Done with UO

[ohiohi]

I played this game on and off since 2001 and enjoyed it. Idocs were always fun to me until the scripters started using *** idoc finder and looter. When they run the programs it doesnt allow anyone else to pick up or open chests and even allows them to loot grab chests from the other side of the house. I know in fact it is scripts because the guild member was bragging and told us about it when we had been in their guild. *** and *** on Lake Superiour can take 6 packies and loot every single thing in an idoc without anyone else getting anything. This is the guild who also holds auctions and has other run the bids up for them. This is the guild who brags cuz they are loaded yet doesnt give the people a chance who walk many hours finding the idocs. Yes *** has been paged on and nothing was done so I am taking all of my stuff to luna and throwing it in the trash so it can never reach the hands of the scripters. EA doesnt care anymore so why pay for a game that to have fun you have to script....I'm not.

 

[jack flash uk]

Hello there

you sound very conflicted there

i fLS is plagued by scripting idoc scum, how aobut you pack up your nice things and jump to another shard? you might find it completely different and you might start enjoying it again

that might be your answer, a shame to let the cheats win, though i know exactly where you are coming from

my advice, take a breath, make some chars on other shards and spend a bit of time having a look see and experience idocs there, that might be your answer


you will regret leaving, and you WILL be back,

just dont do anything rash

good luck to you

Jack

 

[Shanna]

What a shame. You let others ruin your fun when those type of cheaters enhance it for me. Nothing like beating a scripter (someone who has to cheat to succeed). Makes me laugh at them. And anyways, Idocs are rare and a crap-shoot, scriptor or not. Far more things to do in game.

Well, if I were you, I would put all my items in the bank. In case, you ever come back, you'll still have them.

Good luck in the real world. Hope you come back

 

[Petra Fyde]

Sorry, I had to remove the name of the script, however I have passed on the information.

 

[Vyal]

I would quit if I was you.

 

[popps]

Personally, I think that the balance with scripting is in Ultima Online's disfavour.

That is, I think that the circumstance that it is possible to script in this game and on average scripters see not much consequences to their accounts for scripting, costs in the long run more subscriptions to the game that ensure subscriptions in favour of the game.

That is, I think that eventually it is more the players who decide to leave the game or not want to play it at all than those who play the game thanking to scripting.

I have met several players over the years I played the game who left it in disgust since they had enough to play a game and compete with other players who could script without much consequences to their accounts and myself, I have thought it over several times to leave because of the rampant cheating and have taken time off because I had enough of it.

For example, now, with the latest content addition of Legendary fishing, scripters will be capable of making it to 120 pretty much hassle free while those players not scripting will have to work hard and spend a whole lot of their gaming time to achieve that only to know that others did it with way much less hassle and time waste because they scripted fishing away.

I can't blame those who wonder, at some point. why the hell play a game that does not stop scripting.....

I am still looking for the day when Ultima Online will be finally able to be played cheat-free.

I keep reading that cheating is forbidden and that something "will" be done about it in UO but I never see that day come that UO will be possible to be played cheat-free. Not yet, at least.

 

[SchezwanBeefy]

Personally, I think that the balance with scripting is in Ultima Online's disfavour.

That is, I think that the circumstance that it is possible to script in this game and on average scripters see not much consequences to their accounts for scripting, costs in the long run more subscriptions to the game that ensure subscriptions in favour of the game.

That is, I think that eventually it is more the players who decide to leave the game or not want to play it at all than those who play the game thanking to scripting.

I have met several players over the years I played the game who left it in disgust since they had enough to play a game and compete with other players who could script without much consequences to their accounts and myself, I have thought it over several times to leave because of the rampant cheating and have taken time off because I had enough of it.

For example, now, with the latest content addition of Legendary fishing, scripters will be capable of making it to 120 pretty much hassle free while those players not scripting will have to work hard and spend a whole lot of their gaming time to achieve that only to know that others did it with way much less hassle and time waste because they scripted fishing away.

I can't blame those who wonder, at some point. why the hell play a game that does not stop scripting.....

I am still looking for the day when Ultima Online will be finally able to be played cheat-free.

I keep reading that cheating is forbidden and that something "will" be done about it in UO but I never see that day come that UO will be possible to be played cheat-free. Not yet, at least.

I don't think there will ever be a day when UO is "cheat free".
Plenty of people do their job by paging on people they see scripting, but I think this has really come down to Devs and GMs. The GMs really don't do anything at all... I've paged on my fair share of scripters, only to see them back in action later (whether they've had temp. bans or not, I'm not sure since we're never told).
It seems like EA has given up with UO. There isn't any GMs on Pacific right now because the paging system is broken there and has been for nearly a month now. I don't think anything will happen about it, either. It is no ones fault but the Devs and GMs, and I don't blame anyone for feeling like scripting is all right Everyone else is doing it, why not join the crowd?

 

[hawkeye_pike]

You were done with UO already when you started hoarding items and hunting for IDOCs. Because at that point you stopped playing for adventure.

 

[SchezwanBeefy]

You were done with UO already when you started hoarding items and hunting for IDOCs. Because at that point you stopped playing for adventure.

Absolutely not true.
I IDOC as well and I PVP and PVM. Just because someone takes the time once a week to look for IDOCs and then wait for them does not mean they've stopped playing. You can be an IDOCer and still do everything else the game has to offer.

 

[Babble]

Have fun

 

[Sevin0oo0]

If you're Really serious about throwing your acct in the trash, why not just join them? Nobody else seems skeered about punitive actions

 

[Apetul]

So much ignorance :/
You can control up to 5 packies, not 6. A script/cheat/whatever will never change that.
You, or anyone else cant grab chests or any other item from more than 2 tiles of distance. Again, a script/cheat/whatever will never change that. My guess is that you saw items on the air after a house fall, but you dont know where to position yourself to be able to grab them. I dont know how to explain the Z-axis to you so.. just google it.
There is currently a bug with houses that fall via idoc process or houses being resized, and most of the stuff is lost forever before any player have the chances to grab them.

Oh well, good luck.

 

[ohiohi]

There are always the same 2 guys with 3 packies each and yes I have witnessed them looting from across the house. If another idoc falls before my time runs out I will try to get a video and post it. Yes, I have done many hundred idocs and know about dragging floating stuff out of the air. The one guy explained how it worked when we were in the guild. I am just tired of nothing being done to the scripters...yes i could be like them and run scripts too but I always knew I was better than that. I didn't play UO to have to cheat. I had many fun times, doing pvm,pvp, and other things....idocs werent my only hobby.

 

[Trebr Drab]

I played this game on and off since 2001 and enjoyed it. Idocs were always fun to me until the scripters started using *** idoc finder and looter. When they run the programs it doesnt allow anyone else to pick up or open chests and even allows them to loot grab chests from the other side of the house. I know in fact it is scripts because the guild member was bragging and told us about it when we had been in their guild. *** and *** on Lake Superiour can take 6 packies and loot every single thing in an idoc without anyone else getting anything. This is the guild who also holds auctions and has other run the bids up for them. This is the guild who brags cuz they are loaded yet doesnt give the people a chance who walk many hours finding the idocs. Yes *** has been paged on and nothing was done so I am taking all of my stuff to luna and throwing it in the trash so it can never reach the hands of the scripters. EA doesnt care anymore so why pay for a game that to have fun you have to script....I'm not.

I wouldn't quit. UO is trying to solve these problems. And they aren't easy to solve without simply removing great game content. So my suggestion is to rethink your decision and hang in there. You won't find a better game anywhere, and they all have problems or they don't have the content the problems spring from.

It looks like your post has done some good, if you saw Petra's reply.

 

[Vyal]

mmm doesn't UOA have a scavenger option?

 

[jradar71]

It is sad to see another player go but please take my advise on one thing. Take as much of your stuff as possible and store it in your bank on all characters. Don't delete your account or give it away! I have left the game 2/3 times over the last decade. Each time I was dumb enough to give away my account or delete it.

One of the beautiful things about this game is that you can leave for a time if you like and when you return your characters will be just as viable as when you left. That is not the case in other MMOs. Take your break and clear your head. There is a good chance that you will return.

Ultima does provide several game aspects that are hard to find elsewhere. The housing system is unlike anything I have found anywhere; as well as, the vendor system. If you enjoy the unique aspects of this game (as I suspect you do), then plan to be back. On the off chance if you do not return you aren't out anything. But if you do return... you will be very happy that you stored your belongings in the bank.

Good Luck!

 

[Warpig Inc]

There is no magic code that will fix UOs problems without mistakes and hard aches that will spoil the population's trust. Pic and video capture of policing, investigating and trapping those that would wish to profit from bending or breaking the rules to meet their goals will do. Public posted burns of how they got caught will strike physical fear and not just some computer code hurddle they we try to clear in the future. It is not the naked guy that hands a player that 50mil gold or 500k ingots they just bought online that needs to be banned. That account needs to be tracked buy someone at each log in and the accounts it interacts with and then ban the whole lot. They have the means to ride in a players pocket or pop in sneakly like on players to observe what they been repeting for the last 16 hours.

There is no smoke up the ass excuse about the cost of a team random policing the shards not working. A publicity posting of them putting down their foot on the lowlifes would promote a migration of all the honest player that quit for this one reason. This would cover the cost and further growth of the game that no shinier brighter better pixel magic will do at this point in UOs long history.
But as someone had posted. I wont quit but will join the herd. Do those stupid things with teenage old accounts. And if I get banned will look at it as it as more beer money to cover doing better things with my time. Spending more my online time here and not in the game just tells me they have an infinite supply of dead horses. THEY are only willing to toss in a dead goat to distract us for a few weeks. How many month of low population because players need a break or sniff around other games do they need to wait before they pull the plug?

 

[Bobar]

Just my two-pennorth on some of the replies.

You are not finished with UO when you do Idocs - well I'm not anyway!. I've been doing them for some five years now and still do. Apart from that I still participate in Events when I can and also join in some Guild activities. Currently amongst other things my Bard has been out soloing turkeys. Finished with UO? - I think not.

I too have personally seen the said scripts at work - that they exist and do what has been described is a FACT.

In that time I have run up against many many scripters. If you do Idocs you soon learn the signs. One of the great joys of Idocs has been the rare occasions when you beat the scripter for whatever reason.

If as you say you too have done idocs for years surely you have made enough UO gold to see scripters as merely an annoyance. For me now they are water off a ducks back. If I get nothing at an Idoc it wont be the first time by many hundreds of occasions.

There is a difference between scripters at Idocs and scripters doing skills. A scripter at an Idoc will negate all the time and effoert of the legal player by obtaining items from the Idoc by cheating. A scripter at skills is really only cheating himself. When my characters reach Legendary status I have the satisfaction of knowing that I achieved it by my efforts alone. The scripter can never have this and has to be satisfied by doing it and knowing he/she is a cheat.

There were probably couple other things I intended to mention but I cant remember the posts now.

Dont leave because of cheats. At best what they cheat for doesnt exist. Tis possible to enjoy the game despite them

edit - One item I meant to mention - in some cases you actually CANNOT pick up a chest or item within 2 tiles - you HAVE to stand as far from the item as you can and drag it down. I think these are usually things that were on the top floor and did not actually fall down.

 

[Luvmylace]

I am Sad that so many people like yourself think that one cheat ruins the game.There are so many other reasons to stay .However, if you are truly through with UO why not just leave and not rile up and disappoint those of us that hope UO will continue. You are the very people contributing to the demise of the game, not the scripters/cheaters/and people who like things fast and easy. Winning by cheating is not really winning because there is no skill in cheating. The real players are the ones who play ,hone their characters and try different play styles,switch shards ,recruit to control the cheaters and make a sport of winning against the odds. Come to Catskills and try our way of playing,find a new life in UO

 

[Arcus]

You were done with UO already when you started hoarding items and hunting for IDOCs. Because at that point you stopped playing for adventure.

Whoa, hold on there bub. This is a sandbox game which is supposed to allow people to have fun (or attempt to) any way they want. Are you telling me that unless someone plays for "adventure" they shouldnt play UO? Thats one hell of a statement.

 

[Lady Storm]

My son and I had the very same thing on a house fall on Origin. 99% of the house fall was unable to be touched even though it was sitting on the ground. The ironic thing was the 2 hidden players were passing items back and forth and you could see things touch ground but you couldnt take them. Was very disapointing to see that they would go so far as to hog the whole idoc.

 

[koris]

Finally a uo player from ohio and you are quitting? damn.

 

[Apetul]

My son and I had the very same thing on a house fall on Origin. 99% of the house fall was unable to be touched even though it was sitting on the ground. The ironic thing was the 2 hidden players were passing items back and forth and you could see things touch ground but you couldnt take them. Was very disapointing to see that they would go so far as to hog the whole idoc.

And that's why idocers are stealthers.
Test it yourself with your son: use a stealther to grab/move a item inside your backpack, then check the screen on your son's computer and you will see a glitch on the 2D client showing that item on the ground on your location, but its not the real item and no one can grab it. Same happen with the stuff (chests, whatever) on the ground. When a stealther grab that item, a shadow or copy of that item's graphic remains on the screen for 2-3 secs and its common to see other people trying to grab that.
Another glitch of the 2D client is when stealthers or hidden players move items inside their backpack and the rest of the players can see these items flying over the screen.

 

[yanaki2]

well this might explain somethings. i was at a idoc keep on origin on saturday, when it fell not one item was highlightable and one person was hidden was able to remove each item into his packie and take them. the other 3 of us all had the same problem. no item was takeable.no one chest, not even the friggin skull candle on the ground. but that guy was able to remove them. that is a very unfair advantage.

 

[Maximus Neximus]

And that's why idocers are stealthers.
Test it yourself with your son: use a stealther to grab/move a item inside your backpack, then check the screen on your son's computer and you will see a glitch on the 2D client showing that item on the ground on your location, but its not the real item and no one can grab it. Same happen with the stuff (chests, whatever) on the ground. When a stealther grab that item, a shadow or copy of that item's graphic remains on the screen for 2-3 secs and its common to see other people trying to grab that.
Another glitch of the 2D client is when stealthers or hidden players move items inside their backpack and the rest of the players can see these items flying over the screen.

That or Z Axis

 

[jaraxlebaenrae]

here is how i dealt with the scriptors in UO and all the other bullcrap that ea/mythic is putting out these days...go to account page, remove active billing, then wait for billing cycle to end. in the meantime go to The Lord of the Rings Online and create a free account, once there you can log in, and play how you want, even buy a house, all for free. Should you choose to buy turbine points for store purchase you can, however you can earn them by just doing things in game and purchase new quest areas once you complete the 100+ quests in the free area.

 

[WildWobble]

Vultures!!

Idocs are such a lame way to make your fortune! Preying on the dead accounts.

If idocs are your idea of fun then uo is better off without you and your ilk.

ok just kidding idocs are ok once in awhile but if your just playing to do idocs then perhaps you should look into some other form of entertainment because idocs are boreing! Try you know hunting or fishing crafting even. Running about the land checking house signs and sitting around waiting hours on end for a house to fall is very dull.

 

[Lady Storm]

Vultures!!

Idocs are such a lame way to make your fortune! Preying on the dead accounts.

If idocs are your idea of fun then uo is better off without you and your ilk.

ok just kidding idocs are ok once in awhile but if your just playing to do idocs then perhaps you should look into some other form of entertainment because idocs are boreing! Try you know hunting or fishing crafting even. Running about the land checking house signs and sitting around waiting hours on end for a house to fall is very dull.

IDOC's on Origin are rare. Most are droped by owner and they move. The Stealther idea is fine for some of it but the whole house worth of things? you couldnt touch nearly all of it the second the house fell. There was only 3 other's there in stealth as was I, No this was total lock out of anything on the ground the second the house fell. IT was not fair in any way shape or form.

 

[ohiohi]

Oh i dont go out looking for them often anymore but if I am out and about I and find one I will go to it if I wake up early enough. They always fall between 9 and 10 am est so the waiting isnt like it used to be. Since I been back I probably have done 8 and the same 2 guys do the same exact thing at all of them. I do not make gold from them, I usually look for things I can use and give the rest away if I ever got anything.I was fishing all the time because thats always been the fun thing to do and happened upon the idoc because it was right at the waters edge.

 

[Zosimus]

People that up and quit should plan it out. Leave the house standing take what you want throw away stuff you dont want others to have. Then fill the house full of chests with junk to max storage of the house. Like use NPC stuff or non gm stuff from a low skill mule and make the chests max weight. May cure some scripters but hey who knows.

 

[Ox AO]

Never understood IDOC's myself. When the house falls everything should go.

 

[Theo_GL]

I played this game on and off since 2001 and enjoyed it. Idocs were always fun to me until the scripters started using *** idoc finder and looter. When they run the programs it doesnt allow anyone else to pick up or open chests and even allows them to loot grab chests from the other side of the house. I know in fact it is scripts because the guild member was bragging and told us about it when we had been in their guild. *** and *** on Lake Superiour can take 6 packies and loot every single thing in an idoc without anyone else getting anything. This is the guild who also holds auctions and has other run the bids up for them. This is the guild who brags cuz they are loaded yet doesnt give the people a chance who walk many hours finding the idocs. Yes *** has been paged on and nothing was done so I am taking all of my stuff to luna and throwing it in the trash so it can never reach the hands of the scripters. EA doesnt care anymore so why pay for a game that to have fun you have to script....I'm not.

Here is a thought. If UO has degenerated to the point where the only thing you do is stand around waiting for houses to fall to pick up items other people have acquired - maybe you SHOULD be done with the game.

Devs - make it so IDOCs just delete all items. Problems SOLVED.

 

[Amathist]

I have always been opposed to scripts, I do not see the point in playing a game if you wish to cheat and that is just simply how I see it. You truly seem to have a heart for the game but are letting it be clouded by the actions of others.

Have you considered moving shards? I don't think you will ever find one that is 100% cheat free but you can certainly find one that is less affected by it.

 

[popps]

Here is a thought. If UO has degenerated to the point where the only thing you do is stand around waiting for houses to fall to pick up items other people have acquired - maybe you SHOULD be done with the game.

Devs - make it so IDOCs just delete all items. Problems SOLVED.

Well, the problem would not be solved unless the causes which motivated players to seek IDOCs are also dealt with.

And what are they ?

The need for large wealth (tens if not hundreds of millions....) to be competitive, particularly in PvP.

Unfortunately, the game since it was changed from skill based into item based, has developed an outrageous inflation where items needed to be competitive in PvP can cost close to 100 millions for a single item !!

Clearly, only those with enormous wealth in the game can outfit themselves to always have the best modifiers for all situations and thus, be competitive in the game.

It goes without saying that in an item based game, having the best items with the highest modifiers often can ensure winning fights......

This is the real problem of the game, the fact that there is a necessity, if one wants to be competitive in fighting, to accumulate enormous wealth and amounts of gold.

IDOCs only are a way to find this wealth faster.

The other problem, is also the issue with selling some UO items or gold for real money.

If also this was not possible, I think the seeking for IDOCs would also decrease.

 

[Petra Fyde]

I think we'll call a halt to this one.