Faction Poll III - Miscellaneous Questions

[Tina Small]

Here is some additional information to use to answer this poll's questions. Give me a few minutes to add the questions.

Select the statement about faction tinkers if your faction tinker normally possesses other crafting skills without the use of a soulstone.

Faction consumables include HQ rune, shrine gem, supernova potion, enchanted bandages, powder of perseverance, greater stamina potion, and morph earrings. More information about this is here on the official UO site: http://www.uoherald.com/news/news.php?newsid=448.

Select the statement about incorporating some role playing into your faction participation if, for example, you have a bias towards/against specific factions because of their role in game history, e.g., you would never join Minax or SL or you would always join one of these factions, or you are a TB diehard. Also select this statement if if you don't care which faction you're in, but it's important to you to incorporate some element of role playing into the character and his or her speech and/or actions.

Below are the Hero/Evil rules on Siege/Mugen from the official UO playguide (http://www.uoherald.com/guide/guide.php?guideId=226). I assume these rules are still functional.

• The True Britannians and Council of Mages factions are "Hero" factions. The Shadowlords and Minax factions are considered "Evil" factions. All four factions are still be at war with one another, in addition to being integrated with the Hero/Evil system.
• Killing faction characters who are in your own faction incurs a penalty. The killer in this case loses 50% of his current kill points, loses 100% of the lifeforce accumulated, and can be reported as a murderer. An exception to this is the killing of guild mates, thus allowing characters to spar with guild mates. Another exception is that if your character is attacked by another, you are allowed to defend yourself with impunity.
• Faction characters gain lifeforce equal to 20% of the life force of the character killed, and the character who was killed loses an equal amount of lifeforce points.
• Faction characters gain 1 lifeforce point for each faction enemy monster the character kills. The maximum number of lifeforce attainable is 100 points.
• Players can spend lifeforce points toward special Hero/Evil powers by using a special phrase ("I invoke my good powers," for Hero characters, and "I invoke my evil powers," for Evil characters) to bring up a special menu through which they may control the following effects:
  - Colored Armor (5 lifeforce points; duration is permanent; turns an article of armor or clothing white for Hero, black for Evil)
  - Detect Evil/Good (1 lifeforce point; duration is immediate; allows Hero character to scan the area for Evil, and Evil to scan for good)
  - Summon familiar (10 lifeforce points; duration is 30 minutes; allows character to summon a familiar to fight for the character, silver wolf for Hero or dark wolf for Evil)
  - Bless (60 lifeforce points; duration is 30 minutes; temporarily "blesses" one equipable item, item will note time remaining)
  - Silver/Dark Steed (30 lifeforce points; duration is 30 minutes; creates a silver steed for Hero character to ride, or dark steed for Evil character)
  - Holy/Unholy Shield (40 lifeforce points; duration is 60 minutes; character is ignored by all monsters and faction guards while this power is active)
• Evil characters are only red if the character is a murderer. Any Evil character which kills a blue innocent may gain a murder count. The faction system hue applies for aggression and flagging.

 

[Connor_Graham]

You should add one more:

"How many characters do you have that use Faction artifacts but never participate in PvP?"

This might be a good question for another poll though.

 

[Sonoma]

You should add one more:

"How many characters do you have that use Faction artifacts but never participate in PvP?"

This might be a good question for another poll though.

This would be a good poll. This is exactly why I do factions. And ya I know people whine and cry about people using factions for the artifacts, but I dont care... if it was not for the artifacts, then I would not do factions at all, and they would have nobody to kill.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Spellweaving will get a lot of ticks mainly from JOAT.

 

[Tina Small]

This would be a good poll. This is exactly why I do factions. And ya I know people whine and cry about people using factions for the artifacts, but I dont care... if it was not for the artifacts, then I would not do factions at all, and they would have nobody to kill.

I've got 15 characters in faction and only one character is using ONE faction artifact, so I could care less if the artifacts went away. But I do care if factions extends outside of Fel. I doubt I'd stay in it if that happened.

I've got five thief/trap remover characters, three pally archers, six tamers (three peace tamers that I put in factions back when your faction character could only get pets from a tamer that was also in factions and three tamer/tracker/detector characters for base defense), and one crafter in factions. PvP is not my strong point, so I engage in it in small doses hoping some day I'll get better at it. I really don't relish the thought of being attackable on these characters anywhere they go. It's discouraging enough some days getting them regularly stomped upon in Fel.

I only use the thief/trap remover characters for factions, but they're pretty darn defenseless and I hate the idea of having trouble getting to the bank safely to throw in a little more gold for insurance and to stash or retrieve their puny silver balances that always end up being used for making trap removal kits. And those three peace tamers are my primary money makers on those three shards. I don't really want to make new ones just to be able to leave the other ones in factions. And the archers....haha. I use them almost entirely for base defense and carrying sigils and once in a blue blue moon to do a champ spawn with guildmates. They're pretty darn dusty. They get used for non-Fel PvM about four times a year, if that. Poured way too much gold and time into training and equipping them only to find out I just don't enjoy using them anymore.

 

[Widow Maker]

I have the mainstay of 4 accounts on factions.

I use faction artis on about 1/4 of them.

I would not care in the least if faction fighting were to expand outside of Fel. I accept the dangers of faction membership everywhere I go with any of them.

 

[Airhaun]

I fully support:

1) Extending faction fighting in Trammel

and/or

2) Making faction arties unequipable in Trammel

 

[Mairut]

On one hand, I would like to be able to use my faction character to fight on other facets.

On the other, I can see this as cutting back on my thieving opportunities at Yew Gate (and other places in Fel). Why would anyone hang around Fel if you can be freely stolen from there? The only place we'd have is champ spawns...which isn't a bad deal, really. But first the insurance, and now the possibility for everyone to just go somewhere else to fight...

So... again? Really?

Next thing we know they're going to make champ spawns in Trammel...because hey! why not? you can do factions in Tram now, anyways!

Which begs the question, what about people with all red characters?

Yes, I know that being red is punishment for killing blues, but that is something I feel needs to be considered, at least a tiny bit.

Anyways, it'd make my decision easier if I knew that thieves wouldn't be forgotten in all these conversations, or forgotten if the devs do implement cross-facet faction fighting

 

[dukarlo]

Perhaps you should add a question as to whether people use a speedhack or not. It doesnt matter whether they fix points or this and that in factions if people make thier own rules anyways. Thats basicly what factions and many other aspects of pvp have come down to anyways. Hell, EA even gave T shirts to the biggest cheaters on GL for the EM moderated pvp tourney on GL. Yes factions need fixes but what good are they if the majority of faction players are skipping around like mad?

 

[Magdalene]

None of the above?

 

[Quenchant]

IMO....

The faction goodies were put out there to entice folks to play in factions a bit. At the start of this, the devs didn't realize how borked the rank system is and underestimated the number of folks that would point farm just to get the faction arties.

So, I guess it's time for the point farmers to make up there minds.

Either the faction arties are only usable in Fel or Faction members are freely attackable anywhere in game. Time for the folks that only joined factions for the goodies, to make a decision. Play in factions or Fel and get the goodies, get out of factions so you aren't hunted everywhere in game.

Q

 

[Llewen]

So, I guess it's time for the point farmers to make up there minds.

Either the faction arties are only usable in Fel or Faction members are freely attackable anywhere in game. Time for the folks that only joined factions for the goodies, to make a decision. Play in factions or Fel and get the goodies, get out of factions so you aren't hunted everywhere in game.

Q

In my opinion the silver cost should be much higher than they are (as in ten times or more). The items are just too good to be something you can get in a few hours of farming faction mobs. As for the ranking system. I haven't really thought about that much, although something tells me it isn't accomplishing it's intended objectives.

 

[Eyes of Origin]

You should add one more:

"How many characters do you have that use Faction artifacts but never participate in PvP?"

This might be a good question for another poll though.

good question, but I think that would start a flame war

 

[Eyes of Origin]

I fully support:

1) Extending faction fighting in Trammel

and/or

2) Making faction arties unequipable in Trammel

If they move faction fighting to tram, then no, I dont want arties that cant be equipt there. I have suits that are based around faction arties, but those templates are strickly pvp chars.

If they dont move faction fighting to tram, then I'm all for no faction arties in Tram.

 

[Eyes of Origin]

IMO....

The faction goodies were put out there to entice folks to play in factions a bit. At the start of this, the devs didn't realize how borked the rank system is and underestimated the number of folks that would point farm just to get the faction arties.

So, I guess it's time for the point farmers to make up there minds.

Either the faction arties are only usable in Fel or Faction members are freely attackable anywhere in game. Time for the folks that only joined factions for the goodies, to make a decision. Play in factions or Fel and get the goodies, get out of factions so you aren't hunted everywhere in game.

Q

definitely agree

 

[Paps]

yeah it would be just great that my faction crafters [who do NOT wear any faction items] can get ganked by 5 greifers trying to sell something in luna,,,dumbest idea ever.Face it,,EVERYONE who joined factions after they put the artys in place only joined for the arys.How about we just get rid of all the faction items alltogether and THEN let you people faction fight everywhere.I would bet factions would then become just as barren as it was before the artys.Really,,the sytem is not broken,,it doesnt need fixing.This is basically yet another "get rid of tram post" from people whom refuse to play Seige.

 

[Eyes of Origin]

yeah it would be just great that my faction crafters [who do NOT wear any faction items] can get ganked by 5 greifers trying to sell something in luna,,,dumbest idea ever.Face it,,EVERYONE who joined factions after they put the artys in place only joined for the arys.How about we just get rid of all the faction items alltogether and THEN let you people faction fight everywhere.I would bet factions would then become just as barren as it was before the artys.Really,,the sytem is not broken,,it doesnt need fixing.This is basically yet another "get rid of tram post" from people whom refuse to play Seige.

I honestly dont think that Tina's doing these polls to "get rid of tram". =/

 

[Tina Small]

There are two somewhat controversial questions in this particular set of questions. However, I hope people will just answer all of the questions honestly and save the worst of the arguing for another thread so this one doesn't get locked. I'd really like to see the answers to all of the questions in this poll and the other two polls and I imagine a few other people might too.

It's interesting but I guess not surprising that there are few gargoyle faction characters and not surprising at all that no one so far has indicated they are using a character with throwing skill in factions. I hope the developers are paying attention to at least those two questions after all the time they spent on gargoyles and throwing!

I'm also interested in the answers to the questions about using mysticism and spellweaving in factions and all those "other" templates! And what exactly do people put on their faction tinker characters for other skills if not more crafting skills?! (I have a guess what the answer is....am just surprised so few people have owned up to having a faction tinker.)

Anyway, thanks to everyone so far for participating. The results are interesting.

Edited to add: I was also thinking this afternoon that I wish I'd included a question asking if anyone has acquired and used that faction cloak. I think you use it to summon creatures, if my memory isn't failing me. Is that indeed what it does and is anyone using it and if so, what do you think of it? Was it worth the threads, how long do the summoned creatures last, and do they do decent damage or at least spook the enemy a bit?

 

[Tina Small]

Note: If you don't want to vote in the poll but do want to see the results, I believe you can see the poll results if you log out of Stratics and then open the thread again while you are not logged in.

 

[Paps]

I do beleive the whole point system could use a looking at and agree with most of you there.
Gargys in factions,,i have 1.Does he have faction gear,,,no.do i pvp with it,no.Do i log it in more than once a week,,,no.
Most that have gotten the robes say they are useless.
Those people that keep crying "let us faction fight in tram" are really saying
"oh pweese devs,,,let us gweive twammys in tram"
this is proved by the fact that faction fighting in tram allready is possible ingame under the `warring` system and the fact that almost no faction guilds are in a `war` [i looked on pac,atl,drek,grt lks] the only faction guild that i found warring anyone was an RP guild.
as for mystic and spellweaving,,most ive seen using them [not allways on gargys] use them paired with magery

 

[Ailish]

Lets see, only one of my faction characters uses faction arties - because I tend towards support characters and am usually low on the points chain, and because my other faction characters were built before there WAS such a thing as faction arties, thus no reason to change gear.

I am *neutral* to the Hero/Evil thing as I haven't really much knowledge about it.

The only faction character I have that wears faction arties is red, so they can restrict them to Fel all they want, no effect on me.

I would ADORE being able to carry faction fights to the whole world. If I want to do something where I need to be "safe" such a crafting, I will do it in my house ... in Fel. I have never understood why faction fighting was restricted to Fel. Just because I travel to another "state" where I have no interest in the "government", doesn't mean I am gonna feel all "buddy buddy" about the guy I was just in a bloody battle with back in my "home state".

Spellweaving - I have it on one of my faction chars. The character had it before I turned her factions, and it IS useful - especially if you can get a 6 focus. The area spells are worth it if you know how to use them, but I haven't had much practice with her in a faction base fight - mostly I used her in Harrower defenses.

Gargoyles - now, remember, I played a garg the entire time they were available in beta - a mystic/mage garg at that - but I do not have a single garg on a production shard. Let that speak for itself.

 

[Nyx (Atl)]

Just want to add a note to my vote for "I'd quit faction if faction geer was restricted to Fel only". This would only apply if at the same time they made factions in tram. I have no problem if they made factions ruleset in tram (I actually think it would be fun). But, if they're going to make the faction ruleset in tram, then it is only right to allow me to wear my gear outside of fel.

 

[It Lives]

Just want to add a note to my vote for "I'd quit faction if faction geer was restricted to Fel only". This would only apply if at the same time they made factions in tram. I have no problem if they made factions ruleset in tram (I actually think it would be fun). But, if they're going to make the faction ruleset in tram, then it is only right to allow me to wear my gear outside of fel.

who said that?
LOL, can I have your stuff? Cake and eat it too? Why do you need faction gear in tram?

 

[Scratch]

none of those questions apply to me

all of my chars are in factions
none use mysticism gayness
none use spellweaving
none are lame gargoyles

i will not quit if faction fighting is allowed in tram.....i am all for it
i would like to see non pvp participants lose the rights to wear faction gear in tram, tho if they allow faction fighting in tram that would come to an end fast anyway.

now if only they would get rid of pot throwing azzhats in factions so you cant get statted by a bs script.....that would be pimp

 

[Lady Michelle]

I would only pull out characters that I have in factions that I don't use in factions at all. These characters do not have any faction arties either.

 

[Merion]

As always, please do keep in mind that only a fraction of UO player read UHall and again only the most vocal of those are answering those polls...

 

[Lorelei Rage]

Wow this poses so many questions. Ok if Faction fighting is going to go tram as well as fel are you going to let the reds in tram? After all most of the chars in factions are reds. Cant discriminate against the reds if you go faction fighting in tram and by the way I have no red chars I like my freedom.

Hmmm this will stop bank sitting to burn those counts, then people would have to think do I really want to take that 4th count at the champ raid?. Imagine actually having to burn your count time while playing and not duel clienting to burn them at the bank. Would be interesting seeing all the ones at luna bank burning their counts being blown up by pots. Or will this just make us see ghosts hanging out at luna so they dont time out?


I agree with Scratch you want to fix something, fix the scripting it is just pure bs and no one seems to give a crap. Paging is useless nothing gets done. It is amazing when pots can follow you for screens and screens hit you dead on and kill you. Also lately getting killed with no one else on the screen hmmmm scripts are out of control. Maybe some of the higher ups should come to fel and join us dying, while watching others going from redlined to full health in one second, maybe then they will do something about the scripting... it kind of does take the fun out of it for the ones of us that play by the rules.


Also if you are going faction in tram does that include malas, ishnear, the sa lands? I have a malas vendor house but I do have other homes to go to if need be, however, I might consider quiting factions if there are no "safe zones". While I do actively pvp I dont do it 24/7 there are so many other things to do and 20 min of stat seems to take forever. If I have to make two suits one for pvp and one for pmv so be it, really not a big deal.


However, have you given any thought to the EM's? This would kill there
pvm events. EM run tram events would turn into all out pvp battles. I know on atl there are a lot of us that use our pvp chars to pvm and do quests.

I truely feel that if you permit faction fighting in tram that it will disrupt the entire system that you created in making tram and will only discourage more from joining factions. I feel there is a lot to think about before a decision is made.

Also Paps is dead on here that is what warring is for. Unless you let the reds in then see how many people get upset.

As for some hero/evil rules I think that would benefit. Might actually get some of the guilds that are fighting within the same factions to move around and even out the playing field.

As for the Cloak of Command I never see anyone use it, as I understand, the summoned can be immediately dispelled. I do not believe I have ever seen 1 summoned from that cloak since it came out. Orc Brutes are the most used.

As for faction items yes I use them, I have one other char in faction that uses faction items that I really dont pvp with. But while i do not actively pvp with her I do actively pvp. But again not a big deal if you decide only usable in fel. The other thing is now with imubing not hard to customize a suit to be exactly the same as what my suit now has or better.


I believe some more thought has to go into what you are going to implement there are too many strings left untied. I can come up with plenty more questions for the polls.

 

[A Rev]

I have maybe 5 chars in factions...most of my chars are PvP orientated but my main guild is non faction, as such i keep a few chars non faction to join with them.

Almost all of the 5 use faction arties.

The mages use the kasa/heart/orny

The 2 dexxers use mostly all faction arties[spirit/rbc/stormgrips/primer/fey]...only 1-2 pieces crafted.

That being said, one of my non faction mages and dexers has exactly the same suits as there faction counterparts...so, dont care if the arties go.

Personally, id rather see the arties stay and open up faction pvp to all facets.

Maybe, to help prevent the obvious griefing which could occur [killing crafters for example] allow trammel to retain faction guards[these will work for ALL factions being attacked by ANY faction while inside guard zone], re-implement non beneficial acts [to the aggresor] and maybe a few other changes.

 

[Nyx (Atl)]

who said that?
LOL, can I have your stuff? Cake and eat it too? Why do you need faction gear in tram?

I really do wish people would read before coming off with some sarcastic retort.

The "quit" reference was one of the choices..."I would quit factions if faction artifact use was restricted to Felucca"--not the game. The rest of my post explained (again, if you actually took the time to read it) that it would only apply if they allowed factions in tram.

So you're telling me that if they allowed factions in tram YOU wouldn't need/want your gear?

Not only did you not read my entire post, I don't think even read the poll ffs.

 

[vitamin]

yeah it would be just great that my faction crafters [who do NOT wear any faction items] can get ganked by 5 greifers trying to sell something in luna,,,dumbest idea ever.Face it,,EVERYONE who joined factions after they put the artys in place only joined for the arys.How about we just get rid of all the faction items alltogether and THEN let you people faction fight everywhere.I would bet factions would then become just as barren as it was before the artys.Really,,the sytem is not broken,,it doesnt need fixing.This is basically yet another "get rid of tram post" from people whom refuse to play Seige.

this coming from a guy who used to never leave tram nor pvp come on now get real only reason you joined factions so ya could fight j's with out taking a count

 

[Paps]

please vitamin,,,like you would pvp when you ping 3,000
now that i ping 300-400 i do.Even attempting it at 3-k is totally pointless.
BTW joining factions was suggested to me by the guildy whom you kept whining about killing you on my message board Mr. stealth archer

 

[Lorelei Rage]

I am very suprised that one on has responded or commented at all on my post I thought I posed some pretty good pros and cons thought it would have stirred some responses

 

[Paps]

I am very suprised that one on has responded or commented at all on my post I thought I posed some pretty good pros and cons thought it would have stirred some responses

Hi Cameo.[at least it's one response]

 

[Lorelei Rage]

lol Paps how are you? Biggest thing is if the scripting and hacking stops more might want to pvp.

 

[Llewen]

I am very suprised that one on has responded or commented at all on my post I thought I posed some pretty good pros and cons thought it would have stirred some responses

The Cameo from Cats? (This is another response. )

I remember tangling with you a couple of years back if you are that one, and very much enjoyed the few times I could feed you to my beasts. Regrettably that wasn't often enough.

My only beef with the faction artifacts as they stand are that, considering their power, they should be a lot harder to obtain, as in they should cost at least ten times, if not 100 times, the silver in my opinion.

You shouldn't be able to get something that is stronger than the strongest non-faction artifact in the game, something that might take you a year, or more, of game play to get by regular means, for an hour or two of demon whacking (if you are in TB).

 

[Lorelei Rage]

The Cameo from Cats? (This is another response. )

Sorry not the same Cameo I only play Atlantic. Only jump to other shards for rares fests and things like that.

 

[vitamin]

please vitamin,,,like you would pvp when you ping 3,000
now that i ping 300-400 i do.Even attempting it at 3-k is totally pointless.
BTW joining factions was suggested to me by the guildy whom you kept whining about killing you on my message board Mr. stealth archer

whinning well if you want hackers than fine and to apoint you lost business mr power hungry guild leader.tha t the reason you left a^d for you never got your way and was not given the POwer youdeserve and if you have problem with my template then come to fel yew ot minoc anytime i will take you down you trammie always using your internet as an excuse.and your guild name is so lame to ni that is so lame indeed you neverfight with the big dogs. oh yeah any ni i see i will faction kill and in tram will never help you want drama you got it . if you can' fight with the big dogs don't get off the porch. and he is hacker a cheat exploit speialist or what ever you want to call it but you can not i repeat cannot run and cast at same time. and i an not only one that has seen it. now i am so happy fel jahar did what he did to you.

 

[Paps]

*hands vitamin a tissue*

hmm,,,last time i remember seing you in fel you were living up to your guilds name [house hiders] as for a^d i`m glad to not be in it,,my "way" was to be in a guild with people in it,a^d had what,,maybe 6 people in it then?Didn't f-j "abandon" uo [your words] yeah,,that sounds like good leadership to me.
I've had way more fun in NI with people whom are real friends than any time in a^d.I wonder how many months you wasted your time staying in that guild before moving to something else [btw didnt i introduce you to both cameo and the people from the WAR guild,,you are an ungreatfull little twerp]
Gee you dont like my guilds name,,here you go

*hands vitamin a tissue*

 

[Lorelei Rage]

Actuallly Paps if you remember I stumbled upon you and vitamin in ish I met you both at the same time. As for our guilds name it is hysterical so sick of everyone saying that is what we do so what better name to name your guild... and hmmm paps quite frankly I never see you in Yew or Fel for that matter and I am there daily and we must really be good "House Hiders" cause lets see our guild is in the top 8 in factions where NI is not even on the list. How many total points does your guild have? Sorry Paps nothing personal however got to stick up for my guys.

So moving on waiting for you higher ups to do something about the hacking, cheating, exploiting or whatever you want to call it... now finding the pot hack on more so they must be spreading how do to it however the ones using it have not nearly perfected it and finding clear evidence on their bodies. SUGGESTION TO EA: Make a daily patch if you patch daily lets see easy uo, razor non of the third party programs will work. Easy solution then you will see who is cheating cause they wont be pvping. And you are going to have to address this soon cause more and more are using it.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

lol Paps how are you? Biggest thing is if the scripting and hacking stops more might want to pvp.

I wonder when they are going to make stealth tamers become visible again when they flag.

 

[Lorelei Rage]

Here we go again bashing my temp. Least I am out there trying. I thought that is what stealth is I show when I flag then I have to hide again. Ask all the stealth archers out there that hit me as soon as my dragon is on someone. I pop out just like they do when they flag.

But is it soooo interesting that when I do flag on certain people they know dead on where I am cause of the flagging script with stealthers. Least I dont cheat is all I have to say and I am out there and obviously by you posting I am not "House Hiding" like everyone always says.

 

[Paps]

Actuallly Paps if you remember I stumbled upon you and vitamin in ish I met you both at the same time. As for our guilds name it is hysterical so sick of everyone saying that is what we do so what better name to name your guild... and hmmm paps quite frankly I never see you in Yew or Fel for that matter and I am there daily and we must really be good "House Hiders" cause lets see our guild is in the top 8 in factions where NI is not even on the list. How many total points does your guild have? Sorry Paps nothing personal however got to stick up for my guys.

i could have sworn i met you on your tamer cameo getting ready to do a bone demon for a gold skull,,i`m not biting on your guilds name but what i said was true,he wouldn't come out of the house,,2 of his guildys/allies did but he wouldnt.Hmm you dont see me in fel therefore i`m never there,,,if thats your logic then you need to re-think your logic.I can say the same for you.i never see you there therefore you must never be there[see how absurd it sounds now] I personally dont do yew gate,it bores me.Ni does spawns.Most of Ni isn't interested in raiding other guilds spawns.As for points,,hmmm lets see here, I`d bet if i forced my guildys to become stealth archers with S.S. to see ghosts we could reskill people like you people too.
heres a little cut-paste from ea.
ouse Hiders, Inc.Overall Skill Averages

Tactics 64.9
Anatomy 56
Resisting Spells 47.1
Archery 44.4
Healing 44.3
Meditation 41.9
Magery 37.4
Evaluating Intelligence 33.8
Hiding 26.9
Chivalry 23.8
Necromancy 22
Spirit Speak 21.9
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
nothing personal cam and i`m sure you probably have at least one decent pvper in your guild but getting punkte off of reskills doesn't get much respect from me [i wont speak for the rest of the faction community] and tbh almost 90% of SL i do see around yew when i do actually go there are in houses.I have a rather vivid memory of stamblocking one running to get back into it as a heat member killed him.[don't remember the chars name and i'm sure they have forgotten it ever happened by now]

 

[ReaperNI]

I am in The knights of NI and i will say paps is the biggest hacker LMAO.PLEASE STOP RIGHT THERE. I mean seriously paps can barely keep up with me when hes mounted and im on foot. To say he hacks is absolutly rediculous.And the power trip thing yea right? been in guild for about a year and not once heard paps go off about everyone doing ity his way and if anything he 99% of the time helping his guild out with different things. And im guessing we are talking about hhs or whatever that sl guild is. Let me just say this im really against ganking so i offered help when heat or com piles up outside your door. The guy named blood had the nerve to tell me that i was lucky he didnt kill me. lmao i have on serveal ocassions had 3 to 5 hhs members on me and have picked them off one by one. So telling me your going to kill me is just funny.

On the note of factions in tram im against it. my eyes need a break from pot throwing medic using gankers that pile up 20 to 1 while spaming how great they are. I am not the best pvper out there not even close. I dont cry cheat everytime i die. But when i have some idiot telling me how good he is after i got 3 purple pot chasing me from a screen away well its kinda obiovous of whats going on. but cheat will never stop so i dont bother flaggin people to gms anymore i think a gm once throw a pot at me lol. but please i beg of you keep your mouths shut. If your a good pvper i let you know it and if you got a nice style ill give you props but i mean all this chest beating bull has got to go.

Using faction items on trammies is fine by me. my sampire rocks faction arties he doesnt go into fel hes not set up for it. telling someone that they can only use the stuff that the char got is pointless its like saying i know your mage got a spirit of the totem in doom but he cant give it to your fighter.

UO is not broken the people that play it are. I have played back in the second year it was a much better game back then people were civil. you want to have the game be better it starts with YOU.

 

[Lorelei Rage]

Paps you really should look at your own guilds overall averages lets see you have 134 memebers and your highest average is tactics at 45.8..... hmmm we have 70 members and our averages are way over yours.... Not quite sure what these averages mean though seem pretty pointless to me when most our players are all 120'ed in skills but whatever. And by the way we spawn all the time usually 6 or 7 a day sometimes more and when we are scouting have yet to run into NI. And once again this is nothing personal you brought up the average thing just thought I would let you know what I found.

 

[Lorelei Rage]

Now is anyone going to get back on the topic. Seems to me I made a well thought out post and now no one is reading this thread but paps, quite discouraging I must say.

 

[Paps]

I brought out the avg to show that your guild has a large number of archers and stealth.People in Ni guild have 120`s as well,,,i highly doubt your guild has magically been able to go over the 720 skillcap [unless you are running that 150 archery hax] so nobody ingame is more skilled than any other.Basically you can tell what type of templates are predominant in a guild,,,however the more numbers in the guild,,the more blurred it gets.I don't know what your guilds peek hours are but if your scouting mid day you probably wont find us.Most Ni members do that work in the day thing.A lot of our members are what i call `casual gamers` meaning they are not the 3 hours a day every day people.More like 1 hour a day once a week people.Heck i wonder where these people are myself half the time[heheheh]
But when we do spawn we don't advertise it and there are lotsa places to do them.Have we gotten raided,sure.Has it been by your guild,not that i recall.Does that mean were not doing any,,,umm,,no,,,thats just silly to think that.
On a diff note i think the thread died cept for the trolls a while ago.

 

[jtw1984]

The best thing about this thread is Ni acting like they are any good.

rofl

 

[Lorelei Rage]

You are right Paps we have no one that magically went over the skill cap cause we dont do the hacks bugs and we all know who they are. But seems no one gives a crap about that now does it cause this thread is dead.

 

[vitamin]

The best thing about this thread is Ni acting like they are any good.

rofl

that is funny took many ni down and oh yeah and they even gave me sots alsoand fopr your info mr paps the drunk. if you and your so called guild would get in yew one time you would never come back again.and the name calling is so lame and think that you are mad because lorie was so right.i don't care what you say about me me bjt you start slurring the name of hhi then it will be all out war. you can't hide forever

 

[Paps]

that is funny took many ni down and oh yeah and they even gave me sots alsoand fopr your info mr paps the drunk. if you and your so called guild would get in yew one time you would never come back again.and the name calling is so lame and think that you are mad because lorie was so right.i don't care what you say about me me bjt you start slurring the name of hhi then it will be all out war. you can't hide forever

LOL too funny we've a few that about all they do is yew.One of them is the guy you kept crying on my message board about him killing you till i barred you from posting on it [because i got tired of your crying] so now you feel the need to cry here.All out war,,,,hahahhaha.Heres a hint,,,your an OJ,,,its the normal,,you say that like i am supposed to fear you or something.Cant hide,,LOL so says the stealth archer.Here is another hint,if you `didn't care what i say about you,you would have stopped posting a long time ago,,keep it up,i could use the laughs.