Don't punish rares collectors or kill the value of rares please!

[Ni-]

I wouldn't mind them renaming the 'new' rubble to 'Magincia Rubble' or something to that effect. The is another noticible way to tel new from old. As far as I remember the lightest (weight) piece of rubble was something like 28 stones or so. Well, these new Macincia quest rewards seem to be 12 stones, I believe. So the savy shopper should know that the 'real' rares would not be the 12 stone items.

 

[christy1221]

How can anyone honestly say any of these items are "rare" with a straight face? They've all been duped to hell so they're far from being rare. The only reason they aren't more widespread is because the few that have the multiple copies of once rare items are hording them and only release them 1 or 2 at a time so they can sell them for big $$$.

Rare my petootie.

Yeah theres a vendor that seems to have an endless supply. They wait awhile before they put more on the vendor. But they are selling rares I haven't seen for sell in well over a year and they have sold at least ten now. It's just odd that no one has had these items for sale in such a long time and now someone has a ton of them.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Yeah theres a vendor that seems to have an endless supply. They wait awhile before they put more on the vendor. But they are selling rares I haven't seen for sell in well over a year and they have sold at least ten now. It's just odd that no one has had these items for sale in such a long time and now someone has a ton of them.

There are no rares left in this game.
All items coming from last dupe seal forward are the rares.

Some of the RUBBLES might be rares but they were farmed to hell.

So...
Im all for what ever new stuff they bring. It is a game. Rares collecting is part of the game.

And besides punishment is a silly way to look at it. Punishment is for doing something wrong.

No one is being punished, new stuff is just being added.

As for those "rare" items on atlantic. Everything you can think of is available over and over again. And over again.

My burnt rubble is rare then that stuff.

 

[Prince Caspian]

Its the paradox of rares.

Folks who acquire a rare instantly want nobody else to get the rare. So their potential profit grows.

With a gold system so ludicrously devalued, I understand why peeps feel this way... because even with duping, items are still a viable currency.

But you know what, almost every event has campers who stockpile the items with the sole goal of selling them for a profit down the road.

Rares should be momentos to remind you of where you've been in the game, not a speculative investment.

If you view them as investments, yeah... prepare to get shat upon when the Devs recycle the "rare" items for new events. I'm sure they don't give a second thought to how it hurts the hoarders... and I'm not entirely sure they should.

 

[Xel Naga]

There are no rares left in this game.
All items coming from last dupe seal forward are the rares.

Some of the RUBBLES might be rares but they were farmed to hell.

So...
Im all for what ever new stuff they bring. It is a game. Rares collecting is part of the game.

And besides punishment is a silly way to look at it. Punishment is for doing something wrong.

No one is being punished, new stuff is just being added.

As for those "rare" items on atlantic. Everything you can think of is available over and over again. And over again.

My burnt rubble is rare then that stuff.

If you think there's no rares in this game anymore that haven't been duped I suggest you pay a visit to Manticore's museum on Baja and ORC's museum in Luna on Great Lakes.

I'm sure you'll be surprised at how many items dupers never got their hands on thanks to the people who actually COLLECT the items instead of selling out to dupers and renting their stuff to be duped like a certain person who sold his entire collection to dupers for $30k and still most likely retained a copy as part of the deal.

Re: everyone else

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Rares are there to be ogled over knowing full well we'll never be able to get it which is why they're rare. If it was attainable every other holiday why the F would I want one? Do you see people clambering over holiday globes and stuffy animals? Didn't think so.

Leave rares rare and simply create NEW rares so the new players will also have an attainable sense of being a collector while always being able to reach for that far goal of getting a really old rare item one day. Rares shouldn't simply be turned off like they have been and left to the dogs to ravage and dupe.

collectibles companies always do this, release a limited edition amount of X item, stop production. Next year, edition 2 of this item is popped out in limited X quantity. at 10 years past, the first year limited edition items you can bet will be worth a hell of a lot more than a limited edition from a year ago. This is how it is supposed to be. It isn't supposed to be re-releasing something rare from 10 years ago and ruining the whole rares collecting sect of the game. In your mentality we should just make this game contain no rares and make every graphic available to players. If you still don't see the logic in wanting rares kept rare I suggest you actually take the time to read every post in this thread instead of scrolling to the end of page 2 and read the last 2 comments because that's what people are doing and the same questions and answers are being cycled over and over and over.

Stop wanting something easy and go work for it. Stop wanting answers now and go read through 2 pages. Same mentality, we don't need it in the game.

 

[Tycolby]

you all have too much dam gold!!!!! Nerf the gold!!!!!!!!
40mil for a tree geez.
I got a log that came from the first tree on Alt to spawn in Brit. and its never been Duped. For Sale for only 150mil

 

[Prince Caspian]

I only have 4mil. And I've been on this shard for four years now.

Spare change, mister?

 

[Ni-]

I only have 4mil. And I've been on this shard for four years now.

Spare change, mister?

Your Begging has increased by 0.1. It is now 44.3.

 

[Prince Caspian]

Your Begging has increased by 0.1. It is now 44.3.

Ow.

Well, y--

Ow.

(sigh)

Well played, sir. Well played. A touch, indeed.

 

[Xel Naga]

Ow.

Well, y--

Ow.

(sigh)

Well played, sir. Well played. A touch, indeed.

lol.

 

[Masuri]

It would certainly be nice if they'd stop recycling art, not because it affects the rares market - which is both a joke and a gamble in this game - but because it sends the wrong message to all players:

Don't bother participating in events, players. Don't engage in trades. Don't work hard to collect anything. Wait a few months and the graphic will be recycled. Be lazy. Just like EA.

People respond to incentives.

 

[Prince Caspian]

Don't engage in trades. Don't work hard to collect anything. Wait a few months and the graphic will be recycled. Be lazy. Just like EA.

Don't forget "run illogical Trammel invasions a dozen times a year instead of actually writing a quest storyline."

 

[Mordocuo]

It would certainly be nice if they'd stop recycling art, not because it affects the rares market - which is both a joke and a gamble in this game - but because it sends the wrong message to all players:

Don't bother participating in events, players. Don't engage in trades. Don't work hard to collect anything. Wait a few months and the graphic will be recycled. Be lazy. Just like EA.

People respond to incentives.

I agree that rares should stay rare and a statement you make really hits the nail on the head.

EA/Mythic is way to lazy in the way they handle UO. You would think they could introduce new art on a continual basis. Instead of renaming or rehuing old art. What about constant additions to UO. Why does it take a year-two years to get anything into UO?

 

[JC the Builder]

There is a case to be made for items which were mistakenly left unlocked during world creation or special events. But when they pull out the Ruined Painting, a rare they intentionally introduced that only spawns every 3-4 months, and make it common; it just shows a complete disregard for the rare profession.

 

[Sindris]

It would certainly be nice if they'd stop recycling art, not because it affects the rares market - which is both a joke and a gamble in this game - but because it sends the wrong message to all players:

Don't bother participating in events, players. Don't engage in trades. Don't work hard to collect anything. Wait a few months and the graphic will be recycled. Be lazy. Just like EA.

People respond to incentives.

Its a bit ironic to me that someone would refer to someone who is not in a GAME collecting items that may or may not be worth something in terms of IN GAME currency as lazy. My father would insist that I was lazy by spending all of my spare time playing a game and not earning items that would be considered valuable in terms of, well, real money.

 

[It Lives]

Most Rares= Exploit game mechanics to have obtained.

Server births= poorly released game code.

Event Items= Heavily duped

All the rest/ doom.....all are still obtainable and really not rare.

= The replica's are a damn good Idea.

 

[Xel Naga]

Most Rares= Exploit game mechanics to have obtained.

Server births= poorly released game code.

Event Items= Heavily duped

All the rest/ doom.....all are still obtainable and really not rare.

= The replica's are a damn good Idea.

Except you missed the whole point of the thread, it has nothing to do with replicas.

 

[DHMagicMan_1]

The overall point of the thread is that I don't think any "art" should be "sacred" or guaranteed to be rare forever...

Something may be rare now, and they can bring it back in 2 years and still make it rare then or bring it back in a month as a gift to every toon on login...

I don't believe any object in the game (especially after all the duping) can be called rare, and since the game's been around for 11 years I think it's just time to say "If we have art for it, we may use it"

 

[It Lives]

Except you missed the whole point of the thread, it has nothing to do with replicas.

Not Missed the point at all, just included replicas same difference.


That Some people have attached $$ to these sketchy " rares" is the primary heat. Say what you will, I say its about $$ and peeps will fight it tooth and nail to Save the " rares".