Fields and AoE's should be Neutral

[Llewen]

there is no way in hell you are even thinking about conflags being overpowered in pvp. and when it comes to pvm, you could still just run in circles around the fire field. and to be blunt, there not over powered at all. im a GM alchy with max EP, and the damage is laughable on high end bosses. and if the field did hurt me. standing in the middle of it would deal a petty 7 a tick.

And 50EP GM alchy conflag kill people in 70 fire resist in 3 ticks? Yea It's possible if that dude you killed is redlined down to like 10 hp.

I hate to say this, but you two have obviously never faced this. I guarantee you, a greater conflagration pot put down by a character with gm alchemy and 50 ep, will kill any character within three ticks, possibly barring the use of gift of renewal. Far be it from me Cear to tell you you don't know what you are talking about, but in this case you obviously don't.

---->(Now of course I haven't actually tested this tactic myself<------

WTF?

Well I did. 70 fire resist VS max EP and alchemy. 8 Ticks standing in the conflag. Highest damage was 8 lowest was 6. Nowhere near dead. not to mention smart people dont stand in the middle of the conflag for its entire duration. Ive been an alchemist for 12 years. NEVER QUESTION ME AGAIN!!!

Ha, too funny, I missed this, see below.

either you have 24 HP, or grossly exaggerate.
Greater conflag, 70 fire resist, 8 dmg a tick TOPS.

Sorry, but you are wrong. One thing though, it might not just be 50 EP and GM alchemy, maybe there is some other factor in there that I am not aware of, but I assure you, three ticks and any character would be dead with no other factors involved.

You are right. I went and tested it myself. Teach me to take what others tell me as gospel. However, I also know what happened to me, and what I witnessed. So obviously something else is going on here. Maybe it's an exploit? Maybe sdi is affecting greater conf damage (I have no way of testing this right now)? But obviously something is up beyond just GM alch and 50 ep.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

You have to realize you are talking to people who mostly pvm and only sometimes pvp. They don't spend their day making templates that are specifically engineered to kill other templates. They don't think about it much at all because for the most part they are PvMers. So, when they run into you, or someone like you, who have spent sufficient time and gold onto a player killer template it looks to them to be severely overpowered and unfair.
These people aren't stupid, they are just uneducated. They haven't devoted the time or thought into how many different ways there are to kill another player so when they step into an alchy's conflag (with EP bonuses especially) or they are hit by a few explosion pots they are surprised by the damage and immediately think OMG THIS PERSON IS CHEATING because .... well frankly it seems that way to them.

yes...you are correct...which is why I do my best to try and explain things to the none believers. however if they dont get it after a few posts I just start to poke them with a stick. if they still dont get it, i pee in thier inbox.

 

[Llewen]

You have to realize you are talking to people who mostly pvm and only sometimes pvp. They don't spend their day making templates that are specifically engineered to kill other templates. They don't think about it much at all because for the most part they are PvMers. So, when they run into you, or someone like you, who have spent sufficient time and gold onto a player killer template it looks to them to be severely overpowered and unfair.
These people aren't stupid, they are just uneducated. They haven't devoted the time or thought into how many different ways there are to kill another player so when they step into an alchy's conflag (with EP bonuses especially) or they are hit by a few explosion pots they are surprised by the damage and immediately think OMG THIS PERSON IS CHEATING because .... well frankly it seems that way to them.

I'll grant that you have a point here. For me personally, I am a generalist, not a specialist. I try to create templates that are good at everything, and most often end up with templates that aren't exceptional at anything and mediocre at most things.

You've also managed to get me doubting myself. If I run into the people that used this tactic again, I'll have to pay closer attention to specific numbers, and write them down, so that I have something more concrete to bring to the table.

 

[Flutter]

If you ran into an alchemist who threw a conflag or even two they weren't just using the conflags to kill you I assure you. More than likely since I know you're on Cats you ran into an archer with alchemy. There are 4 that I know of on Catskills. I am one. You probably got hit with a conflag and an arrow or two making you go down quite fast and making it seem like all that happened was you were on fire