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How have artifacts and imbuing had the OPPOSITE effect?

Speedy Orkit

Grand Inquisitor
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
They make artifacts easier to get.

They make fantastic armor, jewelry, and weapons readily obtainable.

Silver has dropped in price.

There are new sources of revenue for players.


So why is everyone MORE scared to lose their suit now? I sat outside of a guild house last night with 5 guild mates, against 6-8 opposing faction members. Only one or two would come out, for fear of losing their precious suits. A second opposing guild tells us "Sorry, you've got too many tonight."

I thought this was Siege, Land of the Lost. Everyone cries about insurance, but that is what the house is, the ninja templates, and the new found speed of some players. Is it fun watching PvP from the four walls? I am tired of logging on a decent amount of players, only to find other guilds(not to say people in our guild don't do this either) won't fight because they are out numbered.

Your gear may be pretty sweet, but I highly doubt it is worth paying about fifteen dollars a month to watch a game, but not participate.
 
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Fanta(Siege)

Guest
They make artifacts easier to get.

They make fantastic armor, jewelry, and weapons readily obtainable.

Silver has dropped in price.

There are new sources of revenue for players.


So why is everyone MORE scared to lose their suit now? I sat outside of a guild house last night with 5 guild mates, against 6-8 opposing faction members. Only one or two would come out, for fear of losing their precious suits. A second opposing guild tells us "Sorry, you've got too many tonight."

I thought this was Siege, Land of the Lost. Everyone cries about insurance, but that is what the house is, the ninja templates, and the new found speed of some players. Is it fun watching PvP from the four walls? I am tired of logging on a decent amount of players, only to find other guilds(not to say people in our guild don't do this either) won't fight because they are out numbered.

Your gear may be pretty sweet, but I highly doubt it is worth paying about fifteen dollars a month to watch a game, but not participate.
I Highly Agree...
 

Wulf2k

Stratics Legend
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
So why is everyone MORE scared to lose their suit now?
Because they're still 'new'.

I'm sure it took time for people to run around with unblessed arties at first too.

The important question is, what were you doing standing outside a house? If you want PvP, go do a harrower and announce it.
 

Scuzzlebutt

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
They make artifacts easier to get.

They make fantastic armor, jewelry, and weapons readily obtainable.

Silver has dropped in price.

There are new sources of revenue for players.


So why is everyone MORE scared to lose their suit now? I sat outside of a guild house last night with 5 guild mates, against 6-8 opposing faction members. Only one or two would come out, for fear of losing their precious suits. A second opposing guild tells us "Sorry, you've got too many tonight."

I thought this was Siege, Land of the Lost. Everyone cries about insurance, but that is what the house is, the ninja templates, and the new found speed of some players. Is it fun watching PvP from the four walls? I am tired of logging on a decent amount of players, only to find other guilds(not to say people in our guild don't do this either) won't fight because they are out numbered.

Your gear may be pretty sweet, but I highly doubt it is worth paying about fifteen dollars a month to watch a game, but not participate.
When you outnumber a guild 2:1 why do you still use two dedicated dismounters and at least one tamer?
 
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Calibretto

Guest
When you outnumber a guild 2:1 why do you still use two dedicated dismounters and at least one tamer?
The numbers were the opposite the night before. Me, roland and havik vs how many SP! ? And you guys still ran a dismounter with Brook. Just a roll of the dice of who's gonna be on. Nice if we got our timing right and we could have one HUGE fight!!!


Now that would make uo worth playing reg again.
 

Scuzzlebutt

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
The numbers were the opposite the night before. Me, roland and havik vs how many SP! ? And you guys still ran a dismounter with Brook. Just a roll of the dice of who's gonna be on. Nice if we got our timing right and we could have one HUGE fight!!!


Now that would make uo worth playing reg again.
Couldn't say for sure, I wasn't on. But if we did have numbers I would be willing to bet there were no pets out from our side.
 
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Hugibear

Guest
Pets are huge in a fight. Pets are the only reason I have died at all in recent memory. Anymore if i see pets in a pvp fight, i leave. I am really done fighting someone with either a dread mare or dragon. Remember you said pvp not pvm, please keep it as pvp and you will prolly get more fights.
 

Speedy Orkit

Grand Inquisitor
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Pets are huge in a fight. Pets are the only reason I have died at all in recent memory. Anymore if i see pets in a pvp fight, i leave. I am really done fighting someone with either a dread mare or dragon. Remember you said pvp not pvm, please keep it as pvp and you will prolly get more fights.
I meant to add dragons into my rant as well, people run these for a few reasons:

Can be naked
Can run stealth
High damage output

No loss, tons to gain. I don't mind pets SO much, but hells bells, it gets annoying.
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
I think faction arties have really ruined pvp on siege, the imbuing doesn't hurt the shard like the faction arties. The point is everyone can imbue items or have someone imbue them for them but not everyone wants to participate in factions.
 

Wulf2k

Stratics Legend
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
...And... now they don't have to?

I'm faction and I don't run faction arties.
 

Tiberius

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I almost ran out to suicide against you guys last night out of boredem but just decided to log. I was not even afraid of loosing the suit as I probably would have gotten it back considering some of the folks I saw on the field.

I figured that would last all of two seconds with the dismounters and pets tho so decided to log. I would also like to see us all log in with the large numbers. maybe we can try to set up some kinda veryy loose rule pvp night.
Do it like we did the non faction wars; pick one night of the week and we go from there. Don't even need to have rules other than maybea different local every night away from peoples housing. Maybe we could get people to work this one night into thier gaming schedules if everyone involved knew they would be logging on to guildmates to play with and enemies to fight.
 
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Sunchicken

Guest
I can see were some people can have issues with faction artifacts.
It was a poorly thought through idea to give a revamp to factions. I believe factions needed a boost.

With that said they are here and not going anywhere anytime soon i would suggest either using them and expect to loose them or not use them
Personally i dont mind the time i invest to get silver vs risk of losing my faction arties.
I prefer capped mr and lmc and they make it so much easier to cap both
 

Mr. James

Visitor
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Pets are huge in a fight. Pets are the only reason I have died at all in recent memory. Anymore if i see pets in a pvp fight, i leave. I am really done fighting someone with either a dread mare or dragon. Remember you said pvp not pvm, please keep it as pvp and you will prolly get more fights.
Hugi, I told you id not use my pets and in exchange I requested that you not use your weapon and not cast. Mages can summon fighting pets, Spellweavers can, hell... everyone can. Even now you can have 2 mares (AKA Vollums) but people are working them up and when they get powerful enough youll see LOTS of pets on the field. If your not wize enough too kill a tamer single handedly like Diablo can then your skills need improvement. And maybe if you were more likeable and friendly on the game you wouldnt be most peoples first target. Your one of the biggest crybabys when it comes to dying.

So if you wanna wine about what you gotta fight I suggest you keep your PvP to this forum at a board level.

You and many other like Diablo seem to have the power to move at inhuman speeds but complain if the pet can keep up but the person cant.

Pets ARE weapons and how I spend my point too kill you is my business. Knowing that the sec a pet shows up on the field means that you'll leave, tells me that I'll get a pet everytime and maybe you should consider just playing only when accounts are free.
 

nightstalker22

Lore Master
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
"I thought this was Siege, Land of the Lost. Everyone cries about insurance, but that is what the house is "-Speedy

I couldn't agree more!

This is Siege! Why do people have private houses? Even if you have private teleporters to your secured room on a public house, you may be lazy and gate out of that room, allowing someone to get in and wait on your return... instead of being booted by a trammel script.
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
This is Siege! Why do people have private houses? Even if you have private teleporters to your secured room on a public house, you may be lazy and gate out of that room, allowing someone to get in and wait on your return... instead of being booted by a trammel script.
If you listen to the majority of the people here then there are no other ways inside, but if you think outside the box and realize there is actually things that your average scuzzbucket and others don't know yet then there are ways of getting inside. :)
 

Freelsy

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
If you listen to the majority of the people here then there are no other ways inside, but if you think outside the box and realize there is actually things that your average scuzzbucket and others don't know yet then there are ways of getting inside. :)
Omg, there it is again!! lol
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
Omg, there it is again!! lol
C'mon Freesly you've played this shard long enough to know that my reputation has proven time and time again that I can get into 80% of private houses. No?
 

Wulf2k

Stratics Legend
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Woah, did the Matrix just change something?

Cause I'm getting some deja vu.
 

nightstalker22

Lore Master
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
C'mon Freesly you've played this shard long enough to know that my reputation has proven time and time again that I can get into 80% of private houses. No?
That would require being friended or being given access by someone who is friended, no?
 

Revvo

Slightly Crazed
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
C'mon Freesly you've played this shard long enough to know that my reputation has proven time and time again that I can get into 80% of private houses. No?
There was bug for getting into a house set to private but you would not have known it, you couldn't do much anyways as soon as you tried to move it kicked you out. You can force load some private houses to see if they have items worth waiting for if the house is decaying though.

As for getting into a "private" area in a public house? Any moron who can hold a box on their cursor or cast energy field can do that :)
 

Scuzzlebutt

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
If you listen to the majority of the people here then there are no other ways inside, but if you think outside the box and realize there is actually things that your average scuzzbucket and others don't know yet then there are ways of getting inside. :)
:sad3::sad3::sad3:
 

nightstalker22

Lore Master
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
As for getting into a "private" area in a public house? Any moron who can hold a box on their cursor or cast energy field can do that :)
I would be very interested in you PM'ing me the details on how this is done! *evil grin*
 
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Hugibear

Guest
To Mr. James,
I dont speed hack, I dont need too.
To me pets count as a blessing, so you have how many blessed items to fight someone with??? I have 1. You also dont see mages out in the field trying to kill people naked do you?? Taming is overpowered and is prolly the only temp you can play to compete.
 
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Sunchicken

Guest
Hugi, I told you id not use my pets and in exchange I requested that you not use your weapon and not cast. Mages can summon fighting pets, Spellweavers can, hell... everyone can. Even now you can have 2 mares (AKA Vollums) but people are working them up and when they get powerful enough youll see LOTS of pets on the field. If your not wize enough too kill a tamer single handedly like Diablo can then your skills need improvement. And maybe if you were more likeable and friendly on the game you wouldnt be most peoples first target. Your one of the biggest crybabys when it comes to dying.

So if you wanna wine about what you gotta fight I suggest you keep your PvP to this forum at a board level.

You and many other like Diablo seem to have the power to move at inhuman speeds but complain if the pet can keep up but the person cant.

Pets ARE weapons and how I spend my point too kill you is my business. Knowing that the sec a pet shows up on the field means that you'll leave, tells me that I'll get a pet everytime and maybe you should consider just playing only when accounts are free.

Heres my theory on this subject.

You sir are corret you pay for your account and no one but you can choose what template you play.
What i think should happen is you should not be able to bond a pet on siege UNLESS you choose to use it as your siege bless item. As you so plainly put it "Pets ARE weapons" if thats the case you should either loose you wepon upon death or use your siege bless deed to keep it...
 

nightstalker22

Lore Master
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
UNLEASHED
Keep it to PMs guys. It's no big secret, but I think the specifics qualify as discussing an exploit.
Are you CENSORING me?

%^$%^$%

Wulf is the WORST moderator EVER! :danceb:

Heh... I will experiment with boxes until I can get in a house... ;)
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
Keep it to PMs guys. It's no big secret, but I think the specifics qualify as discussing an exploit.
Me personally I don't use cheap illegal tactics, I prefer to just be more creative than the average joe. Both of these were very clean and well thought out "tactics" used to achieve my ultimate goal. You may also notice that in ALL my pics you can very much tel that I have always been a big fan of the focus attack. *chuckling*


 

Revvo

Slightly Crazed
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Darkness i didn't think monitors still existed that could run in such a low resolution, in fact i'm pretty sure my iphone's screen is a higher resolution :)
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
Darkness i didn't think monitors still existed that could run in such a low resolution, in fact i'm pretty sure my iphone's screen is a higher resolution :)
Trust me when I tell you that you don't even wanna go down that road. My monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050, I purposely play UO on 800x600 resolution and I'm quite sure you don't even have a clue why.

FYI: My resolution actually goes all the way down to 640x480, maybe you should update your video card's driver more often.
 

Revvo

Slightly Crazed
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Trust me when I tell you that you don't even wanna go down that road. My monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050, I purposely play UO on 800x600 resolution and I'm quite sure you don't even have a clue why.

FYI: My resolution actually goes all the way down to 640x480, maybe you should update your video card's driver more often.
I sure don't :)

Why play like that when you can have an old client fully open, with an SA client fully open (Apparently it's ok to double client now so long as you have one of each client open :)), automap open for both and a web page? Unless you have poor eyesight or can't handle having more than one thing happening on screen at a time without getting confused there really isn't a point :)
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
I have no need to double client as I only have 1 active account and am very close to closing it and I don't have the SA expansion and if you still don't know the reason I play in low resolution then I am highly disappointed.
 
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Shakaja

Guest
C'mon Freesly you've played this shard long enough to know that my reputation has proven time and time again that I can get into 80% of private houses. No?

you realize, posting pictures of being in a vendorhouse aka public house does show alot about your abilities to be inside a private house without access?

you must keep all the intelligence inside the box, otherwise i cant explain why your outside-box-thinking is so insanely horrible.
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
you realize, posting pictures of being in a vendorhouse aka public house does show alot about your abilities to be inside a private house without access?

you must keep all the intelligence inside the box, otherwise i cant explain why your outside-box-thinking is so insanely horrible.
You do realize the quote my pictures was referring to, right? Was simply replying to wulf's quote about getting into "private areas" in a "public house". I know you're not english but I also know your english is very capable of reading complete paragraphs. Those pictures involved no exploiting.
 

Revvo

Slightly Crazed
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
if you still don't know the reason I play in low resolution then I am highly disappointed.
Darkness, the fact i have no clue why makes it either a stupid reason or no reason at all :)
 
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Shakaja

Guest
You do realize the quote my pictures was referring to, right? Was simply replying to wulf's quote about getting into "private areas" in a "public house". I know you're not english but I also know your english is very capable of reading complete paragraphs. Those pictures involved no exploiting.

well, im perfectly aware of how you replied to wulfs post, i guess i was just assuming that you cant be serious about this picture proving anything about how you got into the house. guess i give your little box too much credit.
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
Well if an exploit was used and I was to post it that would be a bigger mistake, wouldn't ya say? I'm just saying....

This is a dumb fight and I will reserve my energy on bigger issues. Besides I have nothing against you so it really wouldn't do anything for me to penetrate your logic.
 
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