Eval+anat vs wrestling??

[aarons6]

so my necro mage has eval and anat to get the 120 defensive wrestling..

if i say drop anat for wrestling what are some of the advantages?

can you use specials without tactics on wrestling?

what about UBWS items? is wrestling considered a weapon skill??

i would really love to imbue on my necro mage a 30 ssi, sc +1 fc ubws weapon and use wrestling instead of anatomy.

 

[Cardell]

so my necro mage has eval and anat to get the 120 defensive wrestling..

if i say drop anat for wrestling what are some of the advantages?

can you use specials without tactics on wrestling?

what about UBWS items? is wrestling considered a weapon skill??

i would really love to imbue on my necro mage a 30 ssi, sc +1 fc ubws weapon and use wrestling instead of anatomy.

UBW doesnt work with Wrestling.

Yes you can use the wrestling specials without tactics.

That would be the benefit to having wrestling over anat..

 

[aarons6]

so thats it then? nothing else?
right now i have 120 defense skill from eval and anat, so gaining wrestling up to 120 would be a waste?

 

[Lynk]

Hardly a waste.. disarm and stun punch are very worth while if you get good at toggling it.

Anatomy is the better move if you are working with a tight skill point build.

 

[aarons6]

my necro is pvm mostly tho.. altho he does own pvp when i do fight.

 

[imperterritus]

Hardly a waste.. disarm and stun punch are very worth while if you get good at toggling it.

Anatomy is the better move if you are working with a tight skill point build.

I don't understand why anatomy would be better in a tight build. Wouldn't it be a straight trade, giving up 120 points of anatomy to gain 120 points of wrestling?

 

[Diomedes Artega]

I don't understand why anatomy would be better in a tight build. Wouldn't it be a straight trade, giving up 120 points of anatomy to gain 120 points of wrestling?

hardly a trade. 120 wrestling gives you specials while 120 anatomy you do not have any. Some people depending on their templates though cannot fit 120 wrestling yet still have high eval on their template. They still want a defensive setup, so they squeeze in anatomy.

Reason? You can have LESS anatomy and still stack 120 wrestling. Example:

(Anatomy + Evaluate Intelligence + 20) / 2

100 + 120 + 20 / 2 = 120.

So, as you can see you saved 20 points and have stronger defense then if you had GM wrestling.

 

[ohmyGED]

Quick question on this topic --- does defensive wrestling (anatomy and eval int) come into play if you have a spell book equipped? When reading FAQs on Stratics I just saw the terms 'empty handed combat' --- does anyone have a solid answer?

 

[Gellor]

Hardly a waste.. disarm and stun punch are very worth while if you get good at toggling it.

Anatomy is the better move if you are working with a tight skill point build.

This. The problem is EA stopped special move stacking so getting the toggle right is a challenge. I'm considering changing my mage from wrestle to anat.

Quick question on this topic --- does defensive wrestling (anatomy and eval int) come into play if you have a spell book equipped? When reading FAQs on Stratics I just saw the terms 'empty handed combat' --- does anyone have a solid answer?

Yes, defense is with or without spellbook.