that street in a long time. If they did, I'll bet that they would refer to the law.

The best way to stop a crime is to prevent it from happening in the first place. The law is working as intended =)

 

[Captn Norrington]

The city I live in still has a law on the books about hitching your horse on a particular street...Hasnt been a horse in this city in near 100 years, just because the rule/law is still on the books doesnt mean they give a crap about it!

Your right that almost all places have incredibly outdated or just plain dumb laws, however that does not mean they can't uphold those laws. If for some reason you did hitch a horse on that street, and a police officer who for some reason remembered that law saw it, the officer could technically arrest you for it. Only way I see this happening is if you made the officer mad for some reason, but it can still happen.

I had a friend who had the same mindset you do about those old outdated laws, so he started breaking them on purpose in front of police to see what would happen. One day the police got tired of it and actually arrested him. The reason: He put his thumb on his nose and wiggled his fingers at a police officer as he walked by. There is seriously a law in New York prohibiting that. He was arrested for it and then released a few hours later looking absolutely terrified.

Moral of the story: Just because it doesn't happen often doesn't mean it can't happen. If a person breaks rules in UO all the time, one day a dev might get tired of it and decide to enforce the rule on that unlucky person.

 

[Nexus]

Your right that almost all places have incredibly outdated or just plain dumb laws, however that does not mean they can't uphold those laws. If for some reason you did hitch a horse on that street, and a police officer who for some reason remembered that law saw it, the officer could technically arrest you for it. Only way I see this happening is if you made the officer mad for some reason, but it can still happen.

I had a friend who had the same mindset you do about those old outdated laws, so he started breaking them on purpose in front of police to see what would happen. One day the police got tired of it and actually arrested him. The reason: He put his thumb on his nose and wiggled his fingers at a police officer as he walked by. There is seriously a law in New York prohibiting that. He was arrested for it and then released a few hours later looking absolutely terrified.

Moral of the story: Just because it doesn't happen often doesn't mean it can't happen. If a person breaks rules in UO all the time, one day a dev might get tired of it and decide to enforce the rule on that unlucky person.

It's not that serious, it's only a misdemeanor to do that.

The Spokesman-Review - Google News Archive Search

 

[TimberWolf]

...... I give up

 

[Arroth Thaiel]

The Spokesman-Review - Google News Archive Search

Oh goodness. A newspaper from Spokane? Eee ghads.

Spokane has always reminded me of Mos Eisley, but without all the culture and high-falut'n stuff.

 

[drcossack]

I had a friend who had the same mindset you do about those old outdated laws, so he started breaking them on purpose in front of police to see what would happen. One day the police got tired of it and actually arrested him. The reason: He put his thumb on his nose and wiggled his fingers at a police officer as he walked by. There is seriously a law in New York prohibiting that. He was arrested for it and then released a few hours later looking absolutely terrified.

I'm sorry, but this is funny (until it happens to you, right?). If it had happened to me, I'd probably have the same reaction he did.

 

[Victim of Siege]

...... I give up

*has low expectations that TimberWolf is actually giving up*

 

[Longtooths]

Agreed but I am 1000% sure they can detect it. One time I logged into to test center and was having an issue seeing the new items. Kryonix was on test and was helping me sort the patch issue. And he kindly said trying turning off "specific program" and try it then. Now I wasn't actually using it for anything I had it open for training Magery honestly, but it proved they actual can see the program. I'm more confused why they don't make them legal, make the owners make them sync to the server and stop them from certain actions. Like looting corpses, farming resources for more than 5 minute intervals, looping things more than 10 times. I'm pretty sure they would agree considering they can now be public and gain donations and all sorts of perks. Or just ban the active users that abuse certain features it has, that aren't just to ease the carpal tunnel UO creates.


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You would be 1000% wrong. The main program can be detected and it is detected as part of SOP. The numbers of violators are such that they can not enforce it globally. However, there are a few more obvious people that are still today getting punished by GM's.

As for the thumb, nose, police thing....U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ruled that it is constitutionally protected to flip police the bird. Furthermore it is not the basis for a reasonable suspicion of a traffic violation or impending criminal activity. Just suggesting an option to those so inclined.

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