Has UO jumped the shark?

[Restroom Cowboy]

On a fairly regular basis and above 600 is not that uncomon.

Exactly...and how many points are available on a imbued item?


Lets face it, you cannot make everyone happy...


@ maorite don't call others cry babies when you are the one complaining. I dont believe you realize just how ******** this makes your posts look.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

I still prefer some of my runic made weapons to imbued ones. You cant imbue a -20 SC mage no neg wep with 19 dci and DI on it. You cant get above 15 dci with imbuing, nor would you be able to get the 40 DI on it as well. *I might be wrong here, I didnt look at my imbuing menu before I typed that out*
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Just wanted to clarify, you can make a SC no neg -21 dci -20 mage wep with DI with the use of both imbuing and low end runics. Simply craft the scimmies until you get the desired DCI, drop the DI to 1, then imbue the rest bumping the DI back at the end.

 

[Eyes of Origin]

Just wanted to clarify, you can make a SC no neg -21 dci -20 mage wep with DI with the use of both imbuing and low end runics. Simply craft the scimmies until you get the desired DCI, drop the DI to 1, then imbue the rest bumping the DI back at the end.

Yeah, I should've checked before posting lol the point though, regardless is you cant get all those max mods on an imbued item.. and your max dci is still 15 on imbuing.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

I think the average player (NOT power gamer) did never possess the high-end runic items and arties, and will never have the high-end imbued items (as some resources really require a lot of effort to find).

There's always a group of players who will have the best stuff due to the insane amount of time they're spending in UO, contrary to those people who only do in Britannia what is fun and entertaining. Fortunately, this group is the minority. Which allows us average players to have access to medium (but still good) items for a decent price.

I think it is good that you can create decent equipment with not too much effort, like good jewelry with 90 imbuing and without needing too rare ingredients, good armor and weapons from medium runic tools, and decent artifacts like the Heart of the Lion.

I'm quite happy with this, and I do not worry much about the high-end items some people have. Just avoid to get sucked into the power gamer treadmill. This game is meant to be fun, not work.

So...I took off my 1/3 50 EP 6 phys 3 sdi unenhanced ring, all of my unenhanced crafted armor (pre imbue my suit was worth in the 100s of mils....) and replaced them all with arties, faction goodies, and a grand total of 4 imbued items. This new suit only cost me my time, some silver, and 0 gold. Uberlicious...and easy on the wallet.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

Yeah, I should've checked before posting lol the point though, regardless is you cant get all those max mods on an imbued item.. and your max dci is still 15 on imbuing.

yep...understood what you were getting at...

I just like to encourage others to think well outside the box.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

I think this is often forgotten. The argument against it is you can't pick the mods. But, if you do get that lucky combo, you need never replace it; nobody considers that overpowered.

If they decided to wind back imbuing somehow, all the current stuff would eventually wear out and break & be out of circulation. Any uber runics in the game now will forever remain in the game.

I agree with you 100%.

People are just too shortsided to ever see the big picture.

 

[Eyes of Origin]

Further to that, the kind of items that are being created by imbuing are too powerful for ANYONE to have, let alone complete nubs that dont deserve them.
All imbuing has done is make the game more item based and less skill based (as if it needed to get worse!!).

Seriously??? Imbuing isnt cheap.. so not everyone is getting what they want. It's cheaper than runics, but thats because runics are such a b**** to get.. honestly, its the runics that ruined things before imbuing. The high cost of buying the runic or the items made from the runics did nothing but spread out the playing field.
And how does someone not DESERVE the items, regardless of being a "nub" or not??? Is this an example of someone who isnt happy because you could own someone before imbued items because the supposed "nubs" couldnt afford runic made items and now they have imbued items and you cant do the job anymore?

*edit* Sorry, comments like that just make me go "Grrrrrrr!"

 

[Anakena]

What we see right now, when most powergamers have finished training imbuing is that they start to use their stock of items and ingredients to craft powerful items. This is the initial "burst" consuming those accumulated goods. The ring described by the OP is one of them.

Some people will of course imbue items to the max. It will cost them of course a lot to do that. This is what will balance imbuing on a long term.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

What we see right now, when most powergamers have finished training imbuing is that they start to use their stock of items and ingredients to craft powerful items. This is the initial "burst" consuming those accumulated goods. The ring described by the OP is one of them.

Some people will of course imbue items to the max. It will cost them of course a lot to do that. This is what will balance imbuing on a long term.

The ring described by the OP is unimbuable. Please be aware of your facts before you try to support someone elses false claims. Thank you.

50 EP = 200
15 DCI = 110
FC 1 = 140
FCR 3 = 110?

200 + 110 + 140 + 110 = 560/500

Comprende?

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

The only downside to all of this is that 99% of the creatures/monsters become even more pointless. UO really requires a deep review of all of its mobs to make them more challenging.

Just because something is not an instanced boss or a summoned champion doesn't mean it has to be weaksauce.

 

[Petra Fyde]

Imbuing would seem a lot less overpowering if we just got rid of the exaggerated claims some people make about what is actually possible.
For example, I made a long-desired radiant scimitar for my warrior. It has:
undead slayer
SSI 30%
HML 43%
HLL 28%
DI 40%

Ideally, to be classed as 'uber', it would have had more damage, the max being 50, and more life leech. But
That's all I could fit into my 500 weight allowance.

All magic loot, no matter what monster it comes off, is now useful. There's no such thing as 'junk' magic items now, they're all potential magic residue or enchanted essence. This expansion, more than any other, has made things useful. Heck they even put in a use for beeswax! Though not, I admit, in imbuing.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Actually I have, its relatively easy to gather arcanic runestones with the right char and skill build.

I didn't need to read any further than this to know that you're 100% full of ****. I have the right char and skill build that you reference, and it still takes hours upon hours of farming to get them.

Please go peddle your BS elsewhere, no one here is interested.

 

[Anakena]

The ring described by the OP is unimbuable. Please be aware of your facts before you try to support someone elses false claims. Thank you.

50 EP = 200
15 DCI = 110
FC 1 = 140
FCR 3 = 110?

200 + 110 + 140 + 110 = 560/500

Comprende?

Well dude, I didn't check the property weight because it had no point for what I wanted to say. I don't support anyone's false claims (don't know where you read that one?). I just wanted to say that crying about how imbuing is overpowered because some powerful items are coming out has no point. It is on the long term that one will see if imbuing is or isn't overpowered. Capito?

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

The ring described by the OP is unimbuable. Please be aware of your facts before you try to support someone elses false claims. Thank you.

50 EP = 200
15 DCI = 110
FC 1 = 140
FCR 3 = 110?

200 + 110 + 140 + 110 = 560/500

Comprende?

Well dude, I didn't check the property weight because it had no point for what I wanted to say. I don't support anyone's false claims (don't know where you read that one?). I just wanted to say that crying about how imbuing is overpowered because some powerful items are coming out has no point. It is on the long term that one will see if imbuing is or isn't overpowered. Capito?

No...you didnt check the property weight because you thought you knew more than you actually did. I called you on it.

Crying about imbuing? Please reflect back on your previous posts, where you genuinely support one of those people crying.

Long term? The effects are already here...the expansion has been out for over a month. Just what is the long term to you? Ten years or until you are right?

No...no capito...tienes muy loco...muy loco en cabeza.

 

[Picus of Napa]

It's clear that this is a heated topic but in the end I think we all can agree that Runic made items still take the day and imbued items, while customizable, can have a weakness.

That said this skill clears anyones reasons for being left behind in the item race. I made a imbuer so anyone else can also. All of the items I have made could and can be made over and over again save for bows that have been enhanced to a faster SSI and this is good.

Some one said that this has made the average monster to easy due to the higher level of weapons out and I would agree. There is no reason anyone cannot make a sampire with near perfect weapons for tanking almost any mob.

 

[mjolnir131]

Imbuing would seem a lot less overpowering if we just got rid of the exaggerated claims some people make about what is actually possible.
For example, I made a long-desired radiant scimitar for my warrior. It has:
undead slayer
SSI 30%
HML 43%
HLL 28%
DI 40%

Ideally, to be classed as 'uber', it would have had more damage, the max being 50, and more life leech. But
That's all I could fit into my 500 weight allowance.

All magic loot, no matter what monster it comes off, is now useful. There's no such thing as 'junk' magic items now, they're all potential magic residue or enchanted essence. This expansion, more than any other, has made things useful. Heck they even put in a use for beeswax! Though not, I admit, in imbuing.

Exactly! you get a better class of average weapon. that is an OK weapon barley gets to nice range. This is why imbue needs a 100-120 point bump, if as they claim it's suppose to level the playing field.

 

[legendsguy]

peerless ingreds are near worthless anymore and those come from -peerless-. give it a couple months--heck, even a couple years--and imbuing ingreds will FLOOD the market. is this a good thing, i dunno. just sayin'.

 

[Fink]

IF you get lucky. That "if" could be 10, 50, 100 runic tools down the road. How much time is that for the average player

It's more a question of when than if. We've all seen godly runic items, they do exist. It was just a matter of time before these started to accumulate, even as slim as the chances may be. Improbable doesn't mean impossible. And they don't break, so we'll only see more of them in the long run.

You can't ever imbue something as good as the best runic gear, or there'd be no point to runics. You can't always get the ideal piece from runics, or there'd be no point to imbuing. I think each system has its pros and cons and there's balance there.

 

[Theo_GL]

just throwing it out there in regards to this imbuing skill

now that weve been 1-1/2 months in the results of 120 imbuing are showing up

50 ep ecru rings with 1/3 and 15 dci

kryss's with 50 hit lightning hld hla 40 di.

bokuto's with perfect killer attributes

u name it.

these things are powdered upto 255 so they will last for a good long time.

in my opinion these items should be un insurable at the least, especiallly in a fel ruleset.

i dont know about you but it looks out of control to me.

I have thought this about imbuing since day 1. It has essentially obsoleted much of the gear people have today - granted some artifacts CANNOT be replicated with imbuing so they still have value.

However, in general - high end to very high end goods are possible to be created at will. Granted ingredients are sometimes hard to obtain that will keep the flow of it reduced (think peerless ingredients of the past and recipes) - but overall - you can pretty much toss 90% of your existing weapons, 50% of your existing armor and 90% of your stash of jewels.

The key with imbuing is knowing the mods you want and then finding an item that has the hardest ones already on it and just imbuing in the easy ones.

For example - the ingredients for Spell Channel is not easy to get and I don't even think you can imbue SC no penalty because they are replaceable mods. However, use a Dull Copper runic to make a sc no penalty 40% DI item and imbue lightning and HLD on it. Now making max mods one is not easy given ingredients and skill - but dropping down fireball to 44% instead of 50% is very easy and doesn't even take rare ingredients. Making a SC no penalty kryss with 44% fireball and 44% HLD and 40% DI is using a dc runic or two and some very easy ingredients.

The ingredient list for a 1/3 Tame 15 LRC 20 ring is pretty crazy - but take an existing 1/3 ring with no mods and add 13 tame and 18 lrc and its hardly any ingredients at all.

If nothing else - i've made mad cash selling low end ruinics and I've been able to unravel most of my armor/jewel/weapon stash.

The only advantage of non-imbued stuff is you can powder/repair it infinitely. However, with good management of a 255 durability imbued item - it will last at least a year or more and by then you'll have the ingredients to make another.

 

[mjolnir131]

I have thought this about imbuing since day 1. It has essentially obsoleted much of the gear people have today - granted some artifacts CANNOT be replicated with imbuing so they still have value.

However, in general - high end to very high end goods are possible to be created at will. Granted ingredients are sometimes hard to obtain that will keep the flow of it reduced (think peerless ingredients of the past and recipes) - but overall - you can pretty much toss 90% of your existing weapons, 50% of your existing armor and 90% of your stash of jewels.

The key with imbuing is knowing the mods you want and then finding an item that has the hardest ones already on it and just imbuing in the easy ones.

For example - the ingredients for Spell Channel is not easy to get and I don't even think you can imbue SC no penalty because they are replaceable mods. However, use a Dull Copper runic to make a sc no penalty 40% DI item and imbue lightning and HLD on it. Now making max mods one is not easy given ingredients and skill - but dropping down fireball to 44% instead of 50% is very easy and doesn't even take rare ingredients. Making a SC no penalty kryss with 44% fireball and 44% HLD and 40% DI is using a dc runic or two and some very easy ingredients.

The ingredient list for a 1/3 Tame 15 LRC 20 ring is pretty crazy - but take an existing 1/3 ring with no mods and add 13 tame and 18 lrc and its hardly any ingredients at all.

If nothing else - i've made mad cash selling low end ruinics and I've been able to unravel most of my armor/jewel/weapon stash.

The only advantage of non-imbued stuff is you can powder/repair it infinitely. However, with good management of a 255 durability imbued item - it will last at least a year or more and by then you'll have the ingredients to make another.

Do you read ? or are you just wanting to go along with the overpower/everything old is crap myth? pick 2 items with say 13 dci = 26 not 30 and there is a big diffenace between those two levels and yes you can get a 255 item to last a whole year if you don't use it otherwise espacally right now a few weeks is about tops

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

Exactly! you get a better class of average weapon. that is an OK weapon barley gets to nice range. This is why imbue needs a 100-120 point bump, if as they claim it's suppose to level the playing field.

Ummm...which team are you playing for? Things are fine where they are now (for humans and elves)

 

[Splup]

My bad it was 20% LRC not 50% EP. On a side note, you can easily make that ring with 25% EP and the same on bracers.

Regardless, its relatively easy to get max resists, max hci/dci, fcr/fc, EP, and a variety of hp/mana regen/increase with imbuing. A LOT easier than trying to farm runics and get lucky.

Soo... Why is that 20 LRC 1/3 DCI 15 ring so uber and overpowered?

Damn it doesnt give even a relic if you unravel it... rolleyes:

But anyways... I like imbuing. Instead of talking about nerfing imbuing, we should be talking what should be done to Runics.

I use spined runics to make MR 2 pieces etc. But barbed runics rly seem bit waste atm.

Mage armor taking one property slot makes making metal armor now again useless... Just make all armor meddable or give metal some real bonus.

 

[Lynk]

I am not a PvPer, so go ahead and flame away, but....

It seems that most PvPers has complained that AoS ruined PvP because "PvP used to be about skill, but now its about who can get the best items"

Now, the argument has become "Embuing has ruined the game because now everyone can get a 'perfect' suit".

It seems to me that if everyone has the "perfect suit", that it all comes back to skill and matching your template strengths against their template weaknesses.

For someone that doesn't PvP you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Imbuing is great. I had nice items before, but now more people can get into the fights, which is what its all about.

I will say though, some of the templates that I've been able to create with imbued jewels are a little rediculous and skill increase with imbuing was poorly implemented.

 

[Gowron]

Please stop talking. If you had some semblance of a clue you would realize that imbuing takes time and effort. I spent 4 hours *preparing* items to be imbued to make a new suit for a guildie...and that time does not include resources for imbuing. All in all the three items I imbued would take roughly 10 hours plus of resource gathering to accomplish...that is on top of my 4 hours spent preparing the items and item template.

That is 14 hours...and I figure my time is worth $20 per. That is $280 bucks, or 560 million. Do you understand the flaw in your logic?

It takes time to get runics too, and guess what, you can't hand tailor runic items. rolleyes: Please cry more to someone who actually gives a damn.

If you truly don't give a damn as you claim, why do you keep responding with your obtuse drivvel?

 

[red sky]

Some people may have used RL money for stuff, but what about the people who did BoD's for years to have a chance to get a runic tool, and then have a chance to make some decent armor to use? Or weapon or farmed bracelets for that perfect bracelet?

Imbuing slaps them in the face, and since it brings you closer to these people who work hard for what they have, you're fine with it? I don't have great gear on my toons, but I at least respect those who take the time to get runics and materials and make their gear.

You must be in the same boat as the guy who bought 150 valorite hammers on Pac and forgot to lock them down when he went to bed. Imagine all the years it took to get those valorite hammers. Geeze....

 

[olduofan]

I think not...

Many of the players in game have a family, and a life. There are many players who cannot put hours and millions into crafting the perfect stuff. With faction arties and imbuing, more people get to play.

Overpowered? You do know that barbed kits and runics produce items of above 500 intensity right?

exactly

 

[Abies Aduro]

Further to that, the kind of items that are being created by imbuing are too powerful for ANYONE to have, let alone complete nubs that dont deserve them.

All imbuing has done is make the game more item based and less skill based (as if it needed to get worse!!).[/QUOTE]

do u realize u sound like a complete idiot... dont deserve y does anyone in uo deserve anything a 1st time playing nub or 12 year vet

what happened u died for the first time since AOS came out boo hoo everyone should be able to pvp just cause u have more money and time doesnt mean u should dominate all of fel while a new player has no chance to even bring u down to half health

oh and i only have one imbued piece on my character and its his wep

 

[onthefifty]

well this thread elicited some strong responses for sure.

i agree with the idea that imbuing levels the playing field. not every player has the time or resources to come by val hammers, so if farming up the needed ingredients to make what you need is all it takes, i'd say to that regard the playing field levels out.

i do think that imbuing while having the capacity to level the field will set the bar higher on the game being item dependent as you can now craft a ring, suit piece or weapon with no throwaway skills. so over time as more imbued items come into the game (were less than 2 months into this) you will probably see much more in the way of godly items being worn and/or used.
but at least they are consumable.

I will say that it looks as if people are having fun with it though. Our guild has gone on many hunts to help our guildmate 120 it and since than to get him the ingredients he needs. he is sort of like the guild santa claus at the moment.

Again I'm sorry about posting the wrong ring attributes in my initial post but the point was to get a cognizant discussion on how the skill is going thus far.

Thanks.

 

[Aristillus]

However, in general - high end to very high end goods are possible to be created at will. Granted ingredients are sometimes hard to obtain that will keep the flow of it reduced (think peerless ingredients of the past and recipes) - but overall - you can pretty much toss 90% of your existing weapons, 50% of your existing armor and 90% of your stash of jewels.

For example - the ingredients for Spell Channel is not easy to get and I don't even think you can imbue SC no penalty because they are replaceable mods. However, use a Dull Copper runic to make a sc no penalty 40% DI item and imbue lightning and HLD on it. Now making max mods one is not easy given ingredients and skill - but dropping down fireball to 44% instead of 50% is very easy and doesn't even take rare ingredients. Making a SC no penalty kryss with 44% fireball and 44% HLD and 40% DI is using a dc runic or two and some very easy ingredients.

The only advantage of non-imbued stuff is you can powder/repair it infinitely. However, with good management of a 255 durability imbued item - it will last at least a year or more and by then you'll have the ingredients to make another.

And here again is one of the big problems with people and imbuing, incorrect information.

That weapon cannot be made with imbuing.

Spell channeling: 100 weight
No FC penalty: 140
Hit fire ball 44% 123
HLD 44% 114
DI 40% 80

Total weight 557

And the ingredient needed for spell channeling is not hard to get at all, it comes from silver serpents in Ter Mur and there is no shortage of those. Where as other ingredients are much more difficult to come by due to the fact they spawn in the cavern of the discarded. In the cavern of the discarded you don't get to choose what creature to hunt to get the exact ingredients you need.

And if you are throwing out your gear now because of imbuing your gear was not that great to begin with.

Imbued armor is just ok compared to high end runic armor.
Imbued weapons are good at best.
Imbued jewelry is the best part about the new system, but there is still non imbued jewels out there that are better.

 

[Theo_GL]

Do you read ? or are you just wanting to go along with the overpower/everything old is crap myth? pick 2 items with say 13 dci = 26 not 30 and there is a big diffenace between those two levels and yes you can get a 255 item to last a whole year if you don't use it otherwise espacally right now a few weeks is about tops

BS mjolnir. I have weapons I powdered to 255 on my dexer and I haven't had to repowder in years.

They also fixed the durability drain with the last publish. Things are much better again.

Unless you use your weapon to 0/255 and then watch it suck down to 0/254 0/253 etc - you can go to 10/255 repair.....10/255 repair and go on for months.

Please take one weapon. Powder to 255. Go hunt. Always repair with 120 smith before it hits 0 but not more than 25 and then report back in a month. I guarantee it will STILL be 220/220 or better.

 

[Theo_GL]

Do you read ? or are you just wanting to go along with the overpower/everything old is crap myth? pick 2 items with say 13 dci = 26 not 30 and there is a big diffenace between those two levels and yes you can get a 255 item to last a whole year if you don't use it otherwise espacally right now a few weeks is about tops

And in case your math is bad 26 vs 30 is 4%. Thats hardly a big difference compared to the materials used to make it 30% vs 26%. I can churn out 90% intensity items all day long without needing anything but magic essance, a dc runic and gems.

This is spoken by someone who probably use to go ape poo poo over 40% DI weapons back when 20% was the norm.

I used to laugh when people would pay millions for a 40% DI weapon. It used to sound really good - but when they realized it was base dmg and only changed the amt dealt by 1 or 2 pts compared to 20% DI - they realized they wasted millions.

The funniest thing about UO is it is a game that is littered with math equations and it is mainly played by a population whom are not very good at math.

 

[Black Majick]

Imbueing is just fine. Nuff said. The main people who do nt like are the ones whos 500m dollar suit is losing value. I know people who have those nice suits as well who guess what. They are tweaking them with imbued items to make them a bit better. Again I say....LEAVE IMBUEING ALONE!!!!!

 

[Scarst]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy

(had to be done you said jumping the shark)

 

[Smokin]

I really do not understand peoples logic, I mean having the ability to make good items is a good thing. No more I can't compete arguments and what not, Heck I wish they come out with this when ML came or AoS I think maybe a lot of people might not have quit. Some might come back but most have started investing time in another game or maybe life.

 

[Pawain]

When I see Restroom Cowboy complain about the overpowered imbued items, I would take notice.

Not one poster here can show a screenshot of the supposed overpowered item. They must not be that abundant.

If Connor says it is difficult to get an item, I trust his opinion.

Hawkeye Pike has an excellent response.

 

[maroite]

I didn't need to read any further than this to know that you're 100% full of ****. I have the right char and skill build that you reference, and it still takes hours upon hours of farming to get them.

Please go peddle your BS elsewhere, no one here is interested.

I killed rats in the Caverns last night for about 30 mins just to test my theory and got 6 rune stones and 4 pieces of abyssal cloth, along with 2 or 3 crys tallized black rock and 5 or so balance essence.

Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean others can't. You can say its BS all you want, but thats what I did last night. That was with the plague rat spawn being broke and other people killing rats as well.rolleyes:

 

[Abies Aduro]

bs yo thats all i have to say

 

[They Call Me Al]

How exactly does one "jump the shark". What does this even mean?! I believe the more common and more widely known expression is "dropping the ball". Balls can be dropped. Jumping sharks on the other hand, Leaves me utterly confused.

 

[Smokin]

How exactly does one "jump the shark". What does this even mean?! I believe the more common and more widely known expression is "dropping the ball". Balls can be dropped. Jumping sharks on the other hand, Leaves me utterly confused.

And they call you Al, my lord you must be young I guess.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

I killed rats in the Caverns last night for about 30 mins just to test my theory and got 6 rune stones and 4 pieces of abyssal cloth, along with 2 or 3 crys tallized black rock and 5 or so balance essence.

Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean others can't. You can say its BS all you want, but thats what I did last night. That was with the plague rat spawn being broke and other people killing rats as well.rolleyes:

I have already debunked you twice...do you think anyone believes you now? I spent an hour in there myself last night and didnt get squat. So go ahead, tell more tall tales pinocchio.

 

[Fink]

How exactly does one "jump the shark". What does this even mean?! I believe the more common and more widely known expression is "dropping the ball". Balls can be dropped. Jumping sharks on the other hand, Leaves me utterly confused.

Jumping The Shark

 

[Dermott of LS]

...

To be fair, they HAVE recently upped the drop rate of ingredients in the Ratman area. I've spent the past few nights down there and have come out with a good batch of stuff... however, each spawn round takes 30-45 minutes, and even then, to do a full set of items, will take much more than "about 30 minutes". While I can see him getting what he claims in a couple hours' worth, 30 minutes I have to question.

Also either he got REALLY lucky with the RNG, is full of crap, or I've been very UNLUCKY with the RNG in getting that much cloth in a 30 minute timespan as the past few days' I have spent several hours down there and gotten ONE cloth. Seems that for a while the cloth was doing fine and now it's dried up (which figures as I need ONE MORE to do what I want to do with it... GRRR!)

All of this is anecdotal anyway and means NOTHING to the argument at hand.

It all comes back to the simple fact that Imbuing is FINE.

 

[maroite]

I have already debunked you twice...do you think anyone believes you now? I spent an hour in there myself last night and didnt get squat. So go ahead, tell more tall tales pinocchio.

You just debunked yourself.

Why? Because I said orange and you said apple and neither one of us gave any proof. So why don't YOU tell more tales. Or just continue to be an insulting little forum troll whos only line in life is to insult others on a forum. rolleyes:

Maybe, the game has developed a form of AI which doesn't give loot to asshats? Or maybe your karma is so low from being one to others on this forum that you are finally feeling the effects. Justice served by the RNG? I guess some good can come of the RNG.

...

To be fair, they HAVE recently upped the drop rate of ingredients in the Ratman area. I've spent the past few nights down there and have come out with a good batch of stuff... however, each spawn round takes 30-45 minutes, and even then, to do a full set of items, will take much more than "about 30 minutes". While I can see him getting what he claims in a couple hours' worth, 30 minutes I have to question.

Also either he got REALLY lucky with the RNG, is full of crap, or I've been very UNLUCKY with the RNG in getting that much cloth in a 30 minute timespan as the past few days' I have spent several hours down there and gotten ONE cloth. Seems that for a while the cloth was doing fine and now it's dried up (which figures as I need ONE MORE to do what I want to do with it... GRRR!)

All of this is anecdotal anyway and means NOTHING to the argument at hand.

It all comes back to the simple fact that Imbuing is FINE.

I did one of the henchrat spawns and got what I listed. ONE spawn. And what I got is average for my runs. Whether or not you believe me is no concern of mine.

You can continue to insult me and call me a lair, but the only thing it does is make you look like an ass.

People on stratics come in waves, sometimes the wave is old and crusty and feels because their post count is high, and someone elses is low they're automatically right, and anything the "new" comer says is a lie.

 

[Petra Fyde]

Can we leave out the name calling please?

There's two ways of looking at this. Yes you can go to the rat spawn and come out with a bag full of items, maybe 12 or so in an hour - 2 of this, 3 of that, 3 of another. But. Each imbue takes 10 of a particular item, so getting the right quantity of the right ingredient can, and does, take several hours. - unless you want to make a balanced bow that is.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

You can continue to insult me and call me a lair, but the only thing it does is make you look like an ass.

People on stratics come in waves, sometimes the wave is old and crusty and feels because their post count is high, and someone elses is low they're automatically right, and anything the "new" comer says is a lie.

I didnt insult you, you were posting drivel and I called you on it. Second, I have been around this community since the days where your account was tied to your forum name. I dont blame you for being upset...I might be upset too if someone debunked my false claims to all of U Hall. So have a coke and a smile...thanks.

 

[mjolnir131]

I killed rats in the Caverns last night for about 30 mins just to test my theory and got 6 rune stones and 4 pieces of abyssal cloth, along with 2 or 3 crys tallized black rock and 5 or so balance essence.

Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean others can't. You can say its BS all you want, but thats what I did last night. That was with the plague rat spawn being broke and other people killing rats as well.rolleyes:

What a waste what you needed to collet is Turquoise and Tourmaline,yes it takes time to collect the right amont something you have to redo over and over. I'm sorry your monopoly of power has been reduced that is the only explantion i can think that make you so indegent.imbue if anything is underpowered.

On most gold runics i get 1-3 usable weapons that you can in no way make with imbue, if you got lucky you might have another 3 or 4 that can be doctored up to near that level but at that point they will last maybe 6 months if you only hunt on weekends or something and gold only gets to 75% max.So little man you can roll your eyes all you want your the only one who if full of bovine byproduct.

I'm sorry this change has cut your power base but it has made the game better for all not just a few.

 

[mjolnir131]

When did happy days jump the shark?

 

[LordDrago]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Ken of Napa]

How exactly does one "jump the shark". What does this even mean?! I believe the more common and more widely known expression is "dropping the ball". Balls can be dropped. Jumping sharks on the other hand, Leaves me utterly confused.

And they call you Al, my lord you must be young I guess.

LoL !! I was wondering the same thing and nobody has called me young, for at least (actually over) 30 years

I figured it was some new term that a younggin would understand.
rolleyes:

Thanks for the link Fink. I even remember seeing that episode, just never heard that phrase before

 

[Surgeries]

The sky is falling
Oops I am just getting taller

That is one great quote.

You wouldn't mind if I used that, would you?

I really really like it.