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Holy City and nightly undead. Broken?

Xalan Dementia

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Ok in the ask the devs forum a question on where to find putrid undead gargoyles was asked and answered, they said they spawn with the undead that spawn in holy city at nite. Does it go by a ingame clock? im sitting here at the city in front of Tomb of Kings (thats holy city right?) with a clock and have yet to see a single undead anything show up. is it broken? am I in the wrong area? whats up with it?
 

Aurelius

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I've waited many hours for them to arrive, and they never did... even took a human character without nightsight so I could be sure the 'in-game' night happened, but never once saw this attack by the undead.
 
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Stupid Miner

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If you want my uneducated opinion... If they were spawning correctly *someone* would have seen them by now.
 

Crysta

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And the times that spawn did work, the putrid undead gargoyles weren't part of it. The name was different and they weren't the ones needed for the quest.

*edit*

The ones there were Effete Putrid Gargoyles (as that topic said), and not the Putrid Undead Gargoyles the quest needs. So the proper answer is "Neither is in-game at the moment". Obviously since he didn't even realize it was a different monster entirely, it means something is wrong currently. :p
 

Xalan Dementia

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k, i kinda thought that when I read marks answer post. So how many quest monsters are not yet in game? any others besides putrid undead gargys and Treefellow guys?
 
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Better question...how many Devs are not in the game now?
 

Tina Small

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I think this spawn is broken on most shards and currently might only be happening on some of the Japanese shards. I've only seen it happen on Retribution shard during beta and, since then, on Yamato.

Here's how you can check for yourself:

Buy a clock from a tinker and hang out on the road that runs south from the Tomb of Kings entrance. The spawn of effete putrid gargoyles, effete undead gargoyles, and gargoyle shades should show up at 7 pm and then disappear promptly in columns of black smoke at 1 am according to the clock you purchased from the tinker.

An hour of game time equals five minutes of "real time." That means that every two hours in real time, a new 30-minute spawn should start in Holy City.

 

Harlequin

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The ones there were Effete Putrid Gargoyles (as that topic said), and not the Putrid Undead Gargoyles the quest needs.
That's what I see as well. But my first thought was maybe killing the Effete Putrid Gargoyles counts as Putrid Undead Gargoyles? Anyone tested?
 

Bazer

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was just there myself to look for spawn on baja and none showed up
 

Crysta

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That's what I see as well. But my first thought was maybe killing the Effete Putrid Gargoyles counts as Putrid Undead Gargoyles? Anyone tested?
Well, during the open beta it didn't.
 
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Kyrgon

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Drachenfels is broken too

No spawn at night in the holy city....
 

Xalan Dementia

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so whats the next step? should we gather a list of all shards its not working on and submit bug report? Ive only checked it on Sonoma so far. Even if its not the right monster for the hunter quest, it should be fixed for new gargys that wanna get thru abyss.
 

Tina Small

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I'll try to check some shards this evening. Just ran my untrained LJ to Holy City on Asuka, and as I expected, the spawn occured right on time.



Izumo's and Mizuho's spawns also happened on time:



 
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Beastmaster

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Sounds like EAJapan or whatever its called is more on the ball than EAUsa.
 

Tina Small

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Just checked these three shards in the last 20 minutes or so and NONE of them had the undead spawn at 7 pm shard time in Ter Mur:

Oceania
Arirang
Balhae

I have screen shots for each if necessary, taken right outside the Tomb of Kings entrance where there should normally be at least a few of the undead spawn.

Edited to add:

Formosa - No spawn when checked at 8:52 pm shard time in Ter Mur.
Atlantic - No spawn when checked at 7 pm shard time in Ter Mur.
Origin - No spawn when checked at 7 pm shard time in Ter Mur.
Lake Austin - No spawn when checked at 7 pm shard time in Ter Mur.
 

Tina Small

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Be sure to use the clock while you're in Ter Mur. I did some checking on Atlantic and the "local time" varies by which city and facet you're in. Luna runs two hours behind Umbra and various towns in Trammel seem to be on different times too, about 35 minutes behind Ter Mur time. Ilshenar seems to vary by where you are too. I gave up checking after a while. :lol:
 

Xalan Dementia

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yea ive been noticing all the us shards i check are without spawn. if i dont have a clock i just ask a npc by saying "npcs name Time"
 
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Be sure to use the clock while you're in Ter Mur. I did some checking on Atlantic and the "local time" varies by which city and facet you're in. Luna runs two hours behind Umbra and various towns in Trammel seem to be on different times too, about 35 minutes behind Ter Mur time. Ilshenar seems to vary by where you are too. I gave up checking after a while. :lol:
Yeah the times vary from city to city. Always been that way. Tina I'm sure you've been around long enough to remember having to time your moongate travel.?.? While it was a bit of a pain it was another aspect of that immersed you in the game which is now gone.
 

GalenKnighthawke

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They should fix this, and quickly.

Not just for the quest, though obviously that is an important reason.

But also because, right now, the fiction of the game doesn't make sense.

The gargoyle refugees we see around the Royal City are fleeing the the undead attacks from the Tomb of Kings, right? What attacks?

*shrugs*

Please fix this, I doubt it's that hard to fix (how can it be when it's working right on the Asian servers?) and it would add a lot.

Several weeks ago there was an EM event that led us to the Holy City. Imagine if this had happened to coincide with an Undead spawn?

Sounds fun to me anyway.

And, as bad as it looks that you didn't catch the error in the first place it looks way worse to not fix it.

-Galen's player
 

Sarsmi

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They should fix this, and quickly.

Not just for the quest, though obviously that is an important reason.

But also because, right now, the fiction of the game doesn't make sense.

The gargoyle refugees we see around the Royal City are fleeing the the undead attacks from the Tomb of Kings, right? What attacks?

*shrugs*

Please fix this, I doubt it's that hard to fix (how can it be when it's working right on the Asian servers?) and it would add a lot.

Several weeks ago there was an EM event that led us to the Holy City. Imagine if this had happened to coincide with an Undead spawn?

Sounds fun to me anyway.

And, as bad as it looks that you didn't catch the error in the first place it looks way worse to not fix it.

-Galen's player

If it's working on one shard but not others it kind of looks like to me it's something that needs to be unlocked for it to happen. So maybe it's something we need to figure out how to do? Might be a good question for the dev forum.
 

Ahuaeyjnkxs

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Sarsmi... I learned to love your social intelligence :)

But that would mean the devs have had a great idea... like doing stuff that not everybody knows to add dynamism to the server, but thats contrary to the declared politics they have been declaring in the last years...

So you really think it's possible ? I think it's unlikely...
 

Tina Small

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My guess is that a Japanese developer wrote the quest and a Japanese engineer turned it on, but perhaps didn't have the authority to turn it on for all of the shards. Then the task of turning it on was overlooked or never made it on to the to-do list of the engineer(s) that handle all the other shards.
 

Sarsmi

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Sarsmi... I learned to love your social intelligence :)

But that would mean the devs have had a great idea... like doing stuff that not everybody knows to add dynamism to the server, but thats contrary to the declared politics they have been declaring in the last years...

So you really think it's possible ? I think it's unlikely...
Probably unlikely, but possible. They said there were SA easter eggs, though they also said there were no undiscovered mob encounters in SA. But then again the encounter has been discovered on one shard, so that could apply.
 
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katherinepgoh

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If you mean the putrid undead gargoyles for the horns quest, you can only kill them at two places. The Medusa Peerless boss spawns 2-4 each time, and the Primeval Lich spawn has a level of them (or so i'm told on the lich, have yet to finish it.)
 

Farsight

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Nah, it's just undead gargoyles for the horns.

Putrid Undead Gargoyles, which to our knowledge don't exist, are for a Percolem hunting quest - tier 3. We can choose between dream wraiths (Primeval lich spawn), maddening horrors (outside Medusa) or putrid undead gargoyles (I've tried all the variations, and none of the similarly named gargoyles count toward that quest).
 
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