Faction Templates

[Lynk]

Funny...my resist looked to be 120 last time I checked. Keep hiding behind your skirt girlfriend. Everyone knows you're the weak link in 2.0

Parafield in between houses. Stay in the field, and cry for someone to save you. Sums up your skills.

Also...maybe every dexxer that has 120 anatomy should get a free melee skill so they can fit 120 resist. Balanced yet?

To answer the original poster's question. If you play a mage like all of 2.0 suggested, be ready to ONLY show up if you have another mage holding your hand. You never see them hanging around on their mages solo. The only glimpse you may get is one of them running to Lynk's house west of the gate. Why do you think Lynk has so many Onyxia pix. He's usually the only guildie around so needs his stealth action. It's not a dirty thing, just reality.

Somewhat hypocritical, I don't see you on an orange flying solo. To think of it... I don't see any UOD faction or UOD red by themselves ever. It may look like it, but there are always 4 stealth archers waiting to help. Don't get me wrong, I think it's funny as hell.

Why don't people play solo now? Because its stupid. UO has turned into group PvP like it or not. If I come to the gate on a factioner or a red by myself I spend the entire time trying to isolate one person from the zerg horde chasing me.

Sure I can come to Yew gate on my blue mage, but I fail to see the entertainment in that. I sit there, waiting for someone to flag. Or I could get into a weaken/harm match and see who can cast the quickest. It's boring.

Dorinda is hardly a weak link. She is reliable. She is one of the few people I'm willing to fight with because she'll stick around to crossheal even if it means she loses points and goes into stat. And when a target is called, she synchs her spells with the group instead of casting a magic arrow or trying to hold a poison lock on someone that has cure potions.

 

[Balian of Asgard]

Your logic is slightly flawed when saying that people can exp/fs/eo/ps too easily with parry being so effective.

A parry mage can't output that kind of damage, I know, I play both necro and parry mage.

There aren't enough available skill points to be necro/parry with the scribe to get the dmg bonus. Not to mention, to be an effective parry mage you need to sacrifice intelligence for a minimum of 80 dex (after items, which results in additional SDI lost).

Instead of complaining about dmg dealt by necro mages that get exp/fs/eo/ps off, maybe you should switch to a faster bow when someone casts 7th circle spells?

I know you play an archer because you like hitting only 3 keys, but come on, change your tactic a bit.

And concussion is overpowered, on my dexer I tested it and I can do 9 concussion blows in a row, 10 if I get consecutive mana leech off.

like 9 chained concs in 20 seconds? or like 10 in a row with 3 second intervals in between concs?
be lil more specific plz

 

[Lynk]

like 9 chained concs in 20 seconds? or like 10 in a row with 3 second intervals in between concs?
be lil more specific plz

Chained concs, as in every swing a concussion blow. 9 swings, 9 concussion blows.

 

[Cardell]

I've seen you pvp. Here's how it plays out usually

1. Run and precast curse
2. run and precast corpseskin
3. explosion
4. fs
5 eo
6 ps
7 and then small spell spam if that doesn't polish them off


Of course you'd argue in favor of keeping evil omen the way it is. I would to, but resist should be worth having I'd think.

First of all you said I spam eval omen. I dont spam it, spamming is EO EO EO EO EO EO EO EO.. Which in fact does not work because you cannot EO something 2 times.

2nd. That combo you just posted is used by 100% of necro mages... So why you are saying you saw me pvp and then post the most common combo in the game is sort of irrelevant.

3rd you are don't fight unless you have a tamer or dismounter holding your hand, which means if I stand there and cast on you I will be on foot in 3 seconds from either an archer tamer or a stealth tamers bola. That is why I off screen when debuffing you. If you would like to fight me 1 on 1 with out your tamers dismounters or base traps I'd be happy to fight you. I think you know that.

4th. I really only use that dump on scrubs. I have other combos that i like/have to use against better archers.


I do use EO a lot, but its not against dexers or archers and its definitely not a spam.. Mr spam mortal conc archer.

 

[Cardell]

This is the route I went. There's really no point of trying to chug with parry if you don't have bushido. I think went something to the effect of 90str 80 parry 85 int. The suit made up more. I'm not a great mage but for someone who is good at it like say Cardell, would be effective, even if you dropped scribe for wrestling.

And there is no mages out there with 85 int that are good. You get no SDI from that low of INT. If you are a pure mage that is going to do half decent damage you need 125 INT. Thats why parry mages are really hard to make.

 

[Dubar]

Funny...my resist looked to be 120 last time I checked. Keep hiding behind your skirt girlfriend. Everyone knows you're the weak link in 2.0

Parafield in between houses. Stay in the field, and cry for someone to save you. Sums up your skills.

Also...maybe every dexxer that has 120 anatomy should get a free melee skill so they can fit 120 resist. Balanced yet?

To answer the original poster's question. If you play a mage like all of 2.0 suggested, be ready to ONLY show up if you have another mage holding your hand. You never see them hanging around on their mages solo. The only glimpse you may get is one of them running to Lynk's house west of the gate. Why do you think Lynk has so many Onyxia pix. He's usually the only guildie around so needs his stealth action. It's not a dirty thing, just reality.

none of us like to solo, we enjoy the group aspect of pvp and playing with each other. i fail to see the problem in that

if you want to talk about holding hands, how about UOD factions never grouping away from their houses, unless syck is out in force?

 

[Berethrain]

While I was on GL, the majority of the time I was fighting alone in Yew. I'm sure most people recognize that. The arguement fighting against tamers and dismounts is irrelevant because when I was with them we were guarding at the base. What do you think is going to happen when you recall into a group of opposing faction?

However you want to justify it is fine with me, I could care less.
Although, telling me using specials is spam, is like telling you all your spells are spam. Hardly the case. But I digress.

 

[Berethrain]

And there is no mages out there with 85 int that are good.

That was the base, not the total.

 

[Cardell]

That was the base, not the total.

Getting 40 INT on a suit is very hard..If not impossible . NOT MANA, INT! Stats is the whole reason why parry mages are hard to make. You need the 125 INT for the SDI since you don't have scribe.

 

[Cardell]

While I was on GL, the majority of the time I was fighting alone in Yew. I'm sure most people recognize that. The arguement fighting against tamers and dismounts is irrelevant because when I was with them we were guarding at the base. What do you think is going to happen when you recall into a group of opposing faction?

However you want to justify it is fine with me, I could care less.
Although, telling me using specials is spam, is like telling you all your spells are spam. Hardly the case. But I digress.

That's BS. You never were in Yew fighting. If anything you were on the gate... or in the house at SL base. NEVER saw you fighting in the open.

 

[Berethrain]

That's BS. You never were in Yew fighting. If anything you were on the gate... or in the house at SL base. NEVER saw you fighting in the open.

I didn't have access to any SL houses up until 2 days before I xferred to LS and that was on one char. Keep trying though.

When I did play, which is ocassional, I was usually guarding or in Yew. If I was on the gate it was probably due to running from a gank squad. Very few from any faction seldom fight alone. You are no exception. You're occasional recall into the TB base and then run and recall out isn't exactly fighting.

 

[Saint of Killers]

none of us like to solo, we enjoy the group aspect of pvp and playing with each other. i fail to see the problem in that

if you want to talk about holding hands, how about UOD factions never grouping away from their houses, unless syck is out in force?

1) The original poster asked what template to use. You all piped in "mage". If he wants to play (without needing to wait for someone in his guild to also be on) then a mage is not the way to go.

2) UOD has a total of 4 active factioners. lol Cialis has 1, Scout has 2, I have 2, Boxcar has 1. Good luck getting hands held very often. I'm on my stealther most of the time due to being solo depending on the day. That's life. I also need a couple more days to get my warhorse bonded for Saint. Then appearances will pick up. Hate investing points in hide/stealth on my alt, but minax x 2 buddy system blows vs lil ole me.

3) Syck attacks our faction and nonfaction constantly. Obv you're not sticking around enough to notice.

4) From Lynk's response:

"Somewhat hypocritical, I don't see you on an orange flying solo. To think of it... I don't see any UOD faction or UOD red by themselves ever. It may look like it, but there are always 4 stealth archers waiting to help. Don't get me wrong, I think it's funny as hell".

Why would I let you "see" me flying solo on an orange. Kind of like when you're solo, I saw Lunchbox once in the last 2 wks solo. The only other times I've seen him is with Dubar at your side. You're always on Onyxia, and you should be ashamed...only 15 punkte points on that beast. lol At least I rotate stealing on sometimes to get some action started, unlike boring you who only rez kills. Wait a minute...I know who you are! YOU'RE FRED!! POSER!!

Don't hate the playa Lynk You know's I gots much love for yas. One of these days the rest of UOD will catch on to always get Onyxia on tracking (human 20) before taking off after you.

As for UOD reds flying solo...umm...have you watched the gate the last few weeks? The only active red guilds at all are us, P (who you don't even see that often now), and Syck. That's it. A UOD red shows up and every pwnt, tdr, and random wannabes jump them. So we get a cpl guys on, and very often end up rolling peeps up. If you want to say we need 5 v 1 odds, then you're tellin' fibs son. If not for UOD reds, the gate would be dead.

 

[Saint of Killers]

none of us like to solo, we enjoy the group aspect of pvp and playing with each other.

Did you really just say you and Lynk like playing with each other??? Ooooh juicy...

 

[Lynk]

You're always on Onyxia, and you should be ashamed...only 15 punkte points on that beast. lol At least I rotate stealing on sometimes to get some action started, unlike boring you who only rez kills. Wait a minute...I know who you are! YOU'RE FRED!! POSER!!

Changing one of my blue templates around at the moment, so the only character of mine you see at the gate is Onyxia. And I don't just res kill, I take redline kill shots too!

 

[Saint of Killers]

Changing one of my blue templates around at the moment, so the only character of mine you see at the gate is Onyxia. And I don't just res kill, I take redline kill shots too!

I stand corrected. I did witness that tonight.

 

[Lynk]

Why would I let you "see" me flying solo on an orange. Kind of like when you're solo, I saw Lunchbox once in the last 2 wks solo. The only other times I've seen him is with Dubar at your side. You're always on Onyxia, and you should be ashamed...

I CAN HAS SILVER NOW?

 

[Saint of Killers]

I CAN HAS SILVER NOW?

lol

 

[Mythic]

And concussion is overpowered, on my dexer I tested it and I can do 9 concussion blows in a row, 10 if I get consecutive mana leech off.

Wow! Just Wow!
10 in a row aye? At 82 mana 40lmc gm med and Mr9 I barely get off 4! thats 16 for the first and 32 for each consecutive shot, thats 112 mana spent in about 7 secounds. How in the world can you get off 10 concs? Just curious is all. If mana leech is the answer Id say thats where the problem is IMO.
But theres probobly no way to limit mana leech when hitting specials.(Or is there,hrmm)

 

[Lynk]

Wow! Just Wow!
10 in a row aye? At 82 mana 40lmc gm med and Mr9 I barely get off 4! thats 16 for the first and 32 for each consecutive shot, thats 112 mana spent in about 7 secounds. How in the world can you get off 10 concs? Just curious is all. If mana leech is the answer Id say thats where the problem is IMO.
But theres probobly no way to limit mana leech when hitting specials.(Or is there,hrmm)

117 mana, and when you have 300 skill points in wep skill/ninja/bush/parry and some others you get a mana cost reduction.

With that the base mana cost is 15, i have 40 lmc, 10 MR on the suit, and 90 med. And yes, i do use a mana leech wep. It's 9 normally, but if almost every swing is mana leech i can get 10.

 

[Mythic]

Agreed, it is feesible. swingin at 1.25(Id assume) in 6.25 secounds your spending 110 mana on 6 hits without taking into account your mr and leech properties, see unfortunatly ive only invested 240 skill points into mana reducing skills so Im only getting a 5 point reduction in specials. kudos on a nice build. My knowledge on swords and fencing weapons isnt the best so let me ask you what weapon your using with the conc special, Im guessing its a fast swingin weapon as your sacrificing a great deal of stamina for mana aye?

 

[Lynk]

Agreed, it is feesible. swingin at 1.25(Id assume) in 6.25 secounds your spending 110 mana on 6 hits without taking into account your mr and leech properties, see unfortunatly ive only invested 240 skill points into mana reducing skills so Im only getting a 5 point reduction in specials. kudos on a nice build. My knowledge on swords and fencing weapons isnt the best so let me ask you what weapon your using with the conc special, Im guessing its a fast swingin weapon as your sacrificing a great deal of stamina for mana aye?

Diamond Mace

 

[WarUltima]

So let's talk about the preferred (or best) faction temps that people are running. What do you think is the best and why? Is your faction temp mainly solo or for groups?

I currently run a dismounting bushi archer myself. Not sure if it's the optimum temp but it utilizes a lot of the new cool faction items.

It's great. However, I would suggest you do the following template which is almost the most powerful temp in UO rightnow. Sometimes you can kill people even without knowing what just happened (if you know what I mean).

110 Taming
110 Lore
120 Archery
90 Tactics
100 Ninjitsu
100 Hiding
50 Vet
40 Chiv

Using Dread warhorse (preferably hp >625) + Bake Kitsune

Theres a few varieties to this template. This one you need some jewlery and is pure survival. There's a healing type. And you can make it a mage type if you really wanted to. Ninjitsu is when you got dismounted you can animal form away while your pets are chewing on the dismounter. Hiding is also pure survival. Use smoke bomb if you really really do not want to die.

This is a ganking template itself even if you are just soloing. If you do it right you can probably charge into 3 to 4 enemies and come out alive with 1 of them dead usually. The vet is for using jewlery and talisman in case you are red and you need to rez your pet. With vet you can stick ur pet on someone least expected (or on the dismounter) and animal form away and hide. 50EP is also what you really want to put on your template. 4/6 is prefered.

At least on my shard, if you play this template right, you can go on against enemies outnumbered and come out with a few of them DEAD. If anything goes wrong, run away. Dismount all kill is going to be your main attack and chase your enemies down with moving shot or para blow for your pets to catch up. Usually after dismount if your dread mare firebreathe the victim is already dead. So enjoy.

 

[scturley]

I've never been hit for 60-70 from a conc bow

Then you've not been hit by a good archer, a crossbow with lighting and velocity and when the opponents mana is down can easily do 70 regardless of the opponents armor, if they hit. However I don't think they should nerf it, if they do they will make the archer meaningless, i mean come on how often does an archer hit? If your suit and template is good they will miss 2 out of three times. And concencrate weapon is meaningless if the opponants resists are all at 70. I have faught many duels with an archer and it is hard, you dont have the defense and you miss alot. If your somewhat low on life and a stealth archer pops out of hiding and hits you with a conc, your dead, thats what they are there for, to cherry pick. And the only way to stack 10 Concs in a row especially without waiting 3 seconds between shots is only going to happen if you script (hack).

 

[Gandie]

I play a normal Parry mage with:

120 magery
120 eval
120 wrest
120 resist
120 parry
120 medi

Suit: Good resists, 18 HPR, 25 HPI, 45 dci, 9 MR, 40 LMC, 20 sdi.

Its good fun