Dev's Please!!

[Elaysia]

Yeah, then just include mailboxes for players as house add-on and then everyone can decide self to use it period.

Agreed, the mailbox is something that crafters can create, fun stuff. I mean bulletin boards are great. I came up with that suggestion... So I am not going to knock it, but this was before I had been introduced to world chat AND when UO's banks were filled to the brim with people. I mean any bank, not just Brit bank.

 

[Elaysia]

The reason UO needs this system in place today ladies and gentlemen. Is because when returning players and new players alike enter UO for the first time. The place looks barren. I know this isn't the case though because when I run around. I see people in their houses. When I came back I got scared...every single bank was empty and Luna was scarce to say the least. I felt very lonely and thought no one was playing. However, I do know there are people, but what of those "new" players that everyone keeps saying they want.

Ultima Online is like a child to me. I want to nourish it when I see it faltering. I want good things for it. I don't want to add things that aren't going to enhance and make it for the better. My top list to make UO better and to see it come alive again are as follows:

1. World Chat

2. In-game Mailing system. Post office for the win!

3. Make UO free up to AOS or even Samurai Empire. This does not include housing, must have a sub to have housing and to make other unique playable characters.. such as Elf's, Gargoyles and whatever else might be in the works.

4. Ridable Greater Dragons- LOL, okay this isn't in the major list. It's the wouldn't that be cool and beneficial list. =P

 

[Elaysia]

No thanks. We've got enough spam as it is with books being dropped at every bank and moongate. Mail would be nothing but constant spam.




And have to endure more of the endless, idiotic Chuck Norris jokes all freaking day and night again? Not to mention the juvenile crap that's spouted in Fel. No thanks.

Okay again, what you stubborn folks aren't getting is that... it could be turned off. So, really makes all this moot. Know what I mean? There are many that will benefit from this. Also, I think the people that say nay would be the first one's using it.. WHY? because they are the most vocal, lol.

 

[JC the Builder]

And there is a reason people do not use it.. It is very, very large window and covers up pretty much half your screen, you can't see or do anything.. WHY would people use it!?

You can and always have had the ability to resize the chat windows.

 

[Elaysia]

You can and always have had the ability to resize the chat windows.

Okay, I do remember that now. Most new and returning players are going to be using the enhanced client. The system needs to be implemented for today's UO standards.


BTW, I haven't said just how much great work the Dev's put into our new menu system and added touches. They have put ALOT of work into perfectly blending new with old. The rain in moonglow is awesome. Hotbars, macro's and so many new things I find that tells me they WANT to move UO forward, but the Vet's sadly are what hold UO back. They are scared to run them off for fear of losing players, but it's a double edged sword. They are also the reason that UO is held back and prevents new players from enjoying the game us Vet's have for years.

 

[Drawde2]

I think the main problem the devs had with a global chat is that characters can have the same name. There's no way to link, on the player's side, who said what. Which makes an ignore option unworkable.

Global chat is something I miss from playing EQ. Following, and sometimes joining, the conversations while doing something repetative helps the time pass better. Not to mention the people simply asking questions about something you can help with a few lines of speech.

A guild chat ingame helps. No idea how well it works though, since I'm not in a guild. But being able to talk to guildmembers really helps.

 

[Kri]

I think the main problem the devs had with a global chat is that characters can have the same name. There's no way to link, on the player's side, who said what. Which makes an ignore option unworkable.

Every character has a unique identifier. I'd wager that that is the number in front of the name you see in the screenshot above.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Okay again, what you stubborn folks aren't getting is that... it could be turned off. So, really makes all this moot.

What you aren't getting is that most people would have it turned off, making it pretty much useless to begin with. No need to waste Dev time on something that only a small fraction of the playerbase would use.

Know what I mean? There are many that will benefit from this. Also, I think the people that say nay would be the first one's using it.. WHY? because they are the most vocal, lol.

Nope. I'd turn them off. I hated them in WoW, I'd hate them even more in UO.

 

[Elaysia]

What you aren't getting is that most people would have it turned off, making it pretty much useless to begin with. No need to waste Dev time on something that only a small fraction of the playerbase would use.




Nope. I'd turn them off. I hated them in WoW, I'd hate them even more in UO.

Hmm, why do you think UO would be like WoW? I seen a few comments already like that. UO is no WoW, never has been never will be. So comments like this is wasting my time.

 

[FelixxBlack]

What you aren't getting is that most people would have it turned off, making it pretty much useless to begin with. No need to waste Dev time on something that only a small fraction of the playerbase would use.




Nope. I'd turn them off. I hated them in WoW, I'd hate them even more in UO.

Actually most people would have them turned on as it would be something they are used to having with pretty much every other game out there. Plus it lets you know that other people are playing when you can literally run around almost every tram city and not see another player. If you want to turn off the chat in a chat room then you shouldnt really be in there eh.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Actually most people would have them turned on as it would be something they are used to having with pretty much every other game out there.

Not UO players. Most UO players have been playing UO for years and don't spend much time, if any, with other games. I've been playing 5 yrs myself, with an 11 month break where I gave WoW a shot. I came back to UO and it was like getting a breath of fresh air after spending a year in the sewers underneath Restroom Cowboy's house...

 

[Elaysia]

Not UO players. Most UO players have been playing UO for years and don't spend much time, if any, with other games. I've been playing 5 yrs myself, with an 11 month break where I gave WoW a shot. I came back to UO and it was like getting a breath of fresh air after spending a year in the sewers underneath Restroom Cowboy's house...

I remember you Connor and most people including yourself referenced WoW, which means you played and you cheated on UO! lol not really, but you see the majority have played other games besides UO. Making that statement is seriously flawed. Most UO'ers are hardcore gamers.

 

[FelixxBlack]

Not UO players. Most UO players have been playing UO for years and don't spend much time, if any, with other games. I've been playing 5 yrs myself, with an 11 month break where I gave WoW a shot. I came back to UO and it was like getting a breath of fresh air after spending a year in the sewers underneath Restroom Cowboy's house...

Actually saying "most" in relation to UO players is inaccurate. The UO player base has been steadily shrinking over the last 5 years so you have been playing through the decline. I played before that when you could barely move in at brit bank because of all the chat. What all you nay sayers need to realize is that UO is dying because it cant compete with all the other high graphics games that are on the market now. So rather than trying to shoot down other peoples ideas why don't you make suggestions on how they could get people back to the game. Be constructive. Anything else is just a waste of text.

 

[Elaysia]

Actually saying "most" in relation to UO players is inaccurate. The UO player base has been steadily shrinking over the last 5 years so you have been playing through the decline. I played before that when you could barely move in at brit bank because of all the chat. What all you nay sayers need to realize is that UO is dying because it cant compete with all the other high graphics games that are on the market now. So rather than trying to shoot down other peoples ideas why don't you make suggestions on how they could get people back to the game. Be constructive. Anything else is just a waste of text.

Well, to be honest. UO is by far the most content you will get out of a game and there are alot of people that love UO's graphics comparatively. They love the old style, but that doesn't mean you can't implement new stuff to keep it fresh and "enhance" the game.

 

[Corpse]

Once again, I would like to see this In UO.


I've really only played UO and SWG the past 9 years, And in the time i spent on SWG I never got one spam mail from anyone. It was very convienent for sales, and meeting up for player partys.[ If i remember correctly you could even send cross server mail]

I also liked how you can switch the chat filter to just guild chat/ local chat/ world chat/ group chat.

I also agree, that this is highly needed in UO.
Firstly for new players to find they're way..With the population as it is.. it can be tuff to find someone to help orientate you.

Second: I would love to be able to group up with random people on chat to do a spawn/peerless whatever. I dont really enjoy guilds in UO, Last time I can remember even having fun in one was when chaos/order was still around.
So being able to find others to group up with in chat would be great occasionally.

Third: there is no reason not to do this, the current chat is absolute crap.
Revamp it or get rid of it.

 

[Elaysia]

Once again, I would like to see this In UO.


I've really only played UO and SWG the past 9 years, And in the time i spent on SWG I never got one spam mail from anyone. It was very convienent for sales, and meeting up for player partys.[ If i remember correctly you could even send cross server mail]

I also liked how you can switch the chat filter to just guild chat/ local chat/ world chat/ group chat.

I also agree, that this is highly needed in UO.
Firstly for new players to find they're way..With the population as it is.. it can be tuff to find someone to help orientate you.

Second: I would love to be able to group up with random people on chat to do a spawn/peerless whatever. I dont really enjoy guilds in UO, Last time I can remember even having fun in one was when chaos/order was still around.
So being able to find others to group up with in chat would be great occasionally.

Third: there is no reason not to do this, the current chat is absolute crap.
Revamp it or get rid of it.

Absolutely, I am not in a guild either and I have seen people running around guildless. I KNOW that there are many that aren't here on stratics that would agree with a chat system such as this. Besides, how many guilds are left, besides a major few? Even if I wanted to recreate my guild at this point, I can't find anyone to recruit! Reason is because I can't find the hot spots. This is a huge problem for returning and new players. It's just not working.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Hmm, why do you think UO would be like WoW? I seen a few comments already like that. UO is no WoW, never has been never will be.

I never said UO would be like WoW. If you're going to respond to me, please respond to what I write, not what others do.

So comments like this is wasting my time.

Tough ****. So sorry my opinion doesn't meet your expectations. Responses such as this waste my time.

 

[Connor_Graham]

What all you nay sayers need to realize is that UO is dying because it cant compete with all the other high graphics games that are on the market now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been hearing the "UO is dying" spiel since the first day I started playing. UO's subscriber base has remained pretty much constant for the past 5 yrs. I don't know where you get your facts from, but according to the man in charge, the player base is about the same size now as it was when I first started playing.

 

[Elaysia]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been hearing the "UO is dying" spiel since the first day I started playing. UO's subscriber base has remained pretty much constant for the past 5 yrs. I don't know where you get your facts from, but according to the man in charge, the player base is about the same size now as it was when I first started playing.

Okay, please don't make this into a fight. I really want this to be a constructive thread. You are starting to get heated up here. No need whatsoever. Honestly, we don't need statistics okay.

Look at it this way, when I go to the old lands there isn't anyone there. Returning players are coming to a very quiet UO. One where there is no one at the banks or the old hot spots. The reason I would assume is because everyone is busy with the new stuff. Now, if the Dev's really wanted to step up the player base. They could do that easily by offering UO free up to a certain point, this would fill up those empty areas very nicely. Of course, having a sub has many benefits, including housing. This in and of itself would insure Vet's would continue to pay for their subs. No one is going to want to lose their house and belongings. On top of that, they already have in place a cash shop so to speak. Really UO was the first to come up with this system. Buying extra items. With a sub, comes vet rewards and all the things that Vet's have worked hard for. Now, on top of that with the world chat and mailing system and we could see UO fill up quite quickly. Those that are familiar with this type of system also know that, More players=more fun... More fun +more players = More subs
People go where there are people, this is true.

 

[Tina Small]

Elaysia, I can only speak for myself when I tell you the following. I hope it helps you understand where I'm coming from with my mostly negative feelings about a mail system or a chat system in UO.

I'm 50 years old and married for 25+ years. My daughter and her two very young sons (5 and 2 years old) just recently moved home with us. I've also got a stepdaughter who's in her late 30s and a teenage granddaughter.

I've been well exposed to text messages and things like Facebook because of my kids and a few other friends. Unfortunately, they just don't really appeal to me. What smacks me in the face every time I log on Facebook is all the personal information some people post that I really don't wish to know. Do I want to know your baby's cranky today for the 25th day in a row? No, not really because I can't do anything to help you with the situation since you live clear across the country from me! Do I care that you can't decide what to make for dinner again today for the 300th day in a row? NO!!

I've had e-mail accounts, both personal and work-related, now for many years. I think the oldest account's creeping up on it's 20th anniversary. I've been using personal instant messaging systems for about five years now, but used work-related systems even before then.

I'm not sure how long I've been using voice mail. Seems like I remember getting that at work, oh gosh, I want to say back in about 1982 or 1983. And home answering machines have probably been around at least as long as that.

I've never played WoW. Have been invited to many times. However, it has no appeal for me, probably because of the huge number of people who currently play. After working for 25+ years in a huge corporation with over 35,000 employees, I had more than my fill of living life as a faceless number, thank you very much.

At this point in my life, I enjoy UO because it isn't so large that I ever feel lost within it. I have friends that I enjoy doing things with almost nightly. We stay connected via ICQ, Teamspeak, and even regular old e-mail once in a while. I have a wonderful time doing stuff with my guildmates and other friends I've made in UO, and wouldn't trade them for the world.

However, I also enjoy the fact that there is a lot of stuff in the game that I can do on my own, and then jump right out of and switch over to doing things as a group or even just as a pair or a trio. I love having that kind of flexibility. And I guess the fact that at least half the time I'm playing solo is probably a reflection of my (mostly) introverted personality type. I love interacting with other people, but mostly in measured and controlled doses. My family is who I wish to give myself to on a more complete basis. The grandkids can hog me for themselves for most of the day, as can my daughters and husband if they need to. But I truly have no desire to give myself unreservedly over to a bunch of people who are basically strangers to me. Nope, the walls stay up most of the time and I'm afraid that's not likely to ever change unless I undergo some kind of drastic personality change due to illness or injury.

Sorry this is long, but I thought maybe it might help you understand where I'm coming from when I try to explain why I would rarely find myself using a global chat system or mail system in UO. It would be far too intrusive for me to want to leave either one active for very long. And with all the other communication systems that already exist in my life, I really don't want the responsibility, however slight or unimportant it really is in the grander scheme of things, to keep monitoring either one. UO's "low-tech" approach to communication may be quirky and anachronistic to many; however, for me it is a welcome relief. Forcing me to have to endure watching an endless stream of chat flowing through the game window or journal would be just about as painful as having to play UO with a television set sitting behind me that no one ever turns off.

 

[Tina Small]

People go where there are people, this is true.

This depends very much on your personality type, Elaysia. Some of us have a very strong preference for doing things in small groups that consist mostly of trusted friends. We have enough opportunities elsewhere to interact with loud, noisy and often rude strangers.

 

[FelixxBlack]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been hearing the "UO is dying" spiel since the first day I started playing. UO's subscriber base has remained pretty much constant for the past 5 yrs. I don't know where you get your facts from, but according to the man in charge, the player base is about the same size now as it was when I first started playing.

Since Ultima Online's prime in 2003, the overall subscriber base has seen a steady decline. Subscriber numbers peaked at around 250,000 in July 2003, and to date sit around 135,000 subscribers (approximately 70,000 of whom are Japanese).[2] As of June 2006, Ultima Online held a 1.1% market share of the massively multiplayer online game subscriptions.[

and more currently check out this page for a nice graph http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html

 

[Alvinho]

World chat!

ya baby, Ill tell EVERYBODY to shop at my vendors every 20 seconds!

Attention (enter shard) Pawain is now haveing a blue light special, Special includes items in the fields of (whatever is on sale) this sale will last for the next 45 RL minutes not ingame minutes, hurry and enjoy the saveings at Pawains shop, located at xxxx xxxx (whatever facet)



Ohh I kinda like it!!!

 

[FelixxBlack]

So anyway no one should have a problem with these new suggestions as long as you can turn them off. That seems to be the only thing people are unhappy with is that they might get stuck listening to a bunch of extra chat.

 

[Elaysia]

Elaysia, I can only speak for myself when I tell you the following. I hope it helps you understand where I'm coming from with my mostly negative feelings about a mail system or a chat system in UO.

I'm 50 years old and married for 25+ years. My daughter and her two very young sons (5 and 2 years old) just recently moved home with us. I've also got a stepdaughter who's in her late 30s and a teenage granddaughter.

I've been well exposed to text messages and things like Facebook because of my kids and a few other friends. Unfortunately, they just don't really appeal to me. What smacks me in the face every time I log on Facebook is all the personal information some people post that I really don't wish to know. Do I want to know your baby's cranky today for the 25th day in a row? No, not really because I can't do anything to help you with the situation since you live clear across the country from me! Do I care that you can't decide what to make for dinner again today for the 300th day in a row? NO!!

I've had e-mail accounts, both personal and work-related, now for many years. I think the oldest account's creeping up on it's 20th anniversary. I've been using personal instant messaging systems for about five years now, but used work-related systems even before then.

I'm not sure how long I've been using voice mail. Seems like I remember getting that at work, oh gosh, I want to say back in about 1982 or 1983. And home answering machines have probably been around at least as long as that.

I've never played WoW. Have been invited to many times. However, it has no appeal for me, probably because of the huge number of people who currently play. After working for 25+ years in a huge corporation with over 35,000 employees, I had more than my fill of living life as a faceless number, thank you very much.

At this point in my life, I enjoy UO because it isn't so large that I ever feel lost within it. I have friends that I enjoy doing things with almost nightly. We stay connected via ICQ, Teamspeak, and even regular old e-mail once in a while. I have a wonderful time doing stuff with my guildmates and other friends I've made in UO, and wouldn't trade them for the world.

However, I also enjoy the fact that there is a lot of stuff in the game that I can do on my own, and then jump right out of and switch over to doing things as a group or even just as a pair or a trio. I love having that kind of flexibility. And I guess the fact that at least half the time I'm playing solo is probably a reflection of my (mostly) introverted personality type. I love interacting with other people, but mostly in measured and controlled doses. My family is who I wish to give myself to on a more complete basis. The grandkids can hog me for themselves for most of the day, as can my daughters and husband if they need to. But I truly have no desire to give myself unreservedly over to a bunch of people who are basically strangers to me. Nope, the walls stay up most of the time and I'm afraid that's not likely to ever change unless I undergo some kind of drastic personality change due to illness or injury.

Sorry this is long, but I thought maybe it might help you understand where I'm coming from when I try to explain why I would rarely find myself using a global chat system or mail system in UO. It would be far too intrusive for me to want to leave either one active for very long. And with all the other communication systems that already exist in my life, I really don't want the responsibility, however slight or unimportant it really is in the grander scheme of things, to keep monitoring either one. UO's "low-tech" approach to communication may be quirky and anachronistic to many; however, for me it is a welcome relief. Forcing me to have to endure watching an endless stream of chat flowing through the game window or journal would be just about as painful as having to play UO with a television set sitting behind me that no one ever turns off.

Well, I really appreciate you taking the time to really really explain what it is that you don't like about the idea. I understand how you feel.

 

[Elaysia]

This depends very much on your personality type, Elaysia. Some of us have a very strong preference for doing things in small groups that consist mostly of trusted friends. We have enough opportunities elsewhere to interact with loud, noisy and often rude strangers.

Much like you I also have my small trusted circle of friends. The only problem is, they aren't in UO. I also understand completely where your fears are stemming from. I just don't know if UO's world chat would be as bad as WoW. I can't see it being that way, but I guess I am just biased. I feel like UO's community is much more mature.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Since Ultima Online's prime in 2003, the overall subscriber base has seen a steady decline. Subscriber numbers peaked at around 250,000 in July 2003, and to date sit around 135,000 subscribers (approximately 70,000 of whom are Japanese).[2] As of June 2006, Ultima Online held a 1.1% market share of the massively multiplayer online game subscriptions.[

and more currently check out this page for a nice graph http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html

Which means absolutely nothing in terms of proof since they have no way of obtaining accurate numbers. EA has never released the information to anyone. The closest we've come is the statement from the head honcho a year ago.

 

[Potgut]

It would be nice to know how a global chat system or mail system would work for those of us that haven't played other games with this feature, I mean, how would it be any different than the current chat system in UO? Why is it a big deal?

 

[Mitzlplik_SP]

Global chat would work similar to this. Say your farmin fertile dirt off earthies in Shame. All of a sudden ya see some text pop up on your bottom left .... " 3 peaple ready to do a Travesty,lookin for healers!" (or whatever,you get the point peaple LFG or peaple lookin for more in their group) You may want to postpone your dirt farming for a little Travesty. Thats just one example off the top of my head of how global chat could bring peaple together and further improve the community of UO.

One would be able to be in the know of things happening in Doom or Peerless or even blues needed for red killin....champ spawns.... its endless. I think global chat is one thing that could drastically improve UO. So many peaple would have the opportunity to hang out,group up or find things or peaple.

 

[Alezi]

1. Carrier pigeons carrying notes to players, would cost gold to sent and would take some time to deliver the note. Could also be used for item deliveries?

And if we really amp the idea up we could equip the pigeon's with eye lasers.

 

[FelixxBlack]

Global chat would work similar to this. Say your farmin fertile dirt off earthies in Shame. All of a sudden ya see some text pop up on your bottom left .... " 3 peaple ready to do a Travesty,lookin for healers!" (or whatever,you get the point peaple LFG or peaple lookin for more in their group) You may want to postpone your dirt farming for a little Travesty. Thats just one example off the top of my head of how global chat could bring peaple together and further improve the community of UO.

One would be able to be in the know of things happening in Doom or Peerless or even blues needed for red killin....champ spawns.... its endless. I think global chat is one thing that could drastically improve UO. So many peaple would have the opportunity to hang out,group up or find things or peaple.

Exactly! Now what could be wrong with that? It can only enhance the game and as long as they have filters for blocking you dont have to worry about spammers much. I think it would be worth it regardless.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Exactly! Now what could be wrong with that? It can only enhance the game and as long as they have filters for blocking you dont have to worry about spammers much. I think it would be worth it regardless.

I guess you've failed to realize that unlike WoW and other games, it's legal to sell UO items and gold for RL currency. WoW is able to keep the spamming to a minimum since they immediately ban any account caught spamming either mail or global chat. UO wouldn't have that luxury, and any mail or chat system would be inundated with spam so heavy that anything any player might post would get lost in the deluge.

 

[Elaysia]

1. Carrier pigeons carrying notes to players, would cost gold to sent and would take some time to deliver the note. Could also be used for item deliveries?

And if we really amp the idea up we could equip the pigeon's with eye lasers.

Good idea's, but I don't think these would fit in UO. Don't shoot the messenger here. =P

 

[Elaysia]

I guess you've failed to realize that unlike WoW and other games, it's legal to sell UO items and gold for RL currency. WoW is able to keep the spamming to a minimum since they immediately ban any account caught spamming either mail or global chat. UO wouldn't have that luxury, and any mail or chat system would be inundated with spam so heavy that anything any player might post would get lost in the deluge.

That's why we would need different channels for chat. You really think that there would be that much spammage for gold? I mean, I haven't experienced that in other games to this extent, yet I am to believe UO would be like insane compared to other games? I think the pro's outweigh the cons here.

 

[FelixxBlack]

I guess you've failed to realize that unlike WoW and other games, it's legal to sell UO items and gold for RL currency. WoW is able to keep the spamming to a minimum since they immediately ban any account caught spamming either mail or global chat. UO wouldn't have that luxury, and any mail or chat system would be inundated with spam so heavy that anything any player might post would get lost in the deluge.

Well your wrong there. I played wow for 3 years and they don't do anything at all to stop spamming lol. That is up to the individual to block the spammers. And uo isnt wow nor would I compare it to wow. And I think you over estimate how many sellers there are like that. Any that exist don't bother trying to spam in game. They all have websites and make tons of money with little to no effort there. If they wanted to spam they would be doing it right now.

 

[Elaysia]

It would be nice to know how a global chat system or mail system would work for those of us that haven't played other games with this feature, I mean, how would it be any different than the current chat system in UO? Why is it a big deal?

Hi PotGut,

Someone else answered the question and I will go into even more depth for those that aren't sure what we are talking about here.

A Global Chat System: allows players to send a message to everyone in the Shard. In UO it is much like the system chat. Within the chat box on the lower left side of UO's UI, you will notice tabs at the top of the box. If we had what they call General or World chat you would see it when you clicked the tab as an option. Selecting this option and then typing in the box would allow everyone on the shard to read what you have said. I will give two examples for each. Example 1 for trading. Click the trade tab and type in "Looking to buy Dread Mare 20 mil" Every single person on the shard that had the option on would be able to read this and reply to you. Billybob answers: "I have one for sale, meet me at the Glow Stables." Example 2 World Chat, This time select the world chat tab and type in "Looking for people to do Doom with, meet at Umbra Bank (or wherever)." I am going to throw another in for good measure, "Don't forget everyone, House of Pain Auction Tonight at 8pm, Gates available @ Brit Bank!!!"

These are good options in today's UO because Bank sitting isn't for everyone. This would allow communication of all players and not just guild members, to find and group up for adventures. Even if you just wanted someone to go treasure hunting with you. The options are limitless.

Note: You could also just type in /General command and then type your message or /Trade.

 

[Tina Small]

Hi PotGut,

Someone else answered the question and I will go into even more depth for those that aren't sure what we are talking about here.

A Global Chat System: allows players to send a message to everyone in the Shard. In UO it is much like the system chat. Within the chat box on the lower left side of UO's UI, you will notice tabs at the top of the box. If we had what they call General or World chat you would see it when you clicked the tab as an option. Selecting this option and then typing in the box would allow everyone on the shard to read what you have said. I will give two examples for each. Example 1 for trading. Click the trade tab and type in "Looking to buy Dread Mare 20 mil" Every single person on the shard that had the option on would be able to read this and reply to you. Billybob answers: "I have one for sale, meet me at the Glow Stables." Example 2 World Chat, This time select the world chat tab and type in "Looking for people to do Doom with, meet at Umbra Bank (or wherever)." I am going to throw another in for good measure, "Don't forget everyone, House of Pain Auction Tonight at 8pm, Gates available @ Brit Bank!!!"

These are good options in today's UO because Bank sitting isn't for everyone. This would allow communication of all players and not just guild members, to find and group up for adventures. Even if you just wanted someone to go treasure hunting with you. The options are limitless.

Note: You could also just type in /General command and then type your message or /Trade.

It sounds like you're describing the chat box in the Enhanced client. Does the text still appear in the game window? And where would all this "general" or "trade" text appear if you are using the legacy client? I'm assuming it would all show up in your game window and in your journal, in various colors depending on which channel was used to create the text.

 

[Elaysia]

It sounds like you're describing the chat box in the Enhanced client. Does the text still appear in the game window? And where would all this "general" or "trade" text appear if you are using the legacy client? I'm assuming it would all show up in your game window and in your journal, in various colors depending on which channel was used to create the text.

This is correct in Legacy, It would be much like this.

Added guild and alliance chat

* Use “\” for guild chat
* Use “|” (shift + “\”) for alliance chat
* Guild and alliance chat color and ignore toggles added to options gump


Except it would be \Trade and \World and yes in different colors. Or they could shorten it to \W and \T. I think yellow would be a good option for General chat and for Trade, perhaps purple, but you would see it in the left just like guild and party chat.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Well your wrong there. I played wow for 3 years and they don't do anything at all to stop spamming lol.

During the 11 months I played I saw multiple instances in which they DID do something about spamming gold sellers and power levelers. Maybe I just paid better attention....

That is up to the individual to block the spammers.

So I've got add yet another thing to my list of things to do daily? No thanks. I don't have to do anything about them now. I surely don't want any changes that would force me to have to constantly ignore char after char.

And uo isnt wow nor would I compare it to wow.

Yet you want to add WoW components to UO. Uh....yeah......right.....

And I think you over estimate how many sellers there are like that. Any that exist don't bother trying to spam in game. They all have websites and make tons of money with little to no effort there. If they wanted to spam they would be doing it right now.

If this was the case there wouldn't be books advertising their sites left all over Luna and every moongate in game. Do you not pay attention to anything when you're playing online games?


Sorry, but you're not going to change my mind, and I'll continue to naysay this every time it comes up.

 

[Connor_Graham]

That's why we would need different channels for chat. You really think that there would be that much spammage for gold? I mean, I haven't experienced that in other games to this extent, yet I am to believe UO would be like insane compared to other games? I think the pro's outweigh the cons here.

Other games do not allow RMT sales. UO does. That fact alone leaves the door wide open for people to spam non stop. They do it now with books left all over Sosaria. If they had an outlet like you're suggesting they'd throw you a party.

 

[FelixxBlack]

During the 11 months I played I saw multiple instances in which they DID do something about spamming gold sellers and power levelers. Maybe I just paid better attention....




So I've got add yet another thing to my list of things to do daily? No thanks. I don't have to do anything about them now. I surely don't want any changes that would force me to have to constantly ignore char after char.




Yet you want to add WoW components to UO. Uh....yeah......right.....





If this was the case there wouldn't be books advertising their sites left all over Luna and every moongate in game. Do you not pay attention to anything when you're playing online games?


Sorry, but you're not going to change my mind, and I'll continue to naysay this every time it comes up.

Lol yes Connor I am getting the feeling you will naysay until the day UO tanks because it became so antiquated that only Vets play it. And as you said they leave books on the ground sometimes well they have been doing that for years. I have been playing again now for 2 weeks and have yet to see a single book on the ground that wasnt advertising someones ingame vendor. They dont sit around spamming at banks though so I doubt that would be a problem now when uo is at its lowest ever lol. I am incredibly observant though I don;t seek out the negative as you do. And I am not adding wow components to anything. Wow didn't invent multiple channels in games lol. If you want to really argue about something then go yell at the devs because the new ui is incredibly wow like lol. They are already stealing stuff from other games to try and breath new life into ours. And all games do that. There hasnt been a completely original game in years. And like I said before if you can't add something constructive you really shouldn't be here. So how about in your next post you add an idea of what YOU think would help bring new people to UO. I won't respond to anymore of your negative posts. Its a waste of everyones time.

 

[Connor_Graham]

I have been playing again now for 2 weeks

When you've got a little more time under your belt, come back and see us. Until then, you don't have enough exposure to make an educated statement. What you say you never see I see almost daily.

 

[MalagAste]

NO.... Trouble with mailing things to people is ..... Not everyone has Unique names in UO..... somethign I LIKE
How many bobs, and Jennifers do you know IRL?

I don't want to be forced to having unique names.... that bring us..... BoB.... and JeNNifEr........ things I DO NOT want to see.

Nope.... However... Yes it would be nice to be able to do those things...
Chat is in game.... NO ONE uses it

As far as mailing things goes... if they just "fixed" housing they could give folk a "mailbox" that anyone could put things into...... a NO ONE but the owner/coowner could access....

I'd like to see way more options to housing.... That's just one

 

[Elaysia]

NO.... Trouble with mailing things to people is ..... Not everyone has Unique names in UO..... somethign I LIKE
How many bobs, and Jennifers do you know IRL?

I don't want to be forced to having unique names.... that bring us..... BoB.... and JeNNifEr........ things I DO NOT want to see.

Nope.... However... Yes it would be nice to be able to do those things...
Chat is in game.... NO ONE uses it

As far as mailing things goes... if they just "fixed" housing they could give folk a "mailbox" that anyone could put things into...... a NO ONE but the owner/coowner could access....

I'd like to see way more options to housing.... That's just one

I agree with a different approach for the mailing system. In essence any mailing system would be nice, be it a mailbox a post office...doesn't matter to me.

There is chat in-game, but this isn't exactly what I am talking about. It's not very practical and there are tons of people that don't even know it exists. Why would you be opposed to having a world chat? Also, as far as the world chat goes, as someone else brought up. Each character has a unique number or something. How else would thy know which Billybob to ban? So, there is definitely a system in place. I believe it is a number attached to the end of one's name. So I know it is possible.

 

[Elaysia]

When you've got a little more time under your belt, come back and see us. Until then, you don't have enough exposure to make an educated statement. What you say you never see I see almost daily.

Perhaps it is because you guys are on different shards?

 

[Elaysia]

When you've got a little more time under your belt, come back and see us. Until then, you don't have enough exposure to make an educated statement. What you say you never see I see almost daily.

And.. actually, I haven't seen any either on Lake Superior as of yet. There must be more reasons than gold selling that make you say absolutely no to these ideas. I see it says you are on Pacific, that shard must get like major flooding of gold sellers at banks and books tossed out like every hour?

Anyone else from Pacific?

 

[FelixxBlack]

NO.... Trouble with mailing things to people is ..... Not everyone has Unique names in UO..... somethign I LIKE
How many bobs, and Jennifers do you know IRL?

I don't want to be forced to having unique names.... that bring us..... BoB.... and JeNNifEr........ things I DO NOT want to see.

Nope.... However... Yes it would be nice to be able to do those things...
Chat is in game.... NO ONE uses it

As far as mailing things goes... if they just "fixed" housing they could give folk a "mailbox" that anyone could put things into...... a NO ONE but the owner/coowner could access....

I'd like to see way more options to housing.... That's just one

If you read up a little higher it looks like though the names aren't unique, each name does have a unique number attached to it. A system could be set up around that. They might need to even make something like a friends list where you could only mail things to your friends because thats the only way you would know their number. That would also eliminate spammers.

 

[Masuri]

You don't get any traction with these kind of requests because too many WoW haters think it might somehow take away from the coolness they have for playing a 12 year old game that doesn't have such frivolous things in it.

Basically this, on top of the people who don't want something and therefore don't want anyone else to have it either. Extra silly since WoW wasn't the first major MMO with a mail system or global channels, but why let facts stop the WoW-trashing?

Suggestions to use IRC and ICQ miss the point - those are generally used for communicating with people you already know. What is proposed is a server-wide chat for help, trade, finding groups, finding crafters - talking to people on your server you might not already know. Of course, since we already have such channels, all that is needed is to convince the isolationists and luddites in UO to actually use them to benefit themselves and their shards.

A mail system would be nice, but I'm not sure how necessary it is - it's a lot more useful (and needed) in a game that lacks things like personal and guild homes, or storage outside of a bank. UO's got that stuff covered. To be perfectly honest, I would rather see the resources that would be required to make a mail system work, devoted to more globally-useful systems, like vendor search.

 

[Kiminality]

I would definitely have them turned off, and I suspect the majority of other players would as well. If that were the case, then would it still be worthwhile to have either system in the game, if they aren't being used by all?

Something to consider is that, currently, people do without such features because they're only available in a depreciated form, which doesn't mean they wouldn't make use of them.

People already use alternatives to global chats - forums and Vent/IRC already substitute for it, although are less accessible and convenient.
There are downsides to a global chat, lots of downside. But there are also upsides.

Ingame mail is a good one.
In other MMOs I've played, I've found the ingame mail invaluable (speaking as someone with limited patience for the global/region chat waffle). Not only is it integral to things like the auctions (which are a good thing), but it also allows for non-face-to-face trading (mailing items with a "cash on delivery").

The addition of such systems would do nothing to harm the game, and quite likely bring some benefit.

 

[StifledArgument]

Ok, not signing this.

First off, /signed reminds me of WoW, I am not playing WoW anymore so not playing the forum BS of /signed.

Even WoW didn't have world chat, there was regional chat,Local Defense,Trade and LFG as default channels. If we were to have the level of inane, rude, childish yapping that WoW had I would stab my eyes out with a spork. There is chat currently, I have gone to see if anyone is out there and no on ever is, so I don't sweat it.

And mail, I don't care, if people feel the need for this in a game where you can put things on the ground and have them stay so you can pick them up with other characters, so be it. WoW had to have mail because you couldn't place anything on the ground. And later on,without purchasing a guild and guild bank, you had no way of getting stuff to your other characters. You couldn't even put them on the AH because you couldn't bid on your own items from the same account.

So, a. World Chat, exists if people used it, and b. Mail...whatever.

Yes, I am kind of in a bad mood today, but if I wanted WoW, I would go back to it. I loved my friends there, and even my toons, but I don't want anything that reminds me of the game that never does anything new and only puts new skins and glow effects on it.