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This thread is hilarious, i mean, yeah its a game, yeah you dont want hate language and racism an anything horribly offensive to take place. But really, you put thousands of different people from different backgrounds, empathy, morals, some people are just going to clash.
I was horrified that UO even implemented a global chat (and i rarely use it)
Teen rating and all that, most the people abusing global chat Are teens.
So lets be constructive. Lets think up some better wording the person in question could have gone about his "RP" with the dead corpse, still having the desired effect and meaning of "corpse"
I was horrified that UO even implemented a global chat (and i rarely use it)
Teen rating and all that, most the people abusing global chat Are teens.
So lets be constructive. Lets think up some better wording the person in question could have gone about his "RP" with the dead corpse, still having the desired effect and meaning of "corpse"
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Cloak&Dagger
Guest
And this refutes what I said how? If you wish to argue against my point then please prove how the use of a word in its right meaning is disorderly conduct. Certainly you took the time to bing it did you not? Certainly you learned that it is in context that such laws are enforced and as such you have not proved me wrong that I can legally use any word I wish, or illegally use every word.
Considering laws such as these are defined as offending someone around you, if you said any word I could instantly accuse you of offending me, as you have done in your previous post, so you are acting in a disorderly fashion. If you do not think you could beat such a charge in court, by defining proper English and hopefully by not having used words in a profound way then I have nothing else to offer you.
I won't continue this debate since it will only go in a circle, do have a wonderful day though.
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Cloak&Dagger
Guest
No such thing as a good choice of words. Context defines a word, yes this persons friend did use poor context as he did in fact mean it in the profound meaning, does not mean the word itself should be barred from all use. The word he used actually has a meaning, in all reality the meaning of the word in the manner that everyone thinks of it today derives from its real meaning and attached to the fact that women belonged to men and were being forcefully taken from them.
I generally agree with the word in question being against the rules as it really has been attached to a horrible thing, I just don't believe in "good choices of words" as all words have meanings which have nothing to do with being offensive.
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Yalp
Guest
Personally, I don't care what people speak to each other in private. But general chat is not a private channel, it's a community open mic. Like it or not, there are standards. If someone isn't courteous enough to know when their behavior has crossed the line and become socially unacceptable, then they should expect to be disciplined, like a child.
You misread the law. You can only be charged with disorderly conduct if your conduct is specifically meant to cause a fight/riot situation. The language itself is not against the law.
I didn't misread anything, thanks for trying.
Feel free to browse the numerous examples yourself.
People get charged for disorderly conduct when they verbally assault police officers all the time. While using foul language might not be against the law, how you use it matters. Most people with higher intellect don't sit and scream profanity. Sure, these are just words that society has given meaning to, but that doesn't make it more or less right to use them. Curse words are often used for the sake of hatred, and such words as ****, ****, or racially derogatory words don't belong in a video game or to be freely used elsewhere for any reason.
If you're the sort of soft sensitive infantile little snowflake that can't handle some cussing, that's cool. I don't judge.
If you're all that AND you're the sort of insecure self-righteous little twerp who's too good to just use profanity filters or ignore lists, then all I can say is this:
Have fun never being happy on the internet ever.
"I interacted with the general public and discovered that they don't share all my values! SKREE! SKREEEE! SOMEONE PUNISH THEM!"
If you're all that AND you're the sort of insecure self-righteous little twerp who's too good to just use profanity filters or ignore lists, then all I can say is this:
Have fun never being happy on the internet ever.
"I interacted with the general public and discovered that they don't share all my values! SKREE! SKREEEE! SOMEONE PUNISH THEM!"
Actually you may find this quite surprising but the last time I ran into a childish acting, foul mouthed, person in game I calmly asked them only one thing.... "How old are you?".....This thread is hilarious, i mean, yeah its a game, yeah you dont want hate language and racism an anything horribly offensive to take place. But really, you put thousands of different people from different backgrounds, empathy, morals, some people are just going to clash.
I was horrified that UO even implemented a global chat (and i rarely use it)
Teen rating and all that, most the people abusing global chat Are teens.
So lets be constructive. Lets think up some better wording the person in question could have gone about his "RP" with the dead corpse, still having the desired effect and meaning of "corpse"
Their reply... 35....
Go figure.
I'll say this I know several who "ought" to know better and you would think would be more well behaved... but for some reason or another folk online in-game seem to think that "anything goes"... and it's "Just a game" and doesn't matter.
However they fail to account for the fact this is an MMO.... NOT a single player game where whatever you say or do is "private". This is NOT private.... and what you say and do has a DIRECT effect on others. Not only does it effect those who see and hear you.... it also has a HUGE impact on how folk see and treat you. Act the child be treated like the child...
And add to that the fact that it's IMPOSSIBLE to know who just might be in Chat with you ..... it's very important to realize that there often times are young impressionable people playing who are often in the chat because they honestly might not know how NOT to be in the chat. And while YES it's a parents responsibility to know what their children are doing and all... It is NO excuse for lude behavior.... which has no place anywhere in my opinion nor does hateful racist remarks. And here we wonder what the heck is wrong with society anymore. Go figure.
If parents want to subject their kids to the adult world, it's their fault.
I think the entire premise of this thread is communication in a general chat system in TEEN rated game. I don't consider that Adult in rating.
The player's bring all age content to it. That's the subject of the OP.
Some people are reacting as if there are massing bannings for vulgar behavior.
IMO few people span profanity. Fewer get flagged or banned for it.
I really am suprised some people are projecting a screw you attitude about this.
I don't think anyone is watching chat reporting every single "violation" of the TEEN rating. I for one am not. If enough profane spamming is done I might report it. It seems evident people aren't reading the points that have been in this thread. Just overreacting. Hey! It's what uhall is all about! *Waves*
This isn't just some cussing.
In my vent channel, I curse it up just like the big boys. But I would never, ever use the term ****, or any racially derogatory word to anyone. The words "******", "***", "jew", "spic", etc does not ever need to be used in game or out.
Would you use these words in a group environment IRL? Absolutely not. You would automatically be looked down upon for using such language. While the internet may not be real life and have a layer of anonymity to it, it still doesn't make the usage of such language expectable or excusable.
How many times must it be stated that online content IS NOT RATED. The teen rating has no reflection on online interaction.
HERE is the License Agreement which covers the teen rating. Look in section 5g.
HERE are the Rules of Conduct which clearly state
There are more, but I think those three cover it.UO Rules of Conduct said:
Bottom line is that it is completely up to EA/Mythic to determine whether or not the words in their game are abusive, vulgar, etc....
I've always been against the victim having to leave the area, or mute the abuser. It's a public chat, why should the people who follow the rules be forced out? It would be like someone in a public park shouting vulgarities and the police leaving him alone and making everyone else leave.
Great discussion though. I applaud all for not going too far to get it locked. Nice that everyone can stick to the issue.
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DarkVoid
Guest
There are some words that are not appropriate for in-game "roleplay". The person who was banned really needs to stay away from any words that inflame other people. There is such a thing as a good choice of words, what matters is that this person will take the time to think his words through and properly choose the ones that won't irritate other players.Cloak‡1866946 said:
As I stated previously: If he can't or won't use good choices of words, then he can and will get banned.
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Coppelia
Guest
Americans and profanity filtering, a long story of hypocrisy.
Just an advice : if you can't use the **** word, use "surprise buttsex". It's hype.
Oh btw the rules of conducts were written in 1160 AC, when you could be banned for saying "scoundrel". The emote "*stares at [someone]*" was considered as offensant too. Hence the rule.
IRL I swear a bit, and a lot more if that shocks someone. I try to replace swear words by funnier words generally, but language is like cooking. Sometimes you need fine salt, sometimes you need coarse salt.
However I adapt my language to the person I'm talking to, and as I don't know the players behind the characters in UO, I stay rather soft by default.
A bit of etymology : profane means "outside of the temple" as opposed to "inside the temple" : what's sacred. So basically, everything that's not sacred is profane, and the word profanity to talk about swear words is quite ridiculous. But what can we do? This game is edited in a country where everybody knows what "F-word" means and it's ok to use that form, but saying the not-so-hidden word instead is absolutely outrageous.
Oh look at that smiley :
Do you think that random signs make it less rude? Doesn't everybody know what it means, and replaced it in their mind by what's considered offensant for them?
Hypocrisy again.
And finally, "****" isn't a swear word, it's a violent word proving that swear words and urban slang terms still have to learn from old but powerful words.
Just an advice : if you can't use the **** word, use "surprise buttsex". It's hype.
Oh btw the rules of conducts were written in 1160 AC, when you could be banned for saying "scoundrel". The emote "*stares at [someone]*" was considered as offensant too. Hence the rule.
IRL I swear a bit, and a lot more if that shocks someone. I try to replace swear words by funnier words generally, but language is like cooking. Sometimes you need fine salt, sometimes you need coarse salt.
However I adapt my language to the person I'm talking to, and as I don't know the players behind the characters in UO, I stay rather soft by default.
A bit of etymology : profane means "outside of the temple" as opposed to "inside the temple" : what's sacred. So basically, everything that's not sacred is profane, and the word profanity to talk about swear words is quite ridiculous. But what can we do? This game is edited in a country where everybody knows what "F-word" means and it's ok to use that form, but saying the not-so-hidden word instead is absolutely outrageous.
Oh look at that smiley :
Do you think that random signs make it less rude? Doesn't everybody know what it means, and replaced it in their mind by what's considered offensant for them?
Hypocrisy again.
And finally, "****" isn't a swear word, it's a violent word proving that swear words and urban slang terms still have to learn from old but powerful words.
That's why there is a MUTE feature. I'm sorry if you're too lazy to take advantage of it.
You just did! You said it right there!
If this forum used the same standards as UO itself, you'd be permabanned already. Remember, they don't use context or care WHY you said it.
Not so fast, buddy! You can't fool the almight censor by hiding your filthy words among all those other letters!
OMG! Im sooo Busted! I thought only the left handed color blind blessed with autism syndrome would detect my message!
I'm not worthy!
*bows deeply*
I hope I haven't offended anyone.
Serious? Please read again the example, a person SHOUTING in a PUBLIC place (which I pay to be in by the way) and I'm forced to take action instead of the offender??
And don't forget this very important point - I have to see whatever "it" is at least once to know that the person should be muted.
omg this thread is still going. My dad told me the other day about his daily commute to work. Right outside his center city building, theres a homeless lady there everyday who yells "FUUUCK YOOOOUUUU" at everyone who passes, while laughing crazily to herself.
Now, theres nothing he can do about this, so he just keeps walking, and goes into his building. He just doesnt decide to pick this spot to stop and drink a cup of coffee. And later he can tell others about the joys this daily greeter gives him
So, if your that worried about someone being offensive to you, jeez just leave the area like the tos says, or turn off that goddamn general chat. I dunno why so many are complaining about a feature that they dont have to use, and that wasnt even in the game a year ago. Make yer own channel if the kids potty mouths hurt your virgin ears.
Now, theres nothing he can do about this, so he just keeps walking, and goes into his building. He just doesnt decide to pick this spot to stop and drink a cup of coffee. And later he can tell others about the joys this daily greeter gives him
So, if your that worried about someone being offensive to you, jeez just leave the area like the tos says, or turn off that goddamn general chat. I dunno why so many are complaining about a feature that they dont have to use, and that wasnt even in the game a year ago. Make yer own channel if the kids potty mouths hurt your virgin ears.
I'm complaining because General Chat is a good feature for use for things like helping folk who need help like the young and new players (YES THERE ARE SOME OF THESE)... and it's also good for gathering folk for a circle in Brit as well as getting a party together to go do Corgal or something of that nature...
However it's spoiled by certain individuals who can't seem to keep themselves entertained unless they are being extremely offensive.
I don't like to be subjected to that sort of thing. I also fail to see why I should have to leave the chat while I'm there to assist and help because some clown wants to violate the ToS and nothing gets done about it. Honestly I see no reason why the rest of the community has to leave and suffer because some folk who obviously never made it out of grade-school or at least never matured beyond the grade-school mentality want to spoil things.
This is one of the major problems with UO now... decent folk leave because they are sick and tired of being subjected to and having to put up with those of the grade-school mentality and nothing being done about it.
Most folk have grown beyond that behavior... years ago.
However it's spoiled by certain individuals who can't seem to keep themselves entertained unless they are being extremely offensive.
I don't like to be subjected to that sort of thing. I also fail to see why I should have to leave the chat while I'm there to assist and help because some clown wants to violate the ToS and nothing gets done about it. Honestly I see no reason why the rest of the community has to leave and suffer because some folk who obviously never made it out of grade-school or at least never matured beyond the grade-school mentality want to spoil things.
This is one of the major problems with UO now... decent folk leave because they are sick and tired of being subjected to and having to put up with those of the grade-school mentality and nothing being done about it.
Most folk have grown beyond that behavior... years ago.
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Cloak&Dagger
Guest
Uhm, what do the rules of conduct or the License agreement have to do with the fact that online content is not rated or enforced by the ESRB? I mean sure EA can make any rules they want, but the Teen rating of the game does not force them to do anything of the sort. And generally for "harassment" you have to take action yourself, since EA dictates this as harassment then you would be required to take action before they do.
And to spam like crazy so all other conversation is impossible? I do not mind so much the trashy talk, because it does not affect me, however the things you are talking about do in fact get annoying, such as people spamming endlessly that they need someone at WBB or that Scalis is up at docks. And when I say endlessly, I mean they say 4-5 times before anyone can even respond. I don't mind people looking for help, or offering help, but there is no need to repeat the same thing ever 2-3 seconds, depending on how fast you can button mash.
Ok I am going to end this.
Under the RoC and the ToS. It clearly states EA/Mythic/Bio last word on inaproprate language/behavior in any form in the game of UO.
I personaly know 2 players who have lost their main accounts to foul language in the chat.
This just happened a few weeks back. Once an account is perma banned you can never get it back. This was the stand by the head of CS and EA.
You take the risk every time you use ANY inaproprate language in normal talk in game or the global chat. That is FACT not Fiction. If a GM or a Dev is on shard the Global chat is open for their viewing, logging, and dealing with the player(s).
The minute you start playing UO your in reality signing this document that you as the player abide by this. If you dont agree you dont own your account remember that. You are only a leaseor... meaning your have limited if any rights. No EA could care less that you pay them X amount of dollars a month to use that account.
Now if you have never read the ToS or RoC of UO I suguest you do. Its legaly binding to your play.
Under the RoC and the ToS. It clearly states EA/Mythic/Bio last word on inaproprate language/behavior in any form in the game of UO.
I personaly know 2 players who have lost their main accounts to foul language in the chat.
This just happened a few weeks back. Once an account is perma banned you can never get it back. This was the stand by the head of CS and EA.
You take the risk every time you use ANY inaproprate language in normal talk in game or the global chat. That is FACT not Fiction. If a GM or a Dev is on shard the Global chat is open for their viewing, logging, and dealing with the player(s).
The minute you start playing UO your in reality signing this document that you as the player abide by this. If you dont agree you dont own your account remember that. You are only a leaseor... meaning your have limited if any rights. No EA could care less that you pay them X amount of dollars a month to use that account.
Now if you have never read the ToS or RoC of UO I suguest you do. Its legaly binding to your play.
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Cloak&Dagger
Guest
Doesn't really end most of the debates. You are right, and of course no one is actually arguing that it is not against the ToS they are arguing it should not be, and people should get over it. I could care less either which way, but I do mostly agree that people should get over it most of the time.
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Cloak&Dagger
Guest
Might be so, but some people are very blatantly trying to disrupt people's play. This would be the only situation that I would have to disagree with you.
I shouldn't have to put them on ignore... and I seriously shouldn't have to leave the chat since... I'm not the one being offensive and violating the ToS.
The problem isn't the general chat system, it's the people who are abusing it by indulging in uncouth behaviour.
There should be some sort of test for children when they are young; testing such attributes as intelligence, compassion, honesty etc. If they fail they get thrown off a cliff. A twist on the Spartan method.
As long as ignorant, selfish and dishonest parents continue to raise the abhorrent pigs they pass off as children then the 'general chats' of the world will be spammed by these potty-mouthed pond dwellers.
General chat has been almost wholly beneficial to my own shard, but I sympathise with my fellow Sossarians whose eyes are afflicted by the keystrokes of these pieces of monkey-dung.
There should be some sort of test for children when they are young; testing such attributes as intelligence, compassion, honesty etc. If they fail they get thrown off a cliff. A twist on the Spartan method.
As long as ignorant, selfish and dishonest parents continue to raise the abhorrent pigs they pass off as children then the 'general chats' of the world will be spammed by these potty-mouthed pond dwellers.
General chat has been almost wholly beneficial to my own shard, but I sympathise with my fellow Sossarians whose eyes are afflicted by the keystrokes of these pieces of monkey-dung.
Words are given power by people, taking a negative word and changing the context in which it is used is an increasing trend. I agree completely about context.
PvP trash talk - "i'm gonna *Bannable word* you"
Fine, Ban them. But, What if its said in game between two guildmates who are good friends and use that term as if it were "pwned". Not Only that, but it wasn't in general chat, It was actually in game, and some Random player happens to walk by, take offense to it and Page on that person.
Friend Talking to another Friend - "Yeah, my (Family Member/Spouse) was "Bannable Word" as a child'
Gonna Perma-Ban Someone who has been playing the game for possibly 11 Years as they confide something in their online friend, because you find a word they use offensive.....
Also, Its called General Chat for a Reason. Make a new Chat Session and Call it "Trammy Land" (Funny, they created a new world to seperate the pvpers from everyone else). Certain Places have their "Norm". You don't go into a strip club and complain people are naked, You don't go to a construction yard and complain that everyone is Rude, Swears, and seems to get upset easily. Online games are filled with Lots of "vulgar" people, Don't believe me? Every online game I've played that you can have a map other people can draw on, there is Usually A vulgar object Drawn on it.
Unless you seperate yourself from them by
- Leaving General Chat/Starting your own
- Utilizing the "Filter" System.. <-- MAN wonder what that Does?
- Staying away from PvP. You have Tram/Ilshenar/Malas/Tokuno/SA STAY OUT OF FEL IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE TRASH TALK
PvP trash talk - "i'm gonna *Bannable word* you"
Fine, Ban them. But, What if its said in game between two guildmates who are good friends and use that term as if it were "pwned". Not Only that, but it wasn't in general chat, It was actually in game, and some Random player happens to walk by, take offense to it and Page on that person.
Friend Talking to another Friend - "Yeah, my (Family Member/Spouse) was "Bannable Word" as a child'
Gonna Perma-Ban Someone who has been playing the game for possibly 11 Years as they confide something in their online friend, because you find a word they use offensive.....
Also, Its called General Chat for a Reason. Make a new Chat Session and Call it "Trammy Land" (Funny, they created a new world to seperate the pvpers from everyone else). Certain Places have their "Norm". You don't go into a strip club and complain people are naked, You don't go to a construction yard and complain that everyone is Rude, Swears, and seems to get upset easily. Online games are filled with Lots of "vulgar" people, Don't believe me? Every online game I've played that you can have a map other people can draw on, there is Usually A vulgar object Drawn on it.
Unless you seperate yourself from them by
- Leaving General Chat/Starting your own
- Utilizing the "Filter" System.. <-- MAN wonder what that Does?
- Staying away from PvP. You have Tram/Ilshenar/Malas/Tokuno/SA STAY OUT OF FEL IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE TRASH TALK
Bingo. Yahtzee.
Well after reading this thread I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring.
First, I want to applaude everyone in having a civil discussion about such a "hot button" topic. I'm really proud of the UHallers! Let's try to continue to keep the thread open and the discussion as civilized as possible.
I have to agree to one thing, that is "offensive" is subjective, but on that same note I'm sure there are some things no one wishs to see or hear anywhere.
I will state right here that I am 100% guilty of swearing in game and in chat. I lose my temper and I cuss like a sailor. I'm working on cleaning up my potty mouth. I also openly admit that my most recent potty mouth explosion happened during Halloween when a player had the unfortunately dim-witted idea of spawning an Ancient Hell Hound at Luna bank. I on my beggar and at least 5 other people got mowed down. While it doesn't excuse my potty mouth, it at least explains it.
To Eldan- I agree that someone shouldn't be banned for using the "R word" as in the context of it happened to someone, however I think the best course of action in that situation would to be to party up. That way only you and the person you are disclosing this to are privvy to what's being said. IMHO, discussing something that sensitive in open game is kind like discussing it in the middle of Walmart.
However I have NO tolerance of someone who uses the "R word" just to be using it or because they think it makes them a badarse, or whatever.
To KylieKinslayer- Its unfortunate that your friend got banned, but he didn't have to use that word just to roleplay a badarse. He could have emoted something like "Spits on dead meer and kicks dust on him".
I agree with whoever said they find necrophila unacceptable to use in game. I also find the word pedophile/pedophila unacceptable to use in game, because if you allow those in game it opens up a slipper slope.
Something I find extremely distasteful is the use of general chat to brag of one's sexual exploits and/or prowess in graphic detail. Honestly no one really cares who you are "messing up the sheets with" or how great you "think" are at it. Unfortunately Legends had one of those.
I think that if you want to RP a badarse, a mega evil-doer, or a villian you don't need use bad/offensive language. Instead just use your brain! There are lots of great sources out there. You want a mega-scary, uber evil villian?
Look no futher than the Lord of The Rings Series. Without any doubt Sauron is about as scary as it gets! If its a female villian you seek how about the White Witch from Narnia or Callisto from Xena Warrior Princess. Speaking of Xena, that show and Hercules are chock o block full of awesome villians!
Which leads me to my next suggestion Mythology! Shoot you can even use WWE if you are really hard up for material. I mean Rowdy Roddy Piper made how much being a "heel"?!?!?
Will Smith made great rap music and he didn't cuss or kill no one in his records!
First, I want to applaude everyone in having a civil discussion about such a "hot button" topic. I'm really proud of the UHallers! Let's try to continue to keep the thread open and the discussion as civilized as possible.
I have to agree to one thing, that is "offensive" is subjective, but on that same note I'm sure there are some things no one wishs to see or hear anywhere.
I will state right here that I am 100% guilty of swearing in game and in chat. I lose my temper and I cuss like a sailor. I'm working on cleaning up my potty mouth. I also openly admit that my most recent potty mouth explosion happened during Halloween when a player had the unfortunately dim-witted idea of spawning an Ancient Hell Hound at Luna bank. I on my beggar and at least 5 other people got mowed down. While it doesn't excuse my potty mouth, it at least explains it.
To Eldan- I agree that someone shouldn't be banned for using the "R word" as in the context of it happened to someone, however I think the best course of action in that situation would to be to party up. That way only you and the person you are disclosing this to are privvy to what's being said. IMHO, discussing something that sensitive in open game is kind like discussing it in the middle of Walmart.
However I have NO tolerance of someone who uses the "R word" just to be using it or because they think it makes them a badarse, or whatever.
To KylieKinslayer- Its unfortunate that your friend got banned, but he didn't have to use that word just to roleplay a badarse. He could have emoted something like "Spits on dead meer and kicks dust on him".
I agree with whoever said they find necrophila unacceptable to use in game. I also find the word pedophile/pedophila unacceptable to use in game, because if you allow those in game it opens up a slipper slope.
Something I find extremely distasteful is the use of general chat to brag of one's sexual exploits and/or prowess in graphic detail. Honestly no one really cares who you are "messing up the sheets with" or how great you "think" are at it. Unfortunately Legends had one of those.
I think that if you want to RP a badarse, a mega evil-doer, or a villian you don't need use bad/offensive language. Instead just use your brain! There are lots of great sources out there. You want a mega-scary, uber evil villian?
Look no futher than the Lord of The Rings Series. Without any doubt Sauron is about as scary as it gets! If its a female villian you seek how about the White Witch from Narnia or Callisto from Xena Warrior Princess. Speaking of Xena, that show and Hercules are chock o block full of awesome villians!
Which leads me to my next suggestion Mythology! Shoot you can even use WWE if you are really hard up for material. I mean Rowdy Roddy Piper made how much being a "heel"?!?!?
Will Smith made great rap music and he didn't cuss or kill no one in his records!
Yes you should. That's why it's there. You should have to put them on ignore. That's the sane thing to do, rather than go off on some sort of hissyfit and ask the developers to please make everyone nice.
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Amathist
Guest
I totally agree, my guild has people aged from 13 to 70 odd and I was brought up to respect my elders and to refrain from letting loose with foul language in a social setting. There for it has never been acceptable for guild members to swear in guild chat or in front of anyone that may take offence.
Do I swear, my oath you get me in a bad enough mood or if I stub my toe and I am sure a curse here or there may let fly,I am not a saint and do not expect people to be.
But I do not sit by a total stranger at the bus stop and start cursing for the sake of it, which is what happens when every second words is the f bomb or some other unacceptable barb at someone else that is broad cast for everyone to see.
Some people say the answer is to ignore what is going on, but ignorance does not make it RIGHT or socially acceptable or even necessary.
Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not do sit by and do nothing.
Is swearing evil? no but do we want a society full of disrespect and vulgarity?
In 7 years of playing this game I don't think I've ever had someone come up to me and start cursing at random. This is getting blown way out of proportion.
I agree certain words,terms should not be used.
I admit that sometimes I read the pvp chat because it gives me a good laugh.Like the term "dirt nap"
I know I am going to get it for what I am about to say,here goes:
First off let me make it clear I respect ppls religious beliefs.
I find it equally offensive for someone talking to me about "saving my soul" in a flippin game.This is a GAME!. I want to have fun .Not being preached at.
I admit that sometimes I read the pvp chat because it gives me a good laugh.Like the term "dirt nap"
I know I am going to get it for what I am about to say,here goes:
First off let me make it clear I respect ppls religious beliefs.
I find it equally offensive for someone talking to me about "saving my soul" in a flippin game.This is a GAME!. I want to have fun .Not being preached at.
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What is the difference? Having someone come up to me and swearing as apposed to letting loose in chat channels or at any social gathering spot where more then just friends are gathered, it is basically the same as far as I am concerned.
I still hear it against my will, it is still inflicted on me without respect or consideration to who may witness it. And it is still an unnecessary form of communication that shows disrespect and bad social manners.
And before you ask NO, I do not accept it in public either and am quick to point out to an offender that I simply don't need to hear it nor does anyone else around them.
I should not have to walk around with my fingers in my ears or turning my eyes the other way because someone can not control themselves and that is all it is SELF CONTROL.
i'm offended not by potty mouths, but when someone kills me leaving my entrails all over the ground, and then picks each and every piece of armor and gold off of my decaying skeleton.
every time this happens i curse and swear hoping they have spirit speak and then say fuuck it when i realize its just a game.
... but i still feel like i have been harassed, so i report my killer to the gms every time this happens.
every time this happens i curse and swear hoping they have spirit speak and then say fuuck it when i realize its just a game.
... but i still feel like i have been harassed, so i report my killer to the gms every time this happens.
Hi, welcome to reality.
I have to admit I'm truly impressed.
This is the second profanity in this thread.
I'm Sooo tempted. A part of me wants to "report" the post on principal.
Thread Title: General Chat Abuse.
Poster's are Sooo passionate about their right to use obscenities they'll even do it Here.
I have to ask. Would you be suprised if you got reported and flagged for this? Or is it because it's just uhall and who cares?
Can anyone guess what word he was going for? I can't.
LOL. Agreeing with this. Ignore function is there to be used.
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It very well may be your reality, it is a certainty that chat abuse happens, it is why this thread was made. BUT that does not mean it is how things should be and it certainly does not mean that something should not be done to change it.
There are a lot of things that are unacceptable in society, that does not mean we just stand by and decide to accept it.