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i need a good tam/bard template

Quickjohn

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Havent played in a while im looking at

magery 120 or maby 110 and pput a lil bit into med or focus?
taming 120
lore 120
disco v120
music 120
vet 120

2700 luck suit on . lmc 100 30 lmc

still a good template?
 
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Lord Frodo

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Nice Are those real skill point? A +15 mage spell book could free up some skill points. This is just my personal opinion but I have a real 120 Tame/lore/vet and I have a 115 Tame/Lore with a bird tally to do 120 and 100 vet with 10 vet on ring and bracelet to give 120 and do not see any difference in pet control
 

WonDumBaldGuy

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A lot depends on the masteries you intend to run. Once you see use that, those are the real 120 skills, rest you jewel up. And what you have access to.
An example of a twink template
80 mage
80 vet
120 music, Provo, disco
120 tame, lore
75 med
Jewels with mage vet med +90 skill total have room for luck or FCR 2 on each.
Mage book +15
Birds of Brit +10 tot
835 total skill points.
Carry res scrolls, enhanced bandies. Use this on roof and works well, plus fit in 1200 luck.

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PlayerSkillFTW

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My Disco/Tamer is...
120 Taming
120 Lore
GM Vet
GM Music (brought to 120 with Jewelry)
GM Disco (brought to 120 with Jewelry)
GM Magery
80 Med (90 Med with Balakai's Shaman Staff in my HPR/MR Taming Suit)
I run Taming Mastery III on him.
His Ring/Bracelet are both crafted/imbued with FC 1/FCR 3/+10 Music/+10 Disco/54 Luck on each.
 

Quickjohn

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Nice Are those real skill point? A +15 mage spell book could free up some skill points. This is just my personal opinion but I have a real 120 Tame/lore/vet and I have a 115 Tame/Lore with a bird tally to do 120 and 100 vet with 10 vet on ring and bracelet to give 120 and do not see any difference in pet control
real
 

Quickjohn

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A lot depends on the masteries you intend to run. Once you see use that, those are the real 120 skills, rest you jewel up. And what you have access to.
An example of a twink template
80 mage
80 vet
120 music, Provo, disco
120 tame, lore
75 med
Jewels with mage vet med +90 skill total have room for luck or FCR 2 on each.
Mage book +15
Birds of Brit +10 tot
835 total skill points.
Carry res scrolls, enhanced bandies. Use this on roof and works well, plus fit in 1200 luck.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using Tapatalk
then i loose half my luck. ill look into masteries
 

Quickjohn

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My Disco/Tamer is...
120 Taming
120 Lore
GM Vet
GM Music (brought to 120 with Jewelry)
GM Disco (brought to 120 with Jewelry)
GM Magery
80 Med (90 Med with Balakai's Shaman Staff in my HPR/MR Taming Suit)
I run Taming Mastery III on him.
His Ring/Bracelet are both crafted/imbued with FC 1/FCR 3/+10 Music/+10 Disco/54 Luck on each.
what does 3 do?
 

Specialist

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120tamin,120lore, 120 music, 120 peace, 120disco, 120 vet

i use the peacemaking mastery song and a suit with full 70s and max hp regen i just sit back and watch the pet kill stuff. The regens u get off the bard songs mixed with the negating a % of damage makes me feel like im in god mode at most events. Just have to watch for some monsters with the ability to interrupt ur songs. I use recall scrolls to get around so no need for magery.
 

Quickjohn

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120tamin,120lore, 120 music, 120 peace, 120disco, 120 vet

i use the peacemaking mastery song and a suit with full 70s and max hp regen i just sit back and watch the pet kill stuff. The regens u get off the bard songs mixed with the negating a % of damage makes me feel like im in god mode at most events. Just have to watch for some monsters with the ability to interrupt ur songs. I use recall scrolls to get around so no need for magery.
i have the suit. but then it takes away from my luck
 

Quickjohn

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120tamin,120lore, 120 music, 120 peace, 120disco, 120 vet

i use the peacemaking mastery song and a suit with full 70s and max hp regen i just sit back and watch the pet kill stuff. The regens u get off the bard songs mixed with the negating a % of damage makes me feel like im in god mode at most events. Just have to watch for some monsters with the ability to interrupt ur songs. I use recall scrolls to get around so no need for magery.
how do u heal,invis,cure?
 

Specialist

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the peacemaking mastery song's hp regen makes its so u dont need to heal cause u never lose life. i dont invis i use area peace which stop everything around u from fighting. Then u focus on getting everything on ur pet thro area peacing or direct peacing. The peacemaking mastery songs also make u poison resistant hp regen mean the poison does no damage to u anyway then after a few secounds the poison gets resisted is essentially cured.

Peacemaking song Resilience gives +19 hp regen +19 mana regen +19 stamina regen curse duration reduction, poison resistance, bleed duration reduced and mortal wound duration reduced

Peacemaking song Perseverence gives +27% dci -27% damage taken 5% casting focus

These bonuses also affect anyone in a party with u and u and thier pets
so ur pet gets -27% damage taken and more hp regen these regens stack on to the stuff that already on ur pet as shown in the lore page they also stack on the regens u get from ur suit.

i have +20 taming on jewelry but u could take peacing or disco to gm instead of 120 and still get the benefits of the mastery songs without affecting ur luck. not having 120 in peacing and disco will drop the # on the regens but will prolly still be pretty high. *checked on test* with 120music, 120 disco, 100 peace ur getting +11 instead of +19 and -15% damage taken instead of -27%
 
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Merus

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I have a gargoyle disco tamer:

120 disco
120 music
120 taming
120 lore
120 vet
100 magery (115 with spellbook)
20 hiding

I run the taming mastery and a high regen/1600 luck suit. There are lots of times where I prefer to get a hide off rather than just an invis.
 

PlayerSkillFTW

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what does 3 do?
Taming Mastery 3 gives access to the "Consume Damage" ability from Combat Training. Consume Damage will absorb incoming Physical damage on your pet, and convert it into a HPR (capped at +30)/HCI buff for the pet. With 80% Physical Resist and a 120/120 Consume Damage running on it, your pet is basically immune to Physical Damage, and actually healed by it due to the HPR boost. Taming Mastery 3 also gives you +3 Stable Slots, and lowers the cooldown of Whispering to 30 mins, so 1/3 uptime.
 

Keven2002

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Interesting to see that a lot of people are still using vet. I stoned vet years ago and haven't touched it since (I have spellweaving in its place). With consume damage plus the easily assembled mage suits with 70+ int/mana combo I have plenty of mana to run consume and heal my pet as needed (plus cu's and tritons have healing). My pet almost never dies.

My tamer also has med+eval so those two skills could easily be swapped for Music + Disco/Peace/Prov while keeping weaving or adding another bard skill.
 

Specialist

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Interesting to see that a lot of people are still using vet. I stoned vet years ago and haven't touched it since (I have spellweaving in its place). With consume damage plus the easily assembled mage suits with 70+ int/mana combo I have plenty of mana to run consume and heal my pet as needed (plus cu's and tritons have healing). My pet almost never dies.

My tamer also has med+eval so those two skills could easily be swapped for Music + Disco/Peace/Prov while keeping weaving or adding another bard skill.
I keep vet because u never know when ur going to fight something u under estimate. I have cu and tritons but i also use a few other pets i like varieties and sometimes ur not paying attention or ur pet just gets into a bad situation so vet is always useful. Bascially i'd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
 

Quickjohn

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I keep vet because u never know when ur going to fight something u under estimate. I have cu and tritons but i also use a few other pets i like varieties and sometimes ur not paying attention or ur pet just gets into a bad situation so vet is always useful. Bascially i'd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
i like using vet with enhanced bandaids
 

Specialist

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perfect example with the invasions i was in brit with my cu and i had 3 dragons 2 drakes 1 ancient wyrm and a captain mage all attacking my dog. He was holding his own but they were slowly making progress on his hp so i just topped em off with a bandaid.
Moments later in that same invasion i had came acrossed a unicorn in the same situation and the owner died as i arrived so i was able to keep their pet up while they got rezed.
 

kaio

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I have a disco-tamer.
120 magery
060 medi (70 with balakai staff)
060 vet
120 lore
120 tamin
120 music
120 disco
In my experience, if you plan to run _any_ mastery or have to heal your pet, you need some meditaion or focus, because when u run out of mana u are fcked.
 

Merus

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I have a disco-tamer.
120 magery
060 medi (70 with balakai staff)
060 vet
120 lore
120 tamin
120 music
120 disco
In my experience, if you plan to run _any_ mastery or have to heal your pet, you need some meditaion or focus, because when u run out of mana u are fcked.
180 mana and 30MR can maintain consume with 120 taming and 120 lore.
 

PlayerSkillFTW

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180 mana and 30MR can maintain consume with 120 taming and 120 lore.
Good luck getting 30 MR on a Luck Suit though. Plus, if you have to cast any other spells other than Consume, such as Invis, Arch Cure, or Greater Heal, then that's gonna eat into your Mana pool and you won't be able to recover it while maintaining Consume unless you have Med.
 

Basara

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My template is

120 Taming (real)
120 Lore (real)
120 Vet (90+30 from jewelry)
120 Music (110+10 from song woven mantle)
120 Provo (real)
120 Disco (105+15 from jewelry)
100 Magery (45 of it from from equipment)

I run about 1400 luck (+1000 with statue) and 25 MR. 100% LRC and 36 or so LMC). The character has about 190 mana, between INT, mana bonuses and +20 for being an elf.
I also have an alternate piece of jewelry to swap to, if I choose to swap personal Discordance for Peacemaking (and 105 peace on a soulstone), and rely on my Cu Sidhe to do the Discording.

My experience is the opposite of kaio. Focus and/or med are a complete waste of skill points, and while my mana DOES run out, it's never for long (and I don't really care for the idea of the infinite consume even being possible). I'm often standing close in with my pet (except when there's a monster AOE involved), and use vet. And going without the vet needed to rez your pet is the height of folly (not to mention the stable slots you're giving up by not having it maxed out with equipment)
 

kaio

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My template is

120 Taming (real)
120 Lore (real)
120 Vet (90+30 from jewelry)
120 Music (110+10 from song woven mantle)
120 Provo (real)
120 Disco (105+15 from jewelry)
100 Magery (45 of it from from equipment)

I run about 1400 luck (+1000 with statue) and 25 MR. 100% LRC and 36 or so LMC). The character has about 190 mana, between INT, mana bonuses and +20 for being an elf.
I also have an alternate piece of jewelry to swap to, if I choose to swap personal Discordance for Peacemaking (and 105 peace on a soulstone), and rely on my Cu Sidhe to do the Discording.

My experience is the opposite of kaio. Focus and/or med are a complete waste of skill points, and while my mana DOES run out, it's never for long (and I don't really care for the idea of the infinite consume even being possible). I'm often standing close in with my pet (except when there's a monster AOE involved), and use vet. And going without the vet needed to rez your pet is the height of folly (not to mention the stable slots you're giving up by not having it maxed out with equipment)
You can't really compare a +10 skill template vs a +100 skill template.
Iv'e done a ton of EM events on this template, what is your experience from events with your template ?
 

Draza

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Spellweaving gives more bang for em events.

Disco makes it so everyone does more damage, and magery without eval is more fo utility. I usually go
Gm med,
Gm magery
40 focus
120 sw
120 lore
120 taming
120 vet

That allows me cheaper suits.
Could swap focus for necro wraith form
For more spells.
 

kaio

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Spellweaving gives more bang for em events.

Disco makes it so everyone does more damage, and magery without eval is more fo utility. I usually go
Gm med,
Gm magery
40 focus
120 sw
120 lore
120 taming
120 vet

That allows me cheaper suits.
Could swap focus for necro wraith form
For more spells.
Indeed weaving is a must have, but OP asked for a tamer-bard template. I also have a few weaver-tamers, a bit different template then yours thou.
My weaver tamers has
120 tame
120 lore
120 magery
120 weave
120 eval
120 medi
I dont use vet on the template because weaving give me gift of life, and i use a pet summoning ball if pet gets low.
I do enjoy doing EM events on my disco-tamer, i dont use consume i use discord mastery, and i get loot rights at all events, and sometimes a drop also :)
When i dont do EM events, i swap to a luck suit and do all the trivial stuff like roof etc etc.
 

Draza

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so here is my problem with not having vet. even with gift of life, to many times a random aoe pops and kills my freshly rezed pet.


as far as OP is concerned, without EI, magery at 120 is really only going to help with a few spells. you could drop that down gm, or lower with jewels, and add in some med. med will go further than focus does to keep mana up. disco is great for a tamer.
 

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I have a few tamer bard builds I used depending on what I plan on doing with it. If I'm going to let my pet do all the work I run 120 taming, lore, music, provo, peace, discord. I use a +15 magery spellbook, +20 magery ring/bracelet and that gives me enough magery to recall around with my pet. My suit has 30 mana regen and +30 focus and I'm able to run both bard buffs indefinitely.
 
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PlayerSkillFTW

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Hello, I just came back in game and after reading few post. Is there a plus value to be a bard today?
Yes, Disco/Tamers are a very powerful build. Solo, they make Chiv+AI pets deal even more damage, and in a group, they're always welcome (except for at Travesty) for making everyone deal more damage.

The 4x120 Bard build also provides very powerful buffs for the party and pets. A lot of people nowadays use 2 EJ accounts with 4x120 Bards to pair with their main char. One Bard runs the Peace buffs, the other Bard runs the Provo buffs.
 
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