Goodbye all

[MissEcho]

Well after 20 odd years I have finally closed all accounts, transferred/sold my Castles and packed over 9000 items.

Has been fun, but given 5 yrs ago New Legacy was 'coming soon' the fact it is still not 'live' makes me thankful I didn't hold my breath! That was one of the reasons I quit playing 2 yrs back as I was sick to death of the same rinse repeat invasions 'of the (insert name here)' Krampus, trick or treat, artisan festival the list goes on. Most were fun the first, second and maybe third times round but after 10 yrs NOT SO MUCH. All dev effort seemed to be going to a shard that for those in my part of world will find really difficult to play on given lag so I had zero interest in that not to mention I don't do GOING BACKWARDS which is what this retrograde shard seems to be. For those of you into it I wish you good times, but it is not for me.

I haven't played much in the past two yrs anyways, as moved house real life to Canberra, the capital of Australia, and have been super busy doing lot more real life stuff going to galleries, theatre, markets, exhibitions and even teaching myself mosaics. I have also been playing 7 days to die (7dtd), which is coming out of Alpha 21 around 21st of June (version 1) so lots of new stuff happening there, and for $35 ONE time payment is much better value at that! (although the price goes up once it leaves Alpha in a week or so! but not for those already playing). It has been fun playing a game where bugs get fixed instantly and the developers take the time to really interact with the player base, plus which has a solid modding community and the ability for players to customise their game to how they want it, either solo, team or multiplayer servers both PVE and PVP.

Oh and btw, still waiting for my prize for winning the 16th anniversary Cultural Centre design, Mesanna was supposed to build it on Atlantic but yet again, never happened, I think 'coming soon' doesn't even apply any more. Apparently she found it too hard to build so gave up.

But anyways I had fun and met tons of great people some who progressed to real life meet ups who I will remain in touch with. The money runs out on all my accounts by 30 June, although all are now officially closed. Oh and NONE of places will be going IDOC accept one on Siege, figured I would let them fight over the meagre spoils in that one lot lol.

Have fun all.

regards




MissE xxx

 

[Tjalle]

Sorry to see you go. I wish you all the best!

 

[mihali]

GL to you, and also wish you the best.
Also I wonder if you played the old version of client in UO?

I agree things get to be rote in a 23 year old game, and memories and all reminiscing is fine and dandy, but same old same old can wear you down. You found a shoot them up nice game with good team of Devs
Lots of us do not like the shoot them up games, and there are lots of them, but are more into the medieval - fantasy MMORG.

Ergo: I discovered a new game that now to my opinion has awesome modifiable graphics, and great functional (finally!!) macros, decent content, and also good bunch (mostly) of folks!

Name of the game? UO with enhanced client!! Shockingly!

It escaped my radar for years, and shrouded by all the negative comments about it and its graphics etc. It is a completely new game for me, and things work, like targeting, auto-targeting and 100's more upgrades to the vintage CC.
It added a little more complexity in terms of learning set up macros etc. but was worth it massively. If you delve back to UO as EJ or F2P sometime, try EC also. You may be surprised.
GL to you and I hope all is well.

 

[skett]

Hope you Find good days ahead, Take care and be well

 

[MissEcho]

@mihali, think I know a bit about the EC seeing as I wrote one of the initial guides for it back when it was first implemented which I wrote when it was in closed beta Prior to that I used the 3d client and then used the KR client (which I also wrote a guide for when it was on UOwiki and then UOGuide). The ONLY time I played the classic client was between the KR client and the EC as we were given no choice. The EC came with the Sygian Abyss and was referred to as the SA client back then and then had a reiteration as the EC later on (can't remember but there was a bit of a revamp) so the original Enhanced Client changed a little bit (slight graphic on the UI, map waypoints, minor tweaking etc) even so the majority of it is still as it was back then SA Client. As you see not much has changed, so that is just another reason to leave, that was written in 2009, 15 years ago, so you would think by now we would of had lots and lots of improvements to it but as with all things UO it seems it stagnates never to be looked at again.

Btw 7dtd is NOT a shoot em up game. I would say it is more scavenging, character development, base building, questing, crafting, game. You kill zombies, instead of dragons etc but certainly nothing like a shoot em up. You start naked and need to gather resources to to be able to build a base or convert an existing dwelling into some kind of structure to defend yourself and keep you safe before the first blood moon hits and the zombies intensify. It gets harder as the game progresses with zombies also getting harder. As for base building it is one of the BEST construction games I have ever played and the possibilities are endless. There are certainly some really creative people out there building some fantastic bases and horde bases. The pics below are some of my earlier efforts, as you see you also need to farm to feed yourself So no, not a shoot em up, although that can be a part of it if you want it to be.

Cheers MissE.

 

[BeaIank]

Hasta luego.
Safe travels and enjoy the next step of your adventures.

 

[Veldrane]

Having made a similar decision recently, I completely understand where you are coming from. Take care and good luck. I'm sure certain cheerleaders will be along shortly to explain how its not UO but your expectations that are the problem.

 

[mihali]

@mihali, think I know a bit about the EC seeing as I wrote one of the initial guides for it back when it was first implemented which I wrote when it was in closed beta Prior to that I used the 3d client and then used the KR client (which I also wrote a guide for when it was on UOwiki and then UOGuide). The ONLY time I played the classic client was between the KR client and the EC as we were given no choice. The EC came with the Sygian Abyss and was referred to as the SA client back then and then had a reiteration as the EC later on (can't remember but there was a bit of a revamp) so the original Enhanced Client changed a little bit (slight graphic on the UI, map waypoints, minor tweaking etc) even so the majority of it is still as it was back then SA Client. As you see not much has changed, so that is just another reason to leave, that was written in 2009, 15 years ago, so you would think by now we would of had lots and lots of improvements to it but as with all things UO it seems it stagnates never to be looked at again.

Btw 7dtd is NOT a shoot em up game. I would say it is more scavenging, character development, base building, questing, crafting, game. You kill zombies, instead of dragons etc but certainly nothing like a shoot em up. You start naked and need to gather resources to to be able to build a base or convert an existing dwelling into some kind of structure to defend yourself and keep you safe before the first blood moon hits and the zombies intensify. It gets harder as the game progresses with zombies also getting harder. As for base building it is one of the BEST construction games I have ever played and the possibilities are endless. There are certainly some really creative people out there building some fantastic bases and horde bases. The pics below are some of my earlier efforts, as you see you also need to farm to feed yourself So no, not a shoot em up, although that can be a part of it if you want it to be.

Cheers MissE.

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Appreciate the info!
I just scratched the surface with EC not long ago, and I am all excited about it as you suspect. For me it is with beautiful functionality, and graphics not to my dislike, including spell animations etc.
By the way I am still earning about it. I still need to learn a lot, including using agents, and sorting container contents etc. If you are aware of some decent resources I would really appreciate it. So far I have had to just play around trial and error with commands = ec macros etc, and it has been mindblowing to see the results. In summary it feels like I have been playing UO with my hands tighed behind my back for years. With EC easements and perks things are a lot different. Its a new game for me!
Ty in advance and GL to you!

 

[Lord Frodo]

Very sad to see you leave, fair winds and following seas.

 

[Spartan]

I left several months ago and have been hanging here a bit. Accounts are EJ now, but I have no wish to re-sub or even log in.

Best of wishes for your future. It's amazing how much stuff is in the RL when you look! <chuckle>

 

[Deimos]

Don't forget you can always try freeshards, there's a lot out there, some are professionally run with more systems and features than official.
I stopped playing sometime back and didn't really have any interest as I run a 32 inch monitor and the 2D client is freaking tiny on that.
But then I came across the ClassicUO client, why Broadsword can't make clients like this I'll never know, you can do so much with it that you can't do on the official client, like huge resolutions and zoom levels.
And it has that smooth motion stuff, so everything is fluid, was a bit strange at first, but it's nice when you get used to it.

 

[mihali]

Hav

Don't forget you can always try freeshards, there's a lot out there, some are professionally run with more systems and features than official.
I stopped playing sometime back and didn't really have any interest as I run a 32 inch monitor and the 2D client is freaking tiny on that.
But then I came across the ClassicUO client, why Broadsword can't make clients like this I'll never know, you can do so much with it that you can't do on the official client, like huge resolutions and zoom levels.
And it has that smooth motion stuff, so everything is fluid, was a bit strange at first, but it's nice when you get used to it.

Have you tried EC with CC imaging for characters?

 

[Anon McDougle]

Hav

Have you tried EC with CC imaging for characters?

How does this work

 

[mihali]

How does this work

It is in the character options. Not on game right now.

 

[Anon McDougle]

It is in the character options. Not on game right now.

I remember now !

 

[HippoRedux]

Fare thee well!

 

[Omnicron]

No one has said it? Really? Can I have your stuff?

 

[Maith Ceol]

@mihali, think I know a bit about the EC seeing as I wrote one of the initial guides for it back when it was first implemented which I wrote when it was in closed beta Prior to that I used the 3d client and then used the KR client (which I also wrote a guide for when it was on UOwiki and then UOGuide). The ONLY time I played the classic client was between the KR client and the EC as we were given no choice. The EC came with the Sygian Abyss and was referred to as the SA client back then and then had a reiteration as the EC later on (can't remember but there was a bit of a revamp) so the original Enhanced Client changed a little bit (slight graphic on the UI, map waypoints, minor tweaking etc) even so the majority of it is still as it was back then SA Client. As you see not much has changed, so that is just another reason to leave, that was written in 2009, 15 years ago, so you would think by now we would of had lots and lots of improvements to it but as with all things UO it seems it stagnates never to be looked at again.

Btw 7dtd is NOT a shoot em up game. I would say it is more scavenging, character development, base building, questing, crafting, game. You kill zombies, instead of dragons etc but certainly nothing like a shoot em up. You start naked and need to gather resources to to be able to build a base or convert an existing dwelling into some kind of structure to defend yourself and keep you safe before the first blood moon hits and the zombies intensify. It gets harder as the game progresses with zombies also getting harder. As for base building it is one of the BEST construction games I have ever played and the possibilities are endless. There are certainly some really creative people out there building some fantastic bases and horde bases. The pics below are some of my earlier efforts, as you see you also need to farm to feed yourself So no, not a shoot em up, although that can be a part of it if you want it to be.

Cheers MissE.

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I'm a big digger in 7dtd. I tried building UP for the zombie attack but no matter how high I went, they still took me out. So, I dig all the way down and trap the path LOL. I also like to dig my way around town and trap those tunnels LOL!

 

[GarthGrey]

Just popped into say, you closed all of your accounts and packed 9000 items...which means you'll be back...They always come back.

 

[MissEcho]

Just popped into say, you closed all of your accounts and packed 9000 items...which means you'll be back...They always come back.

Actually naaa. I packed as i would be buggered to let the places go idoc and all the free loaders capitalize on my 20 yrs of work. I always swore when I left there was no way my places would go idoc, and they haven't. Handed off my main castle and luna shop to a mate, emptied and demolished another castle, sold my siege castle and demolished a keep there. While packing I made up a few boxes of items to give to friends, about 300 items each, and handed off 5 vet reward picks each to the two main allies I played with. You really can't justify the cost of UO these days in comparison to other games. Worked out it was costing me $20 per month per account Au dollars, so $720 per year for 3 accounts. Instead I paid $35 bucks two yrs ago for 7dtd (a one off payment) and frankly the devs in that game run rings round the UO staff. I really don't know what they do with the amount of money they must be getting. I think our subs go to supporting all manner of EA games and a fraction into UO. I have absolutely bugger all interest in playing New Lemon Legacy, as the ping at around 300 ms is just not worth it. The devs have given bugger all consideration to those not located in the USA with that particular farce.

Anyways, UO was the best game out and if it had the attention it deserved and fixing of the outright cheating maybe it would of retained my interest. But when you log in and see the latest new beaut event drop being advertised for sale at 7 platinum you really get that there is no hope for this game with the economy totally borked. The total erosion of the game started with shard shields, that was really the nail in the coffin for most of the small shards, until then the economies were reasonable. Once people started farming the small shards to ship stuff (event rewards, resources, vendor items) to Atlantic the whole remaining economy got destroyed.

It was kinda funny as I stopped actively playing around 2 yrs ago, yet the forums are still complaining about the exact same things that were on it back then. It is like nothing ever changes. For those of you who still enjoy it, all good. It just is not for me anymore, and New Lemon Legacy is just going backwards. I have never known any game to actively seek to try and go backwards in time.

 

[Deimos]

It was kinda funny as I stopped actively playing around 2 yrs ago, yet the forums are still complaining about the exact same things that were on it back then. It is like nothing ever changes. For those of you who still enjoy it, all good. It just is not for me anymore, and New Lemon Legacy is just going backwards. I have never known any game to actively seek to try and go backwards in time.

If the UO team actually spent their time and our money on the things WE, the paying customers requested, instead of blowing it all on things we never asked for, this game would be amazing.
But that trend has never changed in all the years we've been paying their salaries.

 

[mihali]

That is a lot of Bull crap.

First of all WE are not WE or one and only. We have one thousand and one different opinions as to what we want implemented, or what would be good for the game, some of us with not too unselfish reasons also.

Anyone can say unfair, unkind and FALSE statements. Falsitude does not bring good results or promote good spirits. I think they deserve more credit than given, for this ancient game with ancient code and changes thsy implemented.

THINK of this :
We wanted a revamp of Treasure Hunting, we got it, of sorts and with the limitations of code.
We wanted IDOC changes, and we got them, to try to limit the scammers success of grave-robbing of the old account stored stuff and plots.
We asked for PET revamp and we got it, and actually there were old players that re-subed on account of this.
We complained about the ATL gravitational force for items born in other shards, and we got the non-transferable items.
We asked for PVP changes and they happened, although PVP is the least tended to, and most neglected "specialty" most do not care about.
We asked changes for the player vendors for choice of consignment and guess what? They happened, as we asked.
We asked for a server that would have closeness to the "old" UO, and guess what? They have been working on it for some time now, and they even beta tested.
We asked for curbing of the cheaters and they are making an effort, strategically discouraging cheating, and redefining cheating.
We asked for mods many times and they happened within reason, bugs fixed.

Finally look at the current event and what the devs did: (If you play the game, actually it is hard to miss this)
-Bring players together, actually playing together by the drones to get stuff that is not "super" but ok, mostly get together such as:
-Void Pool revitalization, in shards that are actually populated. (Go to ATL and see for yourself).
-Bring people into the High Seas, with Shrouded sails, bump up fishing, SOS'ing, Pirate hunting.

 

[Andrasta]

Sorry to see you go Miss Echo. I wish you good fortune in your travels to new lands. I was a judge for that contest. Is this your entry below? Thank you for taking the time to enter. Your submission was very good and would have enhanced New Magincia greatly. Good Luck & Safe Journies!