Help for a Newb Archer

[Lord Velner]

Hello. I'm working on an Archer template. I plan to use him for PvM; mostly champ spawns and Doom Gauntlet. I'm not certain what skills to choose. Does anybody know a good template for a PvM Archer? Any input is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

-Velner

 

[Storm]

120 Archery
120 Bushido
120 Tactics
100 Healing
95 Anatomy
90 Resist
70 Chiv

try this one this is what i use or close to it

 

[Lord Velner]

I've noticed a lot of people do not use Focus or Med with Archers. Is this a good idea? I have a tough time keeping up w/ Mana on my Warrior who has 100 Med. My main problem has been deciding between Resist and Focus..

-Velner

 

[Farsight]

I actually use med on my archer, it makes me MUCH less dependent on mana leeching bows.

My template is:
120 archery
115 tactics
115 bushido
100 anatomy
100 meditation
90 healing
80 chivalry

I don't miss having resist even a little bit outside of Doom. In Doom I compensate by using a slower bow (demon slayer heavy crossbow with only 10% SSI (ash)) so I can remove curses before my next shot.
I tried having focus instead of meditation at first, but the mana regeneration rate was much too slow for my taste and stamina potions/divine fury regenerates all of my stamina instantly anyway. So I dropped it for med and I find it wonderful.

My advice: either use resist (some people like it) or meditation (some people like that).

They both have advantages and disadvantages, so which one you choose is up to you and your play style. From what I read so far, perhaps you'd be better off with resist and using mana leeching bows.

 

[Connor_Graham]

120 Archery
120 Bushido
120 Tactics
100 Healing
95 Anatomy
90 Resist
70 Chiv

try this one this is what i use or close to it

I recognize this template.

I'm actually going to be changing this template up just a bit. I'm going to be dropping Tactics by 5 and bumping Anatomy up by 5 in order to get the 5% damage bonus for GM Anatomy. It will increase the amount of damage output the template has without sacrificing anything.

To answer the question on Med, I've found that Resist is more important than Med for an archer (IMO) for the simple reason that archery weapons are the slowest in the game, and any Curse spell cast on you kills swing speed. In PvM you will almost constantly be cursed over and over again, making removing the curse nothing but a waste of mana. Having 90 Resist compensates for this and keeps you swinging at speeds that you need. You have to make up for the lack of Focus/Med by having a high mana regen suit and using bows that have mana leech on them. The bows really aren't that hard to find, and don't cost that much compared to melee weapons.

 

[Old Man of UO]

...
I'm actually going to be changing this template up just a bit. I'm going to be dropping Tactics by 5 and bumping Anatomy up by 5 in order to get the 5% damage bonus for GM Anatomy. It will increase the amount of damage output the template has without sacrificing anything. ...

Heh... I recognize this template! On my shard the 120 Tactics scroll is 8 mil+ and this template will actually do a bit more damage because of the 5% anatomy bonus at GM:

120 Archery
120 Bushido
115 Tactics
100 Healing
100 Anatomy
90 Resist
70 Chiv

The last two I am working on now, wondering which is better? I do a bit of everything with my archer.

90 Resist
70 Chiv

or

85 Resist
75 Chiv

 

[Vaneca]

tbh I would screw the 120 Tactics and take 120 Anatomy instead.
More damage healed and just a little less damage.
Chivalry 55 is enough. you´ll fizzle a few times but everythings gonna be fine.
Resist is good if you got no meditation or anything.
Otherwise I would prefer meditation over resist (for pvm only) since theres also non magic opponents.
But maybe thats just me =)

Haven´t played an archer in ages now, but should still be the same ^^

 

[Old Man of UO]

tbh I would screw the 120 Tactics and take 120 Anatomy instead.
More damage healed and just a little less damage.
Chivalry 55 is enough. you´ll fizzle a few times but everythings gonna be fine.
...

Actually, you make a good point. The Anatomy vs Tactics is a good point you make. Depending on which bow you choose, there will be 0-4 points difference in the base damage, most will be 0-2 difference. You get the 5% damage bonus for GM anatomy and the 6.25% bonus for the GM tactics. The rest kinda balances out... I hadn't considered that before.

Now on the Chivalry, on the other hand, I disagree with. For me 55 Chivalry is way too low to cast EoO and Dispel Evil (to get rid of revenants, which it won't at that level). EoO has a min casting skill of 45, leaving you at 30-40% success. I would still work, but depending on the RNG you could easily take 10 or more tries to get in cast. 60 chiv for me is the min.

 

[Diomedes Artega]

The last two I am working on now, wondering which is better? I do a bit of everything with my archer.

90 Resist
70 Chiv

or

85 Resist
75 Chiv

Personally I have a different playing style, but if you are looking at the two, why not just use the bottom one? 75 Chivalry will give you higher success rate on Enemy of One and consequently better damage output. I'm not big on +skill items for an archer suit, but there are nice combinations for chivalry and resist.

 

[Diomedes Artega]

Hello. I'm working on an Archer template. I plan to use him for PvM; mostly champ spawns and Doom Gauntlet. I'm not certain what skills to choose. Does anybody know a good template for a PvM Archer? Any input is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

-Velner

Aside from an ABC archer, you can just go with a chivalry archer:

120 Archery
120 Tactics
120 Anatomy
120 Healing
120 Resist
105 Chivalry
Rest into meditation

Max chance to hit, max damage, max resist, max damage healed, alternative way of ressurecting players, and fairs okay for PvP and champ spawns.

 

[GFY]

120 Archery
120 Bushido
100 Tactics
100 Anatomy
100 Healing
100 Chivalry
100 Resist

I do make up 20 in items. It isn't that difficult really, and no I don't have the Hunters Headdress. But that is a very viable option for the dex bonus, and hci as well. I like higher chiv and healing so I can cross heal better and there is nothing better then a quick noble sacrifice and rezzing your whole party! (Can't do that with 55 chiv! )

 

[Diomedes Artega]

tbh I would screw the 120 Tactics and take 120 Anatomy instead.
More damage healed and just a little less damage.
Chivalry 55 is enough. you´ll fizzle a few times but everythings gonna be fine.
Resist is good if you got no meditation or anything.
Otherwise I would prefer meditation over resist (for pvm only) since theres also non magic opponents.
But maybe thats just me =)

Haven´t played an archer in ages now, but should still be the same ^^

Have to say I agree with Old Man. If you take part in any PvM activities at all while in a PvP faucet, 60 chivalry is pretty much the minimum wanted. If just doing only PvP that number is more adjustable in my opinion. Personally I always went with at least 60.

 

[Arch Magus]

Im loving these 106 chiv holy lights. destroys all low spawn.

basically im shooting for
120 arch
120 tact
120 bush
120 anat
120 heal
120 chiv

i might switch out healing for resist spells later. I'm finding the more I play him (champs spawns/no pvp, i split) the less I use bandy's if I'm careful.
and i figure with resisting poisons and never needing mana, I could possibly do without it.

good leech heavy i use
30 ssi
30 dmg
30'ish mana leech
30'ish stamina leech

I'm doing huge damage with lightning strike bushido.

 

[Diomedes Artega]

Im loving these 106 chiv holy lights. destroys all low spawn.

basically im shooting for
120 arch
120 tact
120 bush
120 anat
120 heal
120 chiv

i might switch out healing for resist spells later. I'm finding the more I play him (champs spawns/no pvp, i split) the less I use bandy's if I'm careful.
and i figure with resisting poisons and never needing mana, I could possibly do without it.

good leech heavy i use
30 ssi
30 dmg
30'ish mana leech
30'ish stamina leech

I'm doing huge damage with lightning strike bushido.

Don't you mean 105?