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Blade_Thugluv
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How many folks do you know with houses full of the doom arties?
They're not like MIBs that folks often stash to do in batches. The have value in being decor or being sold for decor, nowt else. No one with sense would have a house crammed full of the stealable arties. Which would be the sort of quantity required if your figures were implemented Or to put it another way, this could well turn out to be the "thief love" that Draconi (I think) hinted at. Not only would that be an utter insult to PvP thieves, it would be a further insult if we had the item points nuked that much. Bad enough that some of us resort to picking up silly deco to sell on vendors, let's not add insult to injury here lol.
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packrat
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Weren't doom artifacts duped in masses? I think doom aritfacts should be worth the same as the stealable ones. At least the thief has to work for his 10,000 points.
10,000 was a mistake ..one of the devs have stated in another post..
Stealables aren't canned. They are just not giving the right points atm. They will give points based on rarity level.
Lets hope they still give the Theives something to go stealing for again in doom and tokuna ...let the thieves breath again!!!!...If they make the points really low then the Theives just wont bother...
Stealables aren't canned. They are just not giving the right points atm. They will give points based on rarity level.
Lets hope they still give the Theives something to go stealing for again in doom and tokuna ...let the thieves breath again!!!!...If they make the points really low then the Theives just wont bother...
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packrat
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I agree. They need to bring some life back to the thieves. I have two thieves, one is 91 months old and the other is 82 months old. I use one for doom and the other to snoop around fel. The fel thief is useless these days. I ocassionally take this one to doom to get the tarot cards and those useless things.
They finally gave us a little hope and these whining people complain because their free holiday gifts are worth 50 points. What skill level did they use to get these free gifts? NONE How many hours did they train to get these gifts? NONE. A noob character with 0 skills got the same gifts as anyone else. Besides stealing aritfacts in a dungeon that no one wants to buy, what use does a thief have? NONE. I spent many hours training these two thieves and now we get a little hope to dust off the old thief to make up some of the gold it took to train these skills and people complained so much that we get pushed back again.
I dont think the ones that spawn more than once per day should be worth 10,000. The ones that spawn once a day should be worth at least 5000. I can get at least 10-15 maps per day and that would be around 5000 points. I think these two should be equal.
They finally gave us a little hope and these whining people complain because their free holiday gifts are worth 50 points. What skill level did they use to get these free gifts? NONE How many hours did they train to get these gifts? NONE. A noob character with 0 skills got the same gifts as anyone else. Besides stealing aritfacts in a dungeon that no one wants to buy, what use does a thief have? NONE. I spent many hours training these two thieves and now we get a little hope to dust off the old thief to make up some of the gold it took to train these skills and people complained so much that we get pushed back again.
I dont think the ones that spawn more than once per day should be worth 10,000. The ones that spawn once a day should be worth at least 5000. I can get at least 10-15 maps per day and that would be around 5000 points. I think these two should be equal.
Its just been posted on 5!!!
lv1-2 =200 points
lv 12 25,000 points!!!
Iam kinda guessing the devs want to keep the Theives happy so lets break it down....suggestions....
lv1-2 = 200 points(quite low for the trouble)
lv3-4 = 2000 points
lv5-6 = 5000 points
lv7 = 10000 points
lv10 = 15000 points
lv 12 = 25000 points
lv1-2 =200 points
lv 12 25,000 points!!!
Iam kinda guessing the devs want to keep the Theives happy so lets break it down....suggestions....
lv1-2 = 200 points(quite low for the trouble)
lv3-4 = 2000 points
lv5-6 = 5000 points
lv7 = 10000 points
lv10 = 15000 points
lv 12 = 25000 points
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Hanna
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Don't know where you got your break down, but yeah I think some are much too low too
For the effort and trouble they really dont eqate to the 10k for a doom artie which is fairly easy to get now.
lv1 = 200 points
lv2 = 400 points
lv3 = 800 points
lv4 = 1250 points
lv5 = 2500 points (once every a days spawn)
lv6 = 5000 points (once every 2 days spawn)
lv7 = 7500 points (once every 4 days spawn)
lv8 = 10000 points (once every 8 days spawn)
lv9 = 15000 points (once every 16 days spawn)
lv10 = 25000 points (once per month spawn)
lv 12 = 100000 points (Only 1 spawns once every 4 months)
For the effort and trouble they really dont eqate to the 10k for a doom artie which is fairly easy to get now.
From your break down though I would say it's set too low. To me the absolute minium break down should be...Jeremey FOF said:
lv1 = 200 points
lv2 = 400 points
lv3 = 800 points
lv4 = 1250 points
lv5 = 2500 points (once every a days spawn)
lv6 = 5000 points (once every 2 days spawn)
lv7 = 7500 points (once every 4 days spawn)
lv8 = 10000 points (once every 8 days spawn)
lv9 = 15000 points (once every 16 days spawn)
lv10 = 25000 points (once per month spawn)
lv 12 = 100000 points (Only 1 spawns once every 4 months)
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Hanna
Guest
No the posted points are too low, hopefully they will change it before it goes live.
There are level 7 stealables in doom, cocoons and studded tunics are level 7s
***7 ruined paintings, whoa that makes you look like an unattended scripter.
Sorry try again, but you must remember that the spawn is from 128-160 days on that and for the longest, there was noone in Doom when teh necro changes went into effect meanign i got a ton of tarrot and backpacks on top of them.
Your insuation that I am a scriptor you can blow it out your Ass as I was on a 56K dial up connection forever and even tho it is none of your business but cable was not available to me until about a year ago, so it was not by choice except my living out in teh boonies, and there is not much to do playing on dialup, besides get very good stealing in doom, and noteing patterns on times. So Unless you edit your comment about me being a cheater I will leave my comment about you blowing it out your ass
My mistake i forgot about the cocoon and studed tunics on being level 7, will change that on the other reply
Put PUNKBUSTER live right now, as i feel it is somewhat there but not active and i have no problem wiht it being used as I play anytime I play
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packrat
Guest
Ok lets do the math.. once every 128-160 days.. thats an average of 5 months x 7 = 35 months. Either there was never anyone in there or you are the luckiest person in doom.
I am not the only thief to have thiefs on multiple shards, and with this weird invention called shard transfers, it is real easy to have them all consolidated on my home shard, not that i need to explain how i acquired 7 ruined paintings, I am only stateing I am not turning them in for a meesely 25,000 points
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galefan2004
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Developers and players have hated PvP theifs since the start of UO. They went out of their way to get rid of them. Theifs are relugated to artifact hunters now. That might suck for people that want to play a PvP theif, but it hasn't changed in years.
I like your breakdown and I hope the devs consider it.