cloaks of corruption, what have we found out about them?

[Guest]

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Nice. Only char I would want to wear the robe on is my chiv archer for mana help. Oh Wait, Nevermind, I can't due to it being karma loss. =/
Adds another useless chest of items to the "collects dust" pile while dupers/exploiters keep their Acid Proof Robes...

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Current abilities of the Cloak of Corruption:
* Boosts Fame obtained from aggro’d mobs
Rapidly decays Karma
* -500 karma every 30 seconds equipped

As long are you are pretty consistantly fighting, I don't think that will be an issue.

 

[dorkuberalles]

now it seems to work as stated, which is very effective in the rift for both mages and fighters. and the fame gains are very, very odd. in some instances i was getting spammed with fame gains, and shot to dread lord from outcast in like 15 minutes.

 

[imported_GalenKnighthawke]

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Its gonna be a turn in item like everything else from events.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, no, this one’s a keeper. It won’t be in the coming turnin.

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Oh dear....

*sighs*

Oh well. Any preview on what WILL be on the turn-in?

-Galen's player

 

[Guest]

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????? can you help me with this word? What are you trying to tell us?

Aggro

Basically short for Aggression, or in online gaming terminology, when a creature begins to make the "I'm going to kill you" beeline to fight your character.

If a creature is actively targeting your character in fighting, that means it has "aggroed" you

 

[imported_GalenKnighthawke]

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Its gonna be a turn in item like everything else from events.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, no, this one’s a keeper. It won’t be in the coming turnin.

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Oh dear....

*sighs*

Oh well. Any preview on what WILL be on the turn-in?

-Galen's player

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Actually, given how few Cloaks I have relative to others, I should actually be HAPPY that they're not part of the turn-in.

Thank you Drac.
lol

Not sure what I was thinking before!

-Galen's player

 

[imported_GalenKnighthawke]

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To sum: A dread's best friend, or a hero's shield in the unknown.

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Anyone know what Drac meant by this sentence? Anything beyond the literal "The Cloak is great for a Dread because it keeps him evil, and a hero can use it in the rift and enjoy its advantages if he's willing to bear the cost?"

-Galen's player

 

[imported_GalenKnighthawke]

Before I forget, thanks for posting this.

-Galen's player

 

[AshOfCaine]

I agree with Nusair. -500 karma every 30 seconds, hmm big deal. Let's see, Stratics lists Ogres as having 3000 karma, so 1 ogre every 3 minutes you are wearing the cloak and problem solved. But since only reason to wear one is in the rift, just kill wisps anything as everything there has a lot more fame than an ogre.

Or do what i did and leave it on and become a dread lord bank sitter..

 

[Guest]

- For some reason I'm making a connection between 'the rift' and 'the Stygian Abyss'.

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

The original turn in post always said that things with "decorative purpose" will be part of turn in. In world of Ultima online, decorative items are usually ones that can be locked down at your house but cannot be worn. So, I am not sure why people thought they would be part of the turn in. Same with cursed artifacts, I highly doubt they will be part of turn in but that does not stop people from assuming they will be.

 

[Guest]

Same with planeswords/planeshields? Same with staves of pyros and vorpal blades?

I think its a gamble to assume anything could be a turn-in. For me, I had so many cloaks because of the very large supply of small blackrock pieces I managed to get every morning for about a week. I figured that I wouldn't hand it in at new haven because it may have a better use later.

Now we can use it to kill shadowlords, I immediately thought that I would use it all up - well - a large amount of it. Since another friend who isn't currently playing has some too, I decided to get some for him too and he could give me his blackrock later. Then again, most people don't have the amounts of blackrock that I do.. so I guess a hand-in favouring people with lots of blackrock could be biased.

However, then that might make the hand-in of blackrock equally biased. So I reckon its just going to be one of those items that is just very useful at different events in future, but never necessary. Example here - you can kill shadowlords normally - but people with blackrock can cut through them far quicker.

 

[Guest]

Yep, the Cloak of Corruption is pretty good if you're in the Rift. I put it on my Necro/Swordsman who was already a Dread Lord and killed a bunch of stuff in the Rift, including 5 SLs.
Rarely ran out of Mana, even when casting Corpse Skin, Strangle, Curse Weapon and using Weapon Specials pretty often. Rarely ever ran low on Stam, and even when i did, since i was in Vampire Form with Ring of the Vile and Cloak of Corruption on and GM Focus, my Stam would skyrocket.
Every now and then i'd get my screen spammed up with "You gain a good amount of fame."

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

It said more than that, but thanks for playing.
YOU WIN NOTHING, GO HOME

 

[Guest]

Did anyone else notice that Draconi said "Current" abilities?

Maybe the Cloak will become even more useful as the Event unfolds...

It's already been very helpful for me in the Rift...my mana almost never runs out...very useful, even for my lowly-skilled character for healing and curing the fighters.

 

[Guest]

Yep! I thought perhaps that meant what they are now, as opposed to what they have been - to clear up confusion over any changes that may have occured.

But its entirely possible their use may change.

For example, after the rift is closed - if it is any time soon - and cloaks become no longer obtainable, they may then be altered or something and players will all rush to buy them.

Tell you what though - they may have an interesting effect on the physical form of Shadowlords. Who knows - extra damage to them. Extra damage to YOU. Immunity perhaps. Ability to command other monsters. Who knows. I think the intention was not for people to acquire loads of them, but I still hold out for them becoming highly desireable by other people!

 

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????? can you help me with this word? What are you trying to tell us?

Aggro

Basically short for Aggression, or in online gaming terminology, when a creature begins to make the "I'm going to kill you" beeline to fight your character.

If a creature is actively targeting your character in fighting, that means it has "aggroed" you

[/ QUOTE ]Thanks for clearing that up for me. Wearing it in the rift may be a bad thing if you hit a HUGE spawn of wisp then.

I can just see me now, tearing down Moonglow way, with 30 of them wisp on my butt. Since I really don't have anyone that can wear it, unless they are in an Ethereal Void, and was only fighting the Shadowlords for the robes, and there will be no turn in with them, then I am done for now, you can close the bubble any time Capt Avery.

I had hoped that the april fools day posting about the robe and threads would have been confirmed as true and they allow us to change the robe in some way for normal wearing in our realm. Maybe in the future we can look forward to some quest that allows us to change the robe.

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

I just stopped bothering to kill SL's after my 2nd cloak. Now I am just waiting to find out what the hell is the turn in reward going to be. Everything is bit paused for my merchant play style due to the impending but mysterious turn in. I wish they would announce the details already *sigh*

However, I did not think the plane items would be part of turn in either. I figured only the threads would be a turn in based on the announcement. I guess we will find out eventually! Till then speculation rules the day *annoying*. The brave shall profit (or burn). I will just play it safe and hope they announce the details any day now :&gt;

 

[Prudentis]

Excuse me, but are you seriously complaining about your false assumptions?
You assumed something and now it turns out to be wrong (maybe).

While I see, that we might be somewhat annoyed that, the information is vague, but isn't that what many players wanted?

But complaining about your false predictions is kind of strange.
It's like "I made a mistake, now I blame you"

Personally I would like to have some vague but still reliable information about the event. Something like:
"You will be able to turn in items form the middle tier mobs"
"the hardest to obtain items will be valuable but don't bother hoarding them since you won't need many"
You could still farm them and then sell them or just give them to those not lucky/mighty enough to acquire them theirselves.
But hoarding them only for the purpose of making millions based upon an assumption ... well, thats what you get then

 

[imported_GalenKnighthawke]

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The original turn in post always said that things with "decorative purpose" will be part of turn in. In world of Ultima online, decorative items are usually ones that can be locked down at your house but cannot be worn. So, I am not sure why people thought they would be part of the turn in. Same with cursed artifacts, I highly doubt they will be part of turn in but that does not stop people from assuming they will be.

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This is all true.

For my part, my "excuse" for thinking they'd be part of the turn-in is thus.

-The Planeswords/Shields also, technically, are non-deco in that they can be used, but they are so common, and so useless in a fight, that I couldn't conceive of them having any purpose other than a turn-in. And if they WERE going to be part of a turn-in even though they are not strictly deco, then why not the Cloaks too?

-The negatives of the Cloaks seemed HIGHLY significant. (After they changed that mana regen, but stamina/health drain thing.) Until now, I was unaware of the positive effects of the Cloaks inside the rift. So, something that's basically only negative can have no purpose other than "deco," right, which made them eligible for the turn-in.

Now, though, that I know the Cloaks have a function within the rift (and note that Drac said within the Ethereal Void, which we know from Ultima fiction is a Hell of a lot bigger than just this rift), I think I see what's going on.

Remember how we were supposed to be prepared to choose loyalties?

Significant buffs, vs. Karma drain.

Sounds like a choice to me........

-Galen's player

 

[Guest]

Ah, good point, Trev. I wasn't even thinking about what the Cloaks abilities' were before, and using 'current' to clear things up a bit. I only have a few Cloaks myself, 3 or 4 I think, but for those that have many I am hoping that there are changes in the future to the functionality of the cloaks that make them useful for everyone. After all, to acquire that many, you would have been very active in the Event, and should be rewarded fully for defending Moonglow.

I guess I'm just trying to find some upsides for those that are let-down by these Cloaks not being part of the turn-in. Hopefully we will see the Cloaks become even more useful and desired in the future!

 

[Dank]

Good morning all,
I too am able to get cloaks without any black rock... as I have none. I now have three cloaks though one was given to me for ressing a fellow while I was being attacked he was so gratefull that he gave me a cloak as a token of appreciation. I in turn dropped four paragon chests for the people giving out food, aids and repair deeds to participants on atlantic shard A "pay it forward thing" . Any ways i digress, dont get too down on the cloaks not being a turn in item.. I have a feeling that they will become more valuable than we might think. I know this because I only have three where as I have about 100 swords shields and 50 or so of each thread... Murphy wont let me slide on this.
*Shout out to red headed step sisters*

 

[Frarc]

I like the cloaks for my Necromancer scribes. They don't care the karma drops. But they like all the nice mana when making scrolls.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"I guess I'm just trying to find some upsides for those that are let-down by these Cloaks not being part of the turn-in."

Seems to be more than a few let down by the announcement that the cloaks are basically worthless. For the first time since the event started, Dark Moonglow on Pacific is empty except for the usual stealthers. Looks like everyone just said screw it.

 

[Guest]

TBH I wouldnt mind so much if it wasn't that i'd rather have the blackrock than the cloaks! I only got so many because I reckoned that they would be worth more than the blackrock I used and then, later, I could trade them for more blackrock each (rather than sell them) or just hand them in.

 

[Guest]

hehehe. It is funny. Last night, a stratics member was telling a vender owner in Luna, who does not even know what stratics is, or care, about Drac's post on the Cloaks. The vender guy was calling the stratics guy a liar, scammer, and that he justed wanted the cloak for a lot less, because he was a wussy, and could not get his own.

Just a reminder of the difference between those who read the board, and those who don't.

 

[Connor_Graham]

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TBH I wouldnt mind so much if it wasn't that i'd rather have the blackrock than the cloaks! I only got so many because I reckoned that they would be worth more than the blackrock I used and then, later, I could trade them for more blackrock each (rather than sell them) or just hand them in.

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I wouldn't mind so much if they were actually useful. As it is, who in their right mind would want to wear one inside the rift and aggro everything within 30 tiles? It's bad enough now we've got warriors aggro'd from 4 screens away without having them come from every corner of the place.

 

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As it is, who in their right mind would want to wear one inside the rift and aggro everything within 30 tiles? It's bad enough now we've got warriors aggro'd from 4 screens away without having them come from every corner of the place.

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I did, found it highly useful. I also was VERY pleased to find that those threads of fate seem to act like bungy cords holding the rampant mobs of wisps fairly firmly in place. LOL

 

[Guest]

Can you give us more info. What did you find so useful? What character type are you using? Was the health regen so fast that you weren't in danger even with several mobs on you?

 

[imported_Lord GOD(GOD)]

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I used the cloak in the rift on a macer/paladin. The hp is enough to not need to heal vs 1 wisp thats about it, it seems to be a certain amount of regen then a burst of 5-10 hp on top (in all 3 stats). You couldn't rely on it. The stamina was quite good and the mana was too, though the mana was combined with having 40 lmc 10 mr and 110 med on the character. Enough to use specials every swing.

The karma didn't look like it was dropping at first but eventually did as I found out when I suddenly failed a remove curse.

 

[Guest]

My Necro/Swordsman didn't face much of a problem with mobs of Wisps when i wore the Cloak of Corruption in the Rift. Even if they did mob me, between my Vamp Form, Curse Weapon, Whirlwinds with Overseer Sundered Blade, and Withers, they wouldn't last long while i would regain health every Wisp i hit with Whirlwind.

 

[Guest]

Ok, fair enough.

Temp is a elf; standard gm peace bard with 120 weaving and 110 mage, med, eval.

There was some noticeable improvement in hp regen above the little bit offered by Crim cinct.

Obviously the template is mana critical and that was where I enjoyed the most benefit. I do have the area peace option as a failsafe against luring hordes of Mob as I run around locating and bringing to a small group near the gate for proper dispatch. But for the most part I did not experience becoming the aggro magnet among the group of people working the rift. The spawn seemed to maintain focus on who was doing damage as far as holding aggro was concerned.

I did fail miserably to keep up with karma loss, so if you are really intent on showing only positive karma this is not the item for you. I cant speak to the stamina portion with this template at all, but will happily try again with a bushido swordsman tonight and post results tomorrow.

I'll try and think if there was anything else additionally.

Oh, I did notice and have read folks on this board claiming to be spammed gaining good amount of fame. I noticed this occur when a zerker that was being worked very slowly would wander off and kill shadow wisps, I dont remember seeing it engaged with anything else, and they do not have area attacks. So I can only assume that the eight to ten "you have gained a good amount of fame" system messages came from some accumulation either in the cloak attaining fame from the shadowed wisps, or drawing fame from the kills of the berserker after we had engaged it for more than half its health.

I did not see any similar message when I would kill shadow wisps either myself with direct spells or with summons. So the exact workings that lead to the result, I must admit, stump me.

 

[Guest]

Mine smells like pot roast.

 

[Guest]

Yes, fortunately the dark color also is either highly resistant to gravy stains, or else it just does a great job of hiding them!

 

[five oclock]

Ill take a few off your hands

say about 1K gold per robe

maybe these robes will be for use in the future...the long future

 

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maybe these robes will be for use in the future...the long future

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I'm still waiting on something useful to do with my candle. Ive got pl
enty of storage space for my meager ten cloaks, thanks for offering though.

 

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Can you give us more info. What did you find so useful? What character type are you using? Was the health regen so fast that you weren't in danger even with several mobs on you?

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I promised to deliver a brief from a dexxer perspective. Here goes.

On a human elder macer with gm pally, 115 parry and 105 bushido(work in progress) gm tact no: anat, healing, focus, resist, or med and just enough necro to reliably cast curse weap, and not enough SS to take into acct.

Both stam and mana regen were surprisingly good, better than a point per second. (not sure what that would make the listed rate) and health of about half that. Did notice the fame gain, no karma at odd intervals. So still nothing concrete about this feature.

Much better performance than I have allowed about previously in these forums. Died some yes, mostly to fallens. Sadly I dont have a firm enough grip on this template yet to deliver a report of full potential. But I will say with certainty that reports of uselessness are just flat wrong regarding this event item, at least in terms of the event itself.

I cant help but contemplate the possible usefulness of the thread event items in conjunction with this one moving forward. *shrugs*

 

[Guest]

I know it was posted in another forum... but it could be possible that the cloaks could still be used as a quest item and not a turn in. I'm not taking credit for this, but I didn't notice it in this thread so here was the idea.

You hand in a thread of fate/life and the cloak and get a different cloak back. I think with how popular chiv is and the fact that this cloak drops your karma at a significant rate, they would at least give people with builds that require karma something of similar value.

Who knows though... They could just say get lost to all of their chiv using subscribers.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"But I will say with certainty that reports of uselessness are just flat wrong regarding this event item, at least in terms of the event itself."

The massive drop in karma along with the aggro'ing everything within 30 tiles is what makes it worthless. Also, as soon as this part of the event is over with, what little benefits there are will no longer be usable unless another event is created in the "ethereal void".

 

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The massive drop in karma along with the aggro'ing everything within 30 tiles is what makes it worthless. Also, as soon as this part of the event is over with, what little benefits there are will no longer be usable unless another event is created in the "ethereal void".

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QFT

And you are completely correct, the above make this a niche tool. But just supposing it is either alterable in some way we can not forsee, or, and I'm just thinking about the course of previous invasions here, the void grows?

I mean as far as baddies in Ultima lore goes these guys are seriously heavy hitters.

Also, I myself have not experienced the phenomena of luring aggressive mob from every corner of my screen with the cloak on, more so than I do at any other time in the void.

 

[imported_Telerandil]

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I did notice and have read folks on this board claiming to be spammed gaining good amount of fame.

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I did some testing tonight, and found that as soon as these messages appear, the mass aggro is triggered. So, as soon as I saw "You have earned a good amount of fame." pop up more than once in a row, I ran for the gate.

Still curious as to the connection here. I went through a couple fame levels (due to a *cough* few silly deaths) and always seemed to get a "good amount" of fame. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

My speculation? It's compensation for being brave and/or crazy enough to wear a target on your back. This cloak regenerates hit points, mana, stamina, and fame!

 

[DrMcguilicudy]

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What am I supposed to do with these (literally) 100 cloaks!
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Try selling em at 250k a pop b4 the market gets really saturated!!

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Who cares. Nothing like being a sowpigger.

 

[imported_GalenKnighthawke]

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I did notice and have read folks on this board claiming to be spammed gaining good amount of fame.

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I did some testing tonight, and found that as soon as these messages appear, the mass aggro is triggered. So, as soon as I saw "You have earned a good amount of fame." pop up more than once in a row, I ran for the gate.

Still curious as to the connection here. I went through a couple fame levels (due to a *cough* few silly deaths) and always seemed to get a "good amount" of fame. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

My speculation? It's compensation for being brave and/or crazy enough to wear a target on your back. This cloak regenerates hit points, mana, stamina, and fame!

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To me it sounds like they are pushing you toward Dread Lord by wearing the cloak.

An important distinction....Not Outcast, but Dread Lord.

Not only are you super-evil, but everyone knows you are super-evil.

Makes sense really.

-Galen's player

 

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What am I supposed to do with these (literally) 100 cloaks!
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Try selling em at 250k a pop b4 the market gets really saturated!!

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Who cares. Nothing like being a sowpigger.

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Ill buy cloaks for 200k.

 

[Connor_Graham]

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What am I supposed to do with these (literally) 100 cloaks!
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Who cares. Nothing like being a sowpigger.

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Ill buy cloaks for 200k.

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Heh, I'm selling them for 350k.........but they're not moving very quickly.....