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EA THIEVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Thread starter Ivory Norwind
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georgemarvin2001
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A few observations:
1. EA's Terms of Service aren't necessarily the same as your legal rights, depending on which state or country that you are playing the game in. Her location may be more important in determining whether she would have any legal recourse than some of you think. Just because a company's lawyers write a document which makes everybody give up all of their legal rights before playing a game, doesn't mean that the law of the land allows them to do so. Some states and countries don't allow a taxi company, for instance, to require customers to sign a waiver that forces them to give up their rights in the event of an accident in order to ride in the cab, or a hotel to require customers to waive all rights to claims if the valet wrecks their car, even though said hotels still sometimes post signs stating that very waiver is in effect. Companies write terms of service that they can't legally enforce and waivers of liability that they aren't legally allowed to force customers to agree to, all the time. Just because EA says something doesn't mean that it is the law.
2. That being said, 50 million in EA gold is currently worth about thirty to forty bucks, if the gold sellers at Luna bank are a good method of measurement of value. NOT enough for a lawyer to bother lifting a finger for. The only thing they have to worry about is if the lawyer is an actual player.
3. The item insurance bug has been coming and going every 2 or 3 patches ever since AOS. The first time I heard about it was right after item insurance came out, when I went through a moongate with an insured axe in my pack and when I came out of the moongate, it was gone. When I paged a GM, he said that item insurance wasn't always working right and there was a known bug that allowed thieves to steal insured items; they were fixing it in the next patch, but my axe was gone; nothing he could do about it. The next time it happened was in Doom, when my insured stuff stayed on my corpse. I didn't lose anything; I just picked it up, recalled home, stripped and dumped everything into a pack and logged out. I logged back in, put everything in my pack and canceled the insurance, then put it back into a secure, then logged out, put it all back into my pack and insured it again; after that, the insurance worked right every time for years. The last time it happened was like a year and a half ago, just before I took a break from UO; I lost an insured rune beetle carapace. Not a big deal, and I didn't bother reporting it, but the fact that the bug had been coming and going for like 3 or 4 years by then wasn't exactly a big plus for UO when I was deciding whether to stay. The last time I heard about it was after I came back to the game last month, when a couple of people said they were killed in a PvP battle and were rezzed with empty backpacks; even the blessed items didn't show up. Since it didn't happen to me personally, I'll take those stories with a grain of salt, until it happens to me. But the fact that the probability is that the bug is still around 6 years after AOS went online, goes so far into the realm of negligence that it isn't even funny. Just because UO hired a crew of bumbling hacks way back in 2003 to do the AOS expansion doesn't mean that they waived all of their responsibility to send some competent programmers in to fix some of the messes that the hacks created.
4. THIS IS THE RANT FORUM!!!!!! Everybody who says she should calm down is missing the point. Here is the IDEAL place for her to blow off some steam. She isn't likely to really hire a lawyer, even if he's her nephew. And she isn't likely to quit playing; she is just so mad that she needs to yell and scream about the injustice of it all.
1. EA's Terms of Service aren't necessarily the same as your legal rights, depending on which state or country that you are playing the game in. Her location may be more important in determining whether she would have any legal recourse than some of you think. Just because a company's lawyers write a document which makes everybody give up all of their legal rights before playing a game, doesn't mean that the law of the land allows them to do so. Some states and countries don't allow a taxi company, for instance, to require customers to sign a waiver that forces them to give up their rights in the event of an accident in order to ride in the cab, or a hotel to require customers to waive all rights to claims if the valet wrecks their car, even though said hotels still sometimes post signs stating that very waiver is in effect. Companies write terms of service that they can't legally enforce and waivers of liability that they aren't legally allowed to force customers to agree to, all the time. Just because EA says something doesn't mean that it is the law.
2. That being said, 50 million in EA gold is currently worth about thirty to forty bucks, if the gold sellers at Luna bank are a good method of measurement of value. NOT enough for a lawyer to bother lifting a finger for. The only thing they have to worry about is if the lawyer is an actual player.
3. The item insurance bug has been coming and going every 2 or 3 patches ever since AOS. The first time I heard about it was right after item insurance came out, when I went through a moongate with an insured axe in my pack and when I came out of the moongate, it was gone. When I paged a GM, he said that item insurance wasn't always working right and there was a known bug that allowed thieves to steal insured items; they were fixing it in the next patch, but my axe was gone; nothing he could do about it. The next time it happened was in Doom, when my insured stuff stayed on my corpse. I didn't lose anything; I just picked it up, recalled home, stripped and dumped everything into a pack and logged out. I logged back in, put everything in my pack and canceled the insurance, then put it back into a secure, then logged out, put it all back into my pack and insured it again; after that, the insurance worked right every time for years. The last time it happened was like a year and a half ago, just before I took a break from UO; I lost an insured rune beetle carapace. Not a big deal, and I didn't bother reporting it, but the fact that the bug had been coming and going for like 3 or 4 years by then wasn't exactly a big plus for UO when I was deciding whether to stay. The last time I heard about it was after I came back to the game last month, when a couple of people said they were killed in a PvP battle and were rezzed with empty backpacks; even the blessed items didn't show up. Since it didn't happen to me personally, I'll take those stories with a grain of salt, until it happens to me. But the fact that the probability is that the bug is still around 6 years after AOS went online, goes so far into the realm of negligence that it isn't even funny. Just because UO hired a crew of bumbling hacks way back in 2003 to do the AOS expansion doesn't mean that they waived all of their responsibility to send some competent programmers in to fix some of the messes that the hacks created.
4. THIS IS THE RANT FORUM!!!!!! Everybody who says she should calm down is missing the point. Here is the IDEAL place for her to blow off some steam. She isn't likely to really hire a lawyer, even if he's her nephew. And she isn't likely to quit playing; she is just so mad that she needs to yell and scream about the injustice of it all.
Ivory love, you need to take a break, will do you the world of good 