there's plenty of time to sell so I don't have to worry about it.
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Insane Vendor Fees Are Still Killing The Shards
- Thread starter Capt. Lucky
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Not to resurrect a dead thread, but I have been looking around and can't find an answer.
And I will admit I am not the worlds greatest researcher.
But is there, anywhere, a chart, scale, list of percentages, whatever, on the vendor fees? It charges per day, but how much per day? is there currently a break in fees for certain prices? any idea anyone?
And I will admit I am not the worlds greatest researcher.
But is there, anywhere, a chart, scale, list of percentages, whatever, on the vendor fees? It charges per day, but how much per day? is there currently a break in fees for certain prices? any idea anyone?
If I am not mistaken vendor fees are per real day not uo day.
I fear my vendors make more profit than I do, it is crasy
If this are correct, a Magesuit I sell for 160k will cost me 21k in fee if it stay on vendor 3 weeks and that do often happen on Siege. No wonder I do not really get any profit.
First of I have made chars in Legends and I never find anyone on to hunt or do anything, so i am looking to meet new players there!
Now to business.......
How about making the fee´s dependant on how much money you have in total? This vendor system only benefits the very rich. Low end/middle range traders with no much money are losing to the fees.
It was designed when there was 1000s of people, It dont work now with the fall of numbers, only Atl can hold this system for now.
Items that are not worth more than 1M, not to have any vendor fees, just items of 1m and above start to pay vendor fees. This would make selling spells books and small stuff free to have on vendors and helps the new traders and any new player arriving back so he ahs somewhere to buy?
Or all in all no vendor fees, but you have to pay taxes when something sells? so lets say an item sold for 10m, well the tax here is 5% so you pay a 500k in taxes? So all items are taxed depending how much they were sold at.
Now to business.......
How about making the fee´s dependant on how much money you have in total? This vendor system only benefits the very rich. Low end/middle range traders with no much money are losing to the fees.
It was designed when there was 1000s of people, It dont work now with the fall of numbers, only Atl can hold this system for now.
Items that are not worth more than 1M, not to have any vendor fees, just items of 1m and above start to pay vendor fees. This would make selling spells books and small stuff free to have on vendors and helps the new traders and any new player arriving back so he ahs somewhere to buy?
Or all in all no vendor fees, but you have to pay taxes when something sells? so lets say an item sold for 10m, well the tax here is 5% so you pay a 500k in taxes? So all items are taxed depending how much they were sold at.
I say we increase vendor fees to increase the gold sink and lower inflation.
But that's me.
That is still good then? UOGuide had that, but also had it noted that it was out of date and it changed with Pub 80. So that formula still stands then???
Exactly. And this is why on smaller shards you can't find stuff, and see a lot of empty vendors all over the world. Stuff sells, just slowly, and the fees eat up the profit. Ingame or IRL, I don't make stuff just to be busy, I can find other stuff to do, just tired of vendor fees eating up whatever I do sell.
Phoenix Festival is coming up (check Legends board) if you can come to any of it, come on! What hours are you normally on?
Some say it isn't but everything I've read says its current, including the patch notes for 80 which only changed how it was charged incrementally through the day, instead of once per day.
I think I'll set a vendor up to confirm this.
I can confirm the basic rate of 60 per real day and that it does not all come out at server up like it use to.
Every Sunday I kill some dreadhorns. People are welcome to join.
I also do Mel runs from time to time and I sometimes I fancy getting some Exodus keys as well.
I am usually most on during weekends. Look for Zath around there.
Not really sure when it all became about the Coin, for me its never been about RL coin but rather game Coin/Riches. It was about 10 yrs ago 2005ish for me. Built a Fortune, got everything I could ever use and most of it collecting dust in a forgotten chest some where, and enough Coin to replace it all 10-20 times over. I can only imagine a good many Stratics users are well better off then me,,,,But I digress.
With the abundance of wealth within the UO community I've no problem with the Gold Sink that is ,,,,Vendors Fees.
With the abundance of wealth within the UO community I've no problem with the Gold Sink that is ,,,,Vendors Fees.
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Lol, are you still killing those dreadhorns? I've got to admire your persistenceEvery Sunday I kill some dreadhorns. People are welcome to join.
I also do Mel runs from time to time and I sometimes I fancy getting some Exodus keys as well.
I am usually most on during weekends. Look for Zath around there.
I do miss the Mel runs
If you don't mind me and the other PERVs tagging alongEvery Sunday I kill some dreadhorns. People are welcome to join.
I also do Mel runs from time to time and I sometimes I fancy getting some Exodus keys as well.
I am usually most on during weekends. Look for Zath around there.
Not sure of Victim or Silent's weekend schedule, but I bet they would be game.
I will have to gather keys for the Phoenix Festival next weekend, but I think I can do that during Monday night or something, since getting Dread keys is pretty easy, but time consuming when the RNG decides to play against you, so there will be some 7 to 10 dread runs this Sunday for sure.If you don't mind me and the other PERVs tagging along
Let me get with Vic and see if he is up to speed on Legends enough and Silent if he is up to it. @Victim of Siege @Silent Singer ?I will have to gather keys for the Phoenix Festival next weekend, but I think I can do that during Monday night or something, since getting Dread keys is pretty easy, but time consuming when the RNG decides to play against you, so there will be some 7 to 10 dread runs this Sunday for sure.
Like I am still killing those headless miners.
Agreed. How about a solution.
I would suggest shard population percentage. They already have it calculated in terms of high, medium and low from the log in server.
Costs of vendors could be high being the normal rate. Medium rate 1/2 the cost. low 1/4 the cost.
Those numbers can vary. it's just a suggestion.
I'm always up for a run. let me know what time.
I have just started 5 runs, and I will still have another 4 sets of keys for later today, so it is up to you guys.
Well I like that idea a lot
Also have ridiculous prices raise the vendor fee.
I would like it if the vendor gets taken down automatically if no action is done on the vendor for X number of Months.
Either buying or putting something on it refreshes the vendor.
How lazy can a person be if they can't take down their own vendor or keep track of what they're selling?
I think Ox is talking about saving shoppers the bother of checking vendors that are always empty - by removing them if they aren't updated for several months
SimpleEnigma88
Adventurer
I do not have a solution, and I've only read half of this thread, but one thing that I worry about with a flat fee is the fact that there will be soooo much more stuff put on vendors(no reason to not fully stock up, right?)
How long will Vendor Search take then? On Atlantic, i already have to wait 10-12 seconds, which i have no problem with.
But if the Vendor Search database swells up like I think it would.....
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How long will Vendor Search take then? On Atlantic, i already have to wait 10-12 seconds, which i have no problem with.
But if the Vendor Search database swells up like I think it would.....
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Maybe an option to search global or sub server like Britain, Cove, Luna etc.
They should make it a percentage of price of the item, when it sells.
***Just a reminder vendors @ my ATL Luna house are only 1gp a week.
***Just a reminder vendors @ my ATL Luna house are only 1gp a week.
Then vendors would be used as storage. Just over price the item by 100X and no one will buy it.
I hadnt thought about that, but is that really a problem? Cant you keep your bods and box collection on vendors now at no cost?
yes, that is the only thing at the moment.
Then your still stuck with primary items only being sold on primary shards.
How do you figure?
High priced items will not sell very fast on low populated shards.
Thus they stay on the vendor a long time.
Which I don't mind but by the time I sell it the vendor costs will equal the cost of the item.
Which means its only logical to move the primary items to a primary shard so it doesn't cost the same as it costs of the vendor.
This ^
I actually don't see an issue with higher prices items needing more consideration into prices and location for selling.
You are right... if you're trying to sell a new cameo for 175 million on Napa, its going to take longer than trying to sell it on Atl, thus it will cost more in vendor fees... HOWEVER... I don't think the lack of items selling for 175 million is going to be a huge roadblock to new or returning players being able to find basic items like spellbooks, etc. That is the situation we have now.
I give that stuff away whenever I see them.
I don't put it on my vendors because I'm not going to supply shard hoppers.
They can bring their own crap
So, maybe what we need is a cap for each item. I don't know if this is even possible, but if it could be done, then vendor fees work as normal until it reaches the items cap (30%?), and then you would not be charged anymore. So if it sells quick, you still save money, if you are trying to use vendors or overstock for storage you are still paying fair amount, but if you have something on your vendor which doesn't sell quickly you can leave it there without being bled dry.
that would involve keeping a log of every item.
The problem with this philosophy is that a vendor is ingame 24/7 everyday. Most players aren't...
I don't mind supplying shard hoppers, or my own people. I am tired tho, of feeding the vendor whatever meager profits are made from sales.