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EA-Land Update for Tonight

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I would strip their accounts of everything and make them start over. Skills, Money, Objects, Houses, Locks. Lol.

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I'm thinking they were prolly new accounts. I doubt anyone with a skilled account would have dont this. I could be wrong tho.
 
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Wow! Thanks for the update! I would pick number 2 but if i was one of the 30 accounts i would freak out. For example, if i owned a shop and someone came and spent money (exploited money) but i didnt know it. Geez i would be freaking out that i couldnt log in. I would be like "BUT I DIDNT STEAL ANYTHING!" *cries* lol What a tough call...

I do agree with everyone else...go home and get some sleep! You all work very hard for us and i dont think one night will kill us *twitch* Thanks for catching this before it got out of hand!

*twitch*

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That's just it... approximately 30 accounts did the exploit. They gave money to a hell of a lot more people than the original 30.

How would you feel if you tried to login and couldn't because your account was banned for selling something to an exploiter?
 
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RZH of DG

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I would strip their accounts of everything and make them start over. Skills, Money, Objects, Houses, Locks. Lol.

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..Or you could just ban them for willfully defying the TOS and never have to deal with them again? I like that idea.
 
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XLaurenX

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Yes but those of you who say Option 1 it's not fair to those of us who its early for still and been waiting 10+ hours for EA Land to open lol I still choose option 2
 
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imported_Qute Pi

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I choose Option 2 for two reasons 1. that we shouldn't all be punished for what 30 accounts did... (Not trying to sound rude with this next part but...)and 2. I don't even think they should get a temp ban i mean think about? the 30 accounts that exploited and continued to do whatever they did deserve a perma ban... The ones who should get temp ban should be the ones who recieved the dirty money (The store owners or whatever) without evening knowing... Idk thats my two cents... But yes i vote option 2 sorry if i sound rude


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I agree 110%.
Ban the exploiters right outta EA-Land. Althought they'll just recreate new free accounts and start all over.

Option #2.


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Temp ban the store owners who got the dirty money without knowing it? lol you can't be serious. I hope no one tiped you with dirty money then...same would apply.
 
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imported_Brownie

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Its a shame that these exploiters had to ruin the final merge night. This was the night we were all waiting for. All the cities, including BV are finally merged, we should be setting off fireworks tonight in EALand. I hope the people that intentionally did this are delt with accordingly, severly and permanenty.

I would say do what you need to do, whats best for you guys and the game, it would be great to play tonight, but one night won't kill us. You guys need your rest too.

Take Care,

Nikki
 
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Cruz Cavera

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Do you have to have a Credit Card to access a Free Account?
 
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XLaurenX

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Wow! Thanks for the update! I would pick number 2 but if i was one of the 30 accounts i would freak out. For example, if i owned a shop and someone came and spent money (exploited money) but i didnt know it. Geez i would be freaking out that i couldnt log in. I would be like "BUT I DIDNT STEAL ANYTHING!" *cries* lol What a tough call...

I do agree with everyone else...go home and get some sleep! You all work very hard for us and i dont think one night will kill us *twitch* Thanks for catching this before it got out of hand!

*twitch*

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That's just it... approximately 30 accounts did the exploit. They gave money to a hell of a lot more people than the original 30.

How would you feel if you tried to login and couldn't because your account was banned for selling something to an exploiter?

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I Understand that... if i am one who recieved dirty money yesterday and i find out my account is locked then i'll suck it up LOL i would feel better at least some people get to play that have been waiting 10+ hours LOL do you know what i mean?
 
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Do you have to have a Credit Card to access a Free Account?

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No.
 
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Cruz Cavera

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I would strip their accounts of everything and make them start over. Skills, Money, Objects, Houses, Locks. Lol.

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..Or you could just ban them for willfully defying the TOS and never have to deal with them again? I like that idea.

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Yeah that would solve the problem. If they are free accounts that would totally take care of them...Not.
 
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TKSpeedy1

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I'm with you 100%, Lauren! It's only 10:23 here....I still have some valuable skilling time left.
 
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I thought all accounts had to have a credit card, Cruz?

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Free accounts dont need anything but an email.
 
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imported_Trudymac

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I favor the second option, temp ban the affected accounts and let everyone else play.

It is always playtime somewhere, for someone.


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I thought all accounts had to have a credit card, Cruz?

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Prior to the transition from Free TRIAL to Free PLAY, this was required. However, at this point free accounts do not require credit cards to register.
 
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luvibunni

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Probably isn't possible but if you don't ban those 30, I would like to know their names so I don't have any mishaps with them.. =x

Ok, going to bed.. for real this time hehe

Thanks guys and girls for all your hard work.

BabiDoll~
 
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imported_Zack Coolie

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All I know is... I think the game should remain closed for the night, just to make sure everything is okay. But either way... those 30 accounts, should be permanently banned from this game... that is totally unfair to the rest of the Ea-Land community. The new economy is the whole reason we are playing this game... and for that select 30 to try and ruin the game ONCE again, just hits me in the wrong spot. I hope the Devs do the right thing with these people. Thats just my opinion.
 
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Cruz Cavera

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I thought all accounts had to have a credit card, Cruz?

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Me too, I was thinking if they were on a Free Account and had put in their CC info then they could see what other accounts are active on the CC.
 
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Riley-

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Maybe we(someone) should re-think that? At least until EA Land is up and running smoothly.
 
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XLaurenX

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I'm not trying to cause a agruement with anyone and if i recieved dirty money yesterday i would rather be temp locked of my charaters then have the whole community suffer over this... it's early for alot of people and say my aco**** gets locked then i much rather have it locked and play a different game for a bit and get soem sleep then let everyone suffer =S
 
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Camile

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I dont know what the problem was, but I do know that at one shift at the bot factory. I got paid for 2 bots and the guy I was working with got paid for 32, which of course is wrong. I would count that as a bug? Other than that, does anyone know what exactly happened?
 
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I choose Option 2 for two reasons 1. that we shouldn't all be punished for what 30 accounts did... (Not trying to sound rude with this next part but...)and 2. I don't even think they should get a temp ban i mean think about? the 30 accounts that exploited and continued to do whatever they did deserve a perma ban... The ones who should get temp ban should be the ones who recieved the dirty money (The store owners or whatever) without evening knowing... Idk thats my two cents... But yes i vote option 2 sorry if i sound rude


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The way I read it, there were 30 accounts that were exploiting - but many more that were infected with the dirty money (probably without knowing about it) and need to be "adjusted".
So, the devs would have to ban those accounts too (temporarily) in order to open the game back up.

If we were voting, I would say #1 - take your time and do it right.
 
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XLaurenX

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Either way that is chose please PERMA BAN the 30 accounts seriously... why let them back in game if not perma ban strip them of everything LOL Exploiting is against the ToS of i would think so why let them get away with it? xD
 
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Either way that is chose please PERMA BAN the 30 accounts seriously... why let them back in game if not perma ban strip them of everything LOL Exploiting is against the ToS of i would think so why let them get away with it? xD

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Perma banning wouldnt help. They'd just create new free accounts.
 
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XLaurenX

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Couldn't they IP Ban??? Or just Strip there accounts of everything?
 
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Cruz Cavera

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They are fixing the Exploit. But yes, if these are Free Accounts, banning them won't solve anything. They won't have the money they exploited but they will go unpunished.
 
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Couldn't they IP Ban??? Or just Strip there accounts of everything?

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IP banning wouldnt work. All it would take was to go to another location and make the account. There are several ways around IP bans.
 
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mysticlisa516

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I agree, I don't own a store or haven't given or received $ from anyone in game. But I still vote for Option #1. Keep the game down until everything is fixed. I hate when the game has to keep shutting down when something cant get fixed in a specific time frame. Drives me insane in waiting for it to open, then go crazy when the shut down notice comes when I'm in the middle of something.

Just keep it down, get some sleep, and start fresh tomorrow.


Great catch Devs.
 
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A quick note, guys: We've fixed the exploit. We did that before lunch. The rest of the time, we've been chasing the money. A lot of avatars are/were affected. That is the part that is taking forever.

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imported_Zack Coolie

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A quick note, guys: We've fixed the exploit. We did that before lunch. The rest of the time, we've been chasing the money. A lot of avatars are/were affected. That is the par that is taking forever.

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I hope either way these accounts will be banned.
 
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Riley-

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It's really sad that people are still trying to cheat the system, and have ruined the game for all of us today. *grumbles*

Anyway, thanks for the updates and for doing what you can to get it all fixed. We appreciate it.
 
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XLaurenX

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If banning won't work Strip them of Skills, Items, Locks, EVERYTHING lol
 
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I say option 2, Temp ban anybody who has any of the dirty money so it dosn't spread and bring eal back for the rest.

if i am one of the ones who has recived any from an exploiter than i will understand why i cant be on to spread the dirty money. if eal stays offline i woulndt be on anyway, so at least bring it up for those of us who dont have the dirty money! thats just my opion anyway!

And thanks for all the hard work devs!!! you are all doing an Amazing Job!!!
 
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imported_Calina.Rhiannon

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I think it would behoove everyone if the staff simply continued their efforts into tomorrow. Banning the accounts and bringing the server back up will serve no purpose other than promoting panic among those who received the exploit-earned simoleans.

I do think, however, that after the exploit is fixed and all transactions are reversed, the accounts proven to have used the exploit should indeed be banned.

So, let's just get some rest everyone, and we'll see what tomorrow brings!
 
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vapd3317

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The DEVs will do what they determine is the right thing to do. My concern is this;

I was one of a few who reported the exploit after finding it. That exploit added simoleons to my account. On the surface, this would now look as if I participated in the exploit.

I immediately reported the exploit once I determined the cause, and for my account to be banned arbitrarily would not be fair to me, or to any others who also reported it.

I only hope that any decision made on the bannings, would be wieghed against those of us that helped make the DEVs aware of the issue at hand.
 
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Some of them reported the problem right away, they should not be banned. One player contacted me with the details to make sure the dev team got the message. So no we cant just ban all of them.
 
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If banning won't work Strip them of Skills, Items, Locks, EVERYTHING lol

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I still think they were probably free accounts that did this so, there wouldnt be anything to strip. The crap of it is, these people probably arent really losing anything.
 
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imported_Zack Coolie

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give all of them -$250,000,000! Let them try and work their way out of that.
 
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Couldn't they IP Ban??? Or just Strip there accounts of everything?

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Looking at consequences from another direction, would I be out of line to suggest that the guy who reported this exploit be given some sort of reward? I don't remember who it was but he was posting frantically this morning trying to get the attention of a dev. I'm just thinking that it sounds like this was pretty serious and by being so diligent this morning this guy may have saved us a lot of headaches down the road.
 
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Take your time! You all are doing great! Thank you.
 
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give all of them -$250,000,000! Let them try and work their way out of that.

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LOL!! that literally made me ell oh ell.
 
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Multivac

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3. Restore the database back to the point in time before the exploit occured. If this had been done this morning the system would have been back up before noon. Everyone is held harmless, it's like today never happened.
 
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Either way that is chose please PERMA BAN the 30 accounts seriously... why let them back in game if not perma ban strip them of everything LOL Exploiting is against the ToS of i would think so why let them get away with it? xD

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Don't misunderstand - I doubt there is any thought of *not* banning the 30. The issue is the ones who were inadvertantly drawn in. Of course they shouldn't be banned (the innocent ones). But, what Pari was trying to say is that, if they can't fix everything tonight, the only way to get the game back up would be to temporarily ban those accounts too so that other sims don't get infected as well.
I think everyone is in agreement (devs too) that the willing participants (the 30) suffer a permanent ban.
 
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give all of them -$250,000,000! Let them try and work their way out of that.

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I agree, best solution yet, lol.
 
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XLaurenX

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They are gonna pick option one because so many people are scared =[ I wouldn't care either way to be honest if my account was temp locked... I would at least feel happy knowing they are fixing it
 
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imported_Renee TSO

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Is there a way of informing everyone who now has a banned account, why and whats going on? Kind of like the in game message but just for those people? If so then lock those accounts and turn tso back on. Then send one of the two messages...

"we are sorry but according to our records you may have recived exploited money. We are also sorry for any inconvenience but we must lock you down till we can fix what the exploiters did. Bad exploiters!"

And for the exploiters...

"what part of EA did you missunderstand? We know where you live and who you are! In fact EA is on their way over to your house to drink your beer/soda, eat your food, and leave wet towels on your bed and/or floor. Maybe even order pay per view to run up YOUR bills! Thanks for trying to mess with EA and have a good night"

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imported_Zack Coolie

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give all of them -$250,000,000! Let them try and work their way out of that.

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LOL!! that literally made me ell oh ell.

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Glad it made some one laugh, it sure made myself laugh! lol

But great job with everything so far, I am just going to call it a night and start simming again in the morning or whenever that is tomorrow. Thanks again Parizad and the Devs
Good night all!
 
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