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Wilde1
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Ive farmed several hours and have about 6 of each. They do drop there, just horribly slowly. I hope the drop rate gets adjusted on some of these drops.
There are 10 different uncommon drops on ratmen in the cavern of the discarded (not including the essence) ... the seeds and cloth are only 2 of them.
(I can't help but feel there will eventually be another way to get them)
(I can't help but feel there will eventually be another way to get them)
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I've gotten the seeds this past weekend... however it seems at least on LS, the cavern spawn is horribly broken as it refuses to move past the level 1 spawn and into the ratmen themselves tonight, thus nothing drop-wise.
I've gotten the seeds this past weekend... however it seems at least on LS, the cavern spawn is horribly broken as it refuses to move past the level 1 spawn and into the ratmen themselves tonight, thus nothing drop-wise.
Good god there better be. Or at least amp up the drop rate, cause that **** is ridiculous. I got one balance and some eyes in an hour and a half of running around in that spawn.
You should have gotten a LOT of eyes. Everything drops there that's supposed to.
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maroite
Guest
They don't drop of the rats or wolves or scorpions.
Cloth I have usually found off the first wave of rats or the second wave. Same with seeds of renewal.
Tamers are useless for farming that btw. If you want a quick farm, get a samurai with a Soul Seeker and whirlwind away.
Both seem to be pretty slow drops though. I think the most I cloth I have recieved in one sitting is 10, and that was going through 7 different spawns.
The renowned rats are also rediculous. The best spawn is probably the one to the south, where the wolves spawn. They over all seem to be the easiest/fastest to kill.
Cloth I have usually found off the first wave of rats or the second wave. Same with seeds of renewal.
Tamers are useless for farming that btw. If you want a quick farm, get a samurai with a Soul Seeker and whirlwind away.
Both seem to be pretty slow drops though. I think the most I cloth I have recieved in one sitting is 10, and that was going through 7 different spawns.
The renowned rats are also rediculous. The best spawn is probably the one to the south, where the wolves spawn. They over all seem to be the easiest/fastest to kill.
I've been using a samurai with a soul seeker, spamming whirlwind, spent most of my time in the southeast area. Looted everything I was allowed to, didn't see any ingredients. I was looking for anything that I'd never seen before, so I know I didn't just miss them. Template:
120 swords
120 bushido
120 tactics (+13 from ring)
120 anatomy
100 healing (+11 from brace)
99 necro
65 chivalry
60 DI from talisman + jewelry, using a soul seeker for whirlwind. Total of 45 DCI and HCI, 150+ dex, 140 strength, 10 intelligence. So I'm fine as far as killing them goes. I just can't find any ingredients, it's ridiculous.
120 swords
120 bushido
120 tactics (+13 from ring)
120 anatomy
100 healing (+11 from brace)
99 necro
65 chivalry
60 DI from talisman + jewelry, using a soul seeker for whirlwind. Total of 45 DCI and HCI, 150+ dex, 140 strength, 10 intelligence. So I'm fine as far as killing them goes. I just can't find any ingredients, it's ridiculous.
Here's a quick summary of the creatures in each of the three areas in the Cavern of the Discarded. Unfortunately, the spawn is really messed up on a lot of shards because people refuse to fight the mini-bosses (Vitavi, Tikitavi, and Rakktavi). They pull them away from the area, completely stalling any spawn progress for anyone else that visits the area until the next server maintenance. Vitavi is especially rare and when he's gone missing, you can stand and kill plague rats until the cows come home without seeing anything else spawn in the area.
Clan Ribbon:
Clan Ribbon:
- Plague Rats (Drop minor amounts of gold, about 35 gp.)
- Supplicants (passive) (Randomly drop imbuing ingredients and other odd loot, as well as small amounts of gold.)
- Courtiers (Randomly drop imbuing ingredients and other odd loot, modest amounts of gold.)
- Vitavi. Lots of hit points (30k-40k) and uses mysticism. Randomly drops imbuing ingredients and other odd loot as well as a ridiculously small amount of gold and no other usable loot. Minute chance to receive an "artifact" for killing it. The "artifact" may spawn on the ground.
- Savage Wolves (Drop reflective eyes, an imbuing ingredients)
- Scroungers (passive) (Randomly drop imbuing ingredients and other odd loot.)
- Henchrats (Randomly drop imbuing ingredients and other odd loot.)
- Tikitavi. Nothing special about it other than lots of hit points (estimated 30,000 - 40,000). Minute chance to receive an "artifact" for killing it, which may spawn on the ground. Randomly drops imbuing ingredients and other odd loot and a small amount of gold.
- Clockwork scorpions (Drop modest amounts of gold, about 65 gp.)
- Assistants (passive) (Randomly drop imbuing ingredients and other odd loot, as well as a small pile of arrows.)
- Tinkerers (Randomly drop imbuing ingredients and other odd loot, as well as a small pile of arrows and modest amount of gold.)
- Rakktavi. Spawns about 10 clockwork scorpions. Has no magery or other spellcasting ability, but has a high amount of hit points, estimated at about 30k-40k. Uses a bow. Minute chance to receive an "artifact" for killing it, which may spawn on the ground. Randomly drops imbuing ingredients and other odd loot, as well as an insanely low amount of gold.
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Ahh... that's what has LS screwed up tonight... someone being a complete moron... got it.
Ahh... that's what has LS screwed up tonight... someone being a complete moron... got it.
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maroite
Guest
Vitavi doesn't use Spellweaving. Or at least he never has on me. He uses Mysticism. He LOVES casting Spell Plague on you, which can be annoying if you're in the zone of spamming lightning strike and don't realize he put Spell Plague up on you.
Ack, you're right! Been fighting too many other things lately that use spellweaving and it's been too long since I've been able to actually find a Vitavi to kill.
Sorry for the bad info.
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Astrel
Guest
It's not exactly correct that tamers are useless at the Discarded spawn. Using my 6 GM dog I got over 20 of every ingredient within a few days. I have also tried my swords char using a Repond slayer but having to go back and forth for repairs is tiresome, plus the val armor on my swampy wore off in around 30 mins.
On the rare occasion that I get swamped and cannot heal my pet fast enough I just cast pm mount the dog and teleport out. However, most of the time I can take on the whole spawn solo, including the renowneds, you just have to pick your spot.
I have noticed that occasionaly a Henchrat will get stuck in one of the garbage filled ruins, so you have to teleport in to kill him, otherwise the spawn will not proceed.
The favored attack by swordsmen is to use an area affect weapon, this then pulls the spawn around them, rather than having to go chase them one by one.
On the rare occasion that I get swamped and cannot heal my pet fast enough I just cast pm mount the dog and teleport out. However, most of the time I can take on the whole spawn solo, including the renowneds, you just have to pick your spot.
I have noticed that occasionaly a Henchrat will get stuck in one of the garbage filled ruins, so you have to teleport in to kill him, otherwise the spawn will not proceed.
The favored attack by swordsmen is to use an area affect weapon, this then pulls the spawn around them, rather than having to go chase them one by one.
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RavenWinterHawk
Guest
The rate is fine.
Keep it as is.
We dont need more of everything. We need rarity.
And the ingredients are not rare. I have plenty. Doing the spawn way less then above.
You have to catch them from the start. I usually get 5-7 items.
Sometimes a week and no abyssal. Next time 3 in a row. They arent rare. Its just luck.
Keep it as is.
We dont need more of everything. We need rarity.
And the ingredients are not rare. I have plenty. Doing the spawn way less then above.
You have to catch them from the start. I usually get 5-7 items.
Sometimes a week and no abyssal. Next time 3 in a row. They arent rare. Its just luck.
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maroite
Guest
They can do it. I never meant they couldn't. Its just slow. Especially when Vitavi spawns. It takes a long time spamming 120-150 damage hits on my samurai to kill him, and it takes even longer on a tamer imo thus I personally feel its useless to use a tamer over my samurai.
Also, it doesn't take long to get to the spawn if you go through the Tomb of Kings. I have a recall to right outside the tomb. When I need to repair, I SJ out, repair, drop off reagents, then SJ to outside the Tomb, and run in... takes maybe 2 mins or less to run back to the spawn.
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HeathBar
Guest
The Cavern of Discarded is the bane of my Imbuer's existence. All the other areas are reliable with what they drop but the rats drop so many things that getting the one ingredient you are looking for seems like an exercise in futility. Plus all the rude sampires stealing kills and hording the spawn doesn't help either.
I've still not seen a single ingredient from that area other than reflective wolf eyes and a few essences of balance. They're too rare.
Raven, the problem is that on some of the shards with populations that aren't as large as Atlantic's, people are getting away with just luring the mini-bosses away because they "take too long" to kill. That kills the spawn rate for anyone else that comes along the rest of the day and wants to hunt there. The nitwits that do it get to finish off the second- and third-level spawn and then move on. I guess they must have big plans to sell the stuff they acquired at ridiculous prices and laugh at how no one else was able to get anything. Player greed strikes yet again.
this place is hella broken, i been down there almost everyday for 2 weeks, ive gotten 1 cloth, 3 crushed glass, 2 void essence, and a bunch of essence of balance..
the spawn often stops or just dies out for no reason.. sometimes the renowned guy walks off around the mountain area so you have to go find it.
the drop rate is so slow for what you get its horrible.. everywhere else in the abyss you can get a decent drop rate on imbuing ingrediants.. maybe except for the fearie dust.. this is becuse you kill about 10 fearie dragons and the wyvrns spwan and you kill about 5 of those and the renowned spawns.
its way too fast.
the spawn often stops or just dies out for no reason.. sometimes the renowned guy walks off around the mountain area so you have to go find it.
the drop rate is so slow for what you get its horrible.. everywhere else in the abyss you can get a decent drop rate on imbuing ingrediants.. maybe except for the fearie dust.. this is becuse you kill about 10 fearie dragons and the wyvrns spwan and you kill about 5 of those and the renowned spawns.
its way too fast.