Died to MD + JSV Alliance :(

[N49ATV]

...What was the score when Crus was at war with TNT 500 to 200??

Like Kael said, close to 2:1 ratio. And there was several nights CRUS wrecked TnT2. I do recall a recruit post because we worked you so bad, that Tib needed more mages.

Also, your guys ran arties more then any of us. Most had one SB arty, and quiet a few of your guys ran multi arty suits.

And I died quiet a few times in that 2:1 ratio. Several times were well AFK hidden at a vendor or something (yes its my own fault).

And several times while fighting Neo on the lawn in Luna, i would red line him 1v1, and off screen he ran west. Id stay, heal up, med, and wait. Sure enough back he would come precasting. One night, I had him on the run atleast 10 times. And eventually he would kill me, because I had enough honor, and pride not to run from a 1:1 fight because I was low health. This happened quiet a bit late in the evenings.

There were a few dexers id fight over and over, and get killed, but it was fun.\

I dont think it was bad for a full PvP guild, vs one with a few full PvPers, and the rest were just there to have fun and learn.

 

[Essence of Siege]

Defination of Condone- To overlook, forgive, or disregard (an offense) without protest or censure

Defination of a dead shard- no one playing

Defination of trying to have some fun on a dead shard- fighting anyone out there that is pvping

Don't make me try to defend M-D because I would prefer not to...however, again I don't think everyone in M-D uses tainted methods. A couple of members we ( as in WE that pvp and fight against them ) suspect of cheating.

I'm guess I'm still waiting for the 'protest or censure' part. Because so far all I see is the without.

I guess your 'protest or censure' is that you would prefer not to defend M-D.

*golf claps*

Excellent protest there, you really made it known you're opposed to cheating.

*shrugs*

Have fun playing with the cheaters, I'm assuming all the 'zoom zoom' and all those accusations are going to never appear now? Since everyone is just so happy people are PvPing...

 

[Black magick]

They are both representatives of their respective groups...

Anyway, I never said it was an alliance between two guilds, so don't get all hot and bothered. I called it what it is, a field alliance. You can have a field alliance between an entire guild and one member from another guild, or have huge field alliances with numerous guilds involved.

You also have a field alliance when two members from seperate guilds work together towards a goal, be it pvp or pvm...neither guild is required to respect the "field alliance," as it's generally known, during or after the completion of said goal.

However, I would hope anyone in my guild would respect a temporary alliance called by another member for any reason, at any time. We trust one another like that

If a random NEW goes out and kills a crafter, does that represent NEW as a whole or just that character?

 

[T'Challa]

If a random NEW goes out and kills a crafter, does that represent NEW as a whole or just that character?

They won't be representing NEW for long, as Shalimar would kick them out.

Your analogy is flawed.

 

[Shalimar/Cleo]

If a random NEW goes out and kills a crafter, does that represent NEW as a whole or just that character?

They won't be representing NEW for long, as Shalimar would kick them out.

Your analogy is flawed.

Absolutely, as long as the crafter didn't attack the NEW first. I don't have any misguided loyalties, break the rules, yer out.

 

[Black magick]

They won't be representing NEW for long, as Shalimar would kick them out.

Your analogy is flawed.

No it isn't. With how much people flip flop guilds, and I'll admit I've been in quite a few, there is no telling how long they will be in that guild. As well as how RL goes, they could be here one day and gone the next. *shrugs* Not a highly probable case, but it is valid none the less. Besides, if you want to make an alliance with guild X, do you go to just any guild member? If you are right and the person in the guild represents the guild as a whole, shouldn't you do so? Or do you go to the leaders, the real representatives of the guild?

 

[T'Challa]

who is your game character? Don't think I've seen you on the field...

Just call me "non-factor" everyone else does

Main acct is T'Challa, crafter is Dancing Bears.

plus many past characters...I stopped actively pvping around '04-'05 though...too many 'sploits and hacks. Now I am currently weaving my fortune around my empire on Siege and basically kickin' it.

I've only run in two guilds on Siege, I^A (currently active) and The Wakayama/Yamamoto Clans (non-active)

*bows*

There ya go.

/Ru

 

[T'Challa]

No it isn't. With how much people flip flop guilds, and I'll admit I've been in quite a few, there is no telling how long they will be in that guild. As well as how RL goes, they could be here one day and gone the next. *shrugs* Not a highly probable case, but it is valid none the less. Besides, if you want to make an alliance with guild X, do you go to just any guild member? If you are right and the person in the guild represents the guild as a whole, shouldn't you do so? Or do you go to the leaders, the real representatives of the guild?

Huh?

A field alliance also usually ends after that single encounter...

Here's an example:

I^A and TNT have clashed for years, yet Shay'Lei/Lil'Ru and I are good friends. Were we to encounter one another "on the field" and one of us came under attack from say, SP!, what do you think would happen? One would help the other. That is a "field alliance"

To take it a step further, if I were the one under attack, and Ru called in say, Krystal (we clash, mmmk?) to help us out, and she did...that would be a further "field alliance"

Krystal might PK me farming later that night. Hence the end of the "field alliance"

Capiche?

 

[Black magick]

A field alliance between the two, I can agree with. I didn't know if you were implying, like the initial poster, that it was between the guilds as a whole.

 

[Mook Chessy]

This is out of character for you to come here to the boards like this. Both guilds out numbered each other a few times the other night when I was on. Both sides got kills. Never did you guys come out 4 vs 8 and we all know that.
Hell at one time there were what six of you all stealth Archers? I think even you had hide/stealth. Only one with balls was Mono on his mage. I came out with 90 anatomy and 72 parry just to get a few fights. Let's get it together and keep this civil shall we.

As far as CRUS you guys got ALOT of kills on new players just trying to learn pvp. It was a whole other story when I came onto the field and we all know that to be true. Don't bash CRUS for trying to learn pvp instead encourage the new people instead of driving them away.

You are correct, my reason for the post is to rebut the poster not the guild.

If you or verum or any of the other actual pvpers came here and posted I would have no problem.

When the posts come from players that have little pvp ability it jars me!

I pointed out the Server Wars because at that time many of the posters where exposed and I want them to remember that when it was time to walk the walk the died like dogs!

I guess I just want people to actually be able to fight at least half as well as they post.

Anyone who has a probelm with this please meet me in game, I will gladly fight anyone who wishes 1v1.

 

[Diablo FTW]

You are correct, my reason for the post is to rebut the poster not the guild.

If you or verum or any of the other actual pvpers came here and posted I would have no problem.

When the posts come from players that have little pvp ability it jars me!

I pointed out the Server Wars because at that time many of the posters where exposed and I want them to remember that when it was time to walk the walk the died like dogs!

I guess I just want people to actually be able to fight at least half as well as they post.

Anyone who has a probelm with this please meet me in game, I will gladly fight anyone who wishes 1v1.

Lol... tnt is always outnumbering people, that the only way to win, or kill someone, you killed me twice ?, well one time for real , 5 archer, and other i was naked, so it doesnt count like a kill

 

[Mook Chessy]

Lol... tnt is always outnumbering people, that the only way to win, or kill someone, you killed me twice ?, well one time for real , 5 archer, and other i was naked, so it doesnt count like a kill

anytime you want to 1v1 let me know

no walls, caves, fields, pets or traps...

well guess that leaves nothing for you to tele or run to so we done!

 

[Tairon]

Lol... tnt is always outnumbering people, that the only way to win, or kill someone, you killed me twice ?, well one time for real , 5 archer, and other i was naked, so it doesnt count like a kill

Not sure what shard you are on because I am TNT and I am constantly fighting against odds, and I don't run hide/stealth. You won't ever flag on me even when you have numbers, you just lurk around waiting to get hit then run into a house. It takes five archers to kill you because we need to line up between you and your house so we each get one shot as you run to it........

 

[Diablo FTW]

LOL 1 V 1 ANYTIME NOOB BOYS

 

[Fanta(Siege)]

Not sure what shard you are on because I am TNT and I am constantly fighting against odds, and I don't run hide/stealth. You won't ever flag on me even when you have numbers, you just lurk around waiting to get hit then run into a house. It takes five archers to kill you because we need to line up between you and your house so we each get one shot as you run to it........

Tairon/Noriat... Hmmmmmm arent you that dismount stealther? of course you stealth buddy lol

 

[Scuzzlebutt]

Tairon/Noriat... Hmmmmmm arent you that dismount stealther? of course you stealth buddy lol

He is a dismounter, he does have ninja, but he's not a stealther. He runs his template well and in my opinion is one of the hardest players to kill on the field, even on a shown template.

 

[Fanta(Siege)]

He is a dismounter, he does have ninja, but he's not a stealther. He runs his template well and in my opinion is one of the hardest players to kill on the field, even on a shown template.

hmm ok i was pretty sure noriat ran stealth but ok ... never thought of him as one of the hardest on the fields to kill as he seemed to die pretty easy... but ok i have nothing against him he is a good pvper who does not crap talk

 

[Elmer Fudd]

I bring this up because I am sick of TNT getting bashed! We are know better or worse then any other guild

Cmon bro, you guys have built the perfect ganking templates, if these temps wouldnt have worked, you would all run stealth tammers....oh wait, you have already done that....lol


I think this is such a funny post....ROFLMAO

I love you Mook, you are at least good for a great laugh.....

If we all ran your templates, Hiding/Stealthing Moving Shot archers, how would we all know we were out there to fight??? someone has to have the balls to be seen...if you guys dont like your odds and are scared, you just leave, if you all dont get your "Quick" loot quick kill, you smoke and leave...

If you think you have gained the advantage over your opposition, then you all pop out and fight then pound your chests at how great you are...lol

You have mastered the art of having or trying to have all the advantage, I have rarely since Ive been back ever even seen your whole force actually seen!!!

Except when its time to loot, then you see how many of you there actually are....im wetting myself this is so funny

 

[Calibretto]

He is a dismounter, he does have ninja, but he's not a stealther. He runs his template well and in my opinion is one of the hardest players to kill on the field, even on a shown template.

Agreed.


Tairon is good at what he does.

 

[Kage]

Yep I agree. I have a great deal of respect for Tairon. He is the only dismounter who doesn't run hide and stealth. If there is another then I apologize...

And if I ever do decide to play a dismounter I would run his template.