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Lord Farquhar
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Hi, I see above there are stickied posts regarding classic shard information. Is one in development?
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classic shard information
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Tazar
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See sticky post above for all the info we have on it... anything else is pure speculation at this point.
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Beastmaster
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Another "one post wonder".
Mods why don't you just lock/move/delete, do something with these posts?
Mods why don't you just lock/move/delete, do something with these posts?
Everyone started at one post at some point or another. Do you want us to lock/move/delete all posts from someone who is a new member? That really says something for our ability to grow a site eh? 
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Sergul'zan_SP
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yes, they do as long as it's on a topic they aren't interested in.Everyone started at one post at some point or another. Do you want us to lock/move/delete all posts from someone who is a new member? That really says something for our ability to grow a site eh?
@OP - They're currently considering the possibility of implementing a classic shard..the last word we got on the issue was that there'd be an answer one way or the other around the end of the year.
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Beastmaster
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Whatever Shamus. You've been here long enough to know what this is. Play dumb as long as it furthers your own ideals I guess.Everyone started at one post at some point or another. Do you want us to lock/move/delete all posts from someone who is a new member? That really says something for our ability to grow a site eh?
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Kiminality
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I'm pretty sure it's called "benefit of the doubt".
You know, mods don't generally get to fly off on their hunches without any accountability. If Shamus were to remove the thread, and the question of "why?" came up, then he'd have to explain that it seemed shady, or however you wanted to define it.
It's possible that it's a genuine new poster that's looking for information, and so in the interests of building community, you have to weigh the pros and cons.
Keeping the thread doesn't detract from the community, while being a jerk about it being kept does.
I agree with the Mods. A new mind to our little club is very much welcome and why not let them ask the question? It dont hurt to say yes dear they are contemplating one but we have discussed this many times here ... read these. Geesh give the new person a break.
Lord Farquhar
Sugar yes there is talk of a classic shard but as of yet its all on the Dev side as for information. We can talk a storm in here about it and have many times as to the pro's and con's of one.
Welcome to the forums kiddo.
Dont worry they dont bite(points to the gallery of posters) they just are awaiting alot of promises and are missing hteir morning coffee.
Lord Farquhar
Sugar yes there is talk of a classic shard but as of yet its all on the Dev side as for information. We can talk a storm in here about it and have many times as to the pro's and con's of one.
Welcome to the forums kiddo.
Dont worry they dont bite(points to the gallery of posters) they just are awaiting alot of promises and are missing hteir morning coffee.
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Tazar
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Considering the site-crash of '08 and the many veterans that have not logged in since then - anyone returning will also start with a Postcount of 1 - until they contact us to have their old account merged.
We welcome new players and returning veterans.
We welcome new players and returning veterans.
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Beleg Megil
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Yeah well in my opinion it is probably another puppet account, and the thread needs to be merged with one of the other dead horse threads.
/54horsesalute
/54horsesalute
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Babble
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Hey, I am a one post wonder too!
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Babble
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maybe though two?
There has been a lot of discussion in two threads recently. Thread one named "Classic Shard" got locked because it had something like 2500+ posts and was loading very slowly. "Classic Shard #2" got started to continue the discussion and has 800+ posts.
Go to the Search Option near the top of the page, click it, then the Advanced Search Option. Give it the keywords "Classic Shard" (w/o the quotes) and a few inches down tell it 800+ posts as a second requirement. You'll get a list of 20 some threads includeing the two long discussion ones.
A lot of reading but it's pretty flame free serious discussion.
Oh yes they do, and I've got the past warnings to prove it....oops...errrr....I mean......nothing to see here...move along folks.
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Farquhar
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I'm unsure what you mean. I was a long time player of this game who stopped playing quite some time ago, every year or so I visit this website looking for information on a classic server as it is something that interests me. I saw some stickied information on the top and inquired.
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Farquhar
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I am not a new member, I have been a member of this forum since before the uo.com boards were shut down. I guess I haven't logged in for such a long time that my name was imported_Farquhar and I couldn't post, so I made a new account.Everyone started at one post at some point or another. Do you want us to lock/move/delete all posts from someone who is a new member? That really says something for our ability to grow a site eh?
And with that information, I can wave my magic wand and 'hey presto' you are no longer a one post wonder
(user names merged)
hmm, well that would have worked, but there were no posts under that name either
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Farquhar
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Something funny happened to my account some years ago. I had to remake it. I have a long and sorted posting history though. I was even a poster at the britannia crossroads forums before uo.com made their own forums. Anyways, my post count isn't really important to me. (I think it might have had soemthing to do with some arguing I did about uo:r game changes and had my account disabled..please don't disable it for me saying that hehe)
I was just looking for information on the classic shard, the fact that devs are even considering it is a pretty big jump. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be back in this game if it happens
I was just looking for information on the classic shard, the fact that devs are even considering it is a pretty big jump. Who knows, maybe one day I'll be back in this game if it happens
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BuzZzZ
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I know you devs can see this so...
Give us a classic shard!!!!
You spend your time reading silly threads every other day so can atleast give us a yes or a no!
To get onto an actual topic I am actualy impressed with how much the producers do spend on the stratics forums, it's not really known (as far as I am aware) for devs to be so active and listen to the gaming community so kudos for that but ffs give us a classic shard or put us out our misery.
@The rest of stratics. I don't give a toss your going to flame me.
edit* Meant to say devs in the title. I spend most of my time arguing with mods in another mmo that it's relex to rant at them.
Give us a classic shard!!!!
You spend your time reading silly threads every other day so can atleast give us a yes or a no!
To get onto an actual topic I am actualy impressed with how much the producers do spend on the stratics forums, it's not really known (as far as I am aware) for devs to be so active and listen to the gaming community so kudos for that but ffs give us a classic shard or put us out our misery.
@The rest of stratics. I don't give a toss your going to flame me.
edit* Meant to say devs in the title. I spend most of my time arguing with mods in another mmo that it's relex to rant at them.
Re: I know you mods can see this so...
The word going around is that we will get a decision near the end of the year.
Hopefully they do it right and give us a pre-AoS Tram shard as well. I'd enjoy playing UO again instead of this imitation of that Blizzard game.
The word going around is that we will get a decision near the end of the year.
Hopefully they do it right and give us a pre-AoS Tram shard as well. I'd enjoy playing UO again instead of this imitation of that Blizzard game.
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BuzZzZ
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Re: I know you devs can see this so...
Done, thanks. As said I play another mmo and am at war with the mods on there so it's instinct.
The devs speak often in this forum but seem to avoid a simple question. The comment about "thinking" of a classic shard was said a while back, would it be that hard just to keep dangling that carrot and say "we are still thinking about it" or even give a bit more info. Even if it's a "not at this time" will do. I stopped playing UO but read stratics quite often now due to the buzz of the classic shard.
Done, thanks. As said I play another mmo and am at war with the mods on there so it's instinct.
The devs speak often in this forum but seem to avoid a simple question. The comment about "thinking" of a classic shard was said a while back, would it be that hard just to keep dangling that carrot and say "we are still thinking about it" or even give a bit more info. Even if it's a "not at this time" will do. I stopped playing UO but read stratics quite often now due to the buzz of the classic shard.
Re: I know you devs can see this so...
They clearly stated that they wouldn't be making any decisions until the end of the year.
They clearly stated that they wouldn't be making any decisions until the end of the year.
Re: I know you devs can see this so...
Considering they can't even get someone to keep the website up to date, They aren't likely to get Devs just for a classic shard meaning if they do make one, It's likely we'll loose out on Dev time.
Re: I know you devs can see this so...
The Jig's Up.
The Dev's arent stupid. A handful of you tried to astroturf and con the devs into thinking there was a massive demand, and the fact that the Classic #2 has been dead for weeks, proves the jig's up.
The most amusing bits have been one of your top 3 spammers saying game developers are not 'legitmate developers', and another of your top 3 spammers who made a living off UO, posting if EA bans cheaters then UO will die. Stick a fork in it baby, its done. LMAO.
The Jig's Up.
The Dev's arent stupid. A handful of you tried to astroturf and con the devs into thinking there was a massive demand, and the fact that the Classic #2 has been dead for weeks, proves the jig's up.
The most amusing bits have been one of your top 3 spammers saying game developers are not 'legitmate developers', and another of your top 3 spammers who made a living off UO, posting if EA bans cheaters then UO will die. Stick a fork in it baby, its done. LMAO.
Re: I know you mods can see this so...
There's an App? So many posters are Mods now, I thought they were just handing them out. rolleyes:I'm glad you changed 'mods' to 'devs' I was confused I misread the application form on what I'm to do.
Re: I know you devs can see this so...
Ya know what, as much as I loved the "old days" of UO ( I started in Early 98'), It cannot be reproduced. The Classic shard threads prove that, No one wants to straight-up go back, everyone wants Some of the new stuff and some of the old stuff.
Even if the devs did make a Classic shard, the Second it went live the threads would also start, with pancakes and Moaning about this or that and how something is now out of balance and on and on and on......
If the Devs decided they wanted to try and please everyone, the ONLY way I see it working is if the Devs put the rulset together and then got every account subscribed to UO to effectivly "vote" on it. That way, the day after it went live the Dev team could fall back on the numbers and say, "This is what the Masses wanted and agreed upon"
But as another astute poster pointed out, How many versions of this game and clients can the Dev team Support? How many people play Seige.........
Ya know what, as much as I loved the "old days" of UO ( I started in Early 98'), It cannot be reproduced. The Classic shard threads prove that, No one wants to straight-up go back, everyone wants Some of the new stuff and some of the old stuff.
Even if the devs did make a Classic shard, the Second it went live the threads would also start, with pancakes and Moaning about this or that and how something is now out of balance and on and on and on......
If the Devs decided they wanted to try and please everyone, the ONLY way I see it working is if the Devs put the rulset together and then got every account subscribed to UO to effectivly "vote" on it. That way, the day after it went live the Dev team could fall back on the numbers and say, "This is what the Masses wanted and agreed upon"
But as another astute poster pointed out, How many versions of this game and clients can the Dev team Support? How many people play Seige.........
Re: I know you devs can see this so...
Except changing the locations of the recent official events, very little has been done as extra work for Siege.
Not sure where you get your information from, but Siege has had little love from the Dev's for ages.
Except changing the locations of the recent official events, very little has been done as extra work for Siege.
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Aragon100
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Re: I know you devs can see this so...
That classic shard would get more then enough income especially since it wont be much development on it, thats the idea of a classic shard, it is frozen in time.
Subscription income from the ones that subscribe to a classic shard should of course go to that classic shard.
That classic shard would get more then enough income especially since it wont be much development on it, thats the idea of a classic shard, it is frozen in time.
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BuzZzZ
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It's true, if UO was so good then why do most of the stratics community spend more time on the forums than the actual game?
The issue is taking away dev time from 'normal UO' isn't it? Not that it won't be a success, the reason people here are so against it is because they are scared it will be a success and will take away too much dev time.
No I have seen the devs post a fair bit today about other issues which I think is great that they do listen to some issues but would it be that hard to get a dev to give an answer.. a "yes", "no" or a "will be decided in a few months"? They have probably read this thread, it takes 2 seconds to answer. I can promise you that whatever answer is given, it will be spread across the Mortal Online, Darkfall, classic shard and many other message boards within an instant.
The issue is taking away dev time from 'normal UO' isn't it? Not that it won't be a success, the reason people here are so against it is because they are scared it will be a success and will take away too much dev time.
No I have seen the devs post a fair bit today about other issues which I think is great that they do listen to some issues but would it be that hard to get a dev to give an answer.. a "yes", "no" or a "will be decided in a few months"? They have probably read this thread, it takes 2 seconds to answer. I can promise you that whatever answer is given, it will be spread across the Mortal Online, Darkfall, classic shard and many other message boards within an instant.
<Seriously amused>
You know this thread could have drifted off into history already if you anti Classic Shard folks would just stop keeping it refreshed by posting to it.
It could have just been 3 whole posts. The OP asking about The Classic Shard, Post #2 Answering the question, and post #3 consisting of a thank you from the OP.
And you pancake about the Classic Shard fans posting to much... rolleyes:
You know this thread could have drifted off into history already if you anti Classic Shard folks would just stop keeping it refreshed by posting to it.
It could have just been 3 whole posts. The OP asking about The Classic Shard, Post #2 Answering the question, and post #3 consisting of a thank you from the OP.
And you pancake about the Classic Shard fans posting to much... rolleyes:
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Sergul'zan_SP
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Isn't it great? Especially the people who post the dead horse pics...<Seriously amused>
You know this thread could have drifted off into history already if you anti Classic Shard folks would just stop keeping it refreshed by posting to it.
It could have just been 3 whole posts. The OP asking about The Classic Shard, Post #2 Answering the question, and post #3 consisting of a thank you from the OP.
And you pancake about the Classic Shard fans posting to much... rolleyes:
I'm convinced the classic shard threads will go away when...you guessed it...there is a classic shard!!!
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Sergul'zan_SP
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Not a bad idea...they could name it: "UO: Age of Sergul'zan"
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Evlar
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Or how about - "How It Should Have Been"
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Old Man of UO
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Re: I know you devs can see this so...
You can't have it both ways, folks! If EA makes a Classic shard it will take constant developer attention to keep people interested. Siege proved that.
Here's the problem... Classic fans want the old Pre-AOS, Pre-Pub 16, or whatever, and claim it won't take any effort on EA's part. But then they want it constantly updated so it doesn't die from lack of attention... but don't change it!
You can't have it both ways, folks! If EA makes a Classic shard it will take constant developer attention to keep people interested. Siege proved that.
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Aragon100
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Re: I know you devs can see this so...
Like the attack on trinsic which was a blast.
The developer attention i would expect is scenarios.
Like the attack on trinsic which was a blast.
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Evlar
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See, Siege was destined to decline when AoS content was implemented there too. It's restrictive elements also don't encourage players. Want more characters there... you need more accounts, costing the player more money.
As for content, it's received all the main content that the production servers have. It's just a different ruleset. So in some respects, it has had developer attention along with the production shards, but it's not suited the alternative ruleset that's offered.
That is why Siege hasn't worked as well as it could have.
Yes. Scenarios are fine and why shouldn't "classic" shard players have EM events or stories that suit the nature of their world.
The vast majority of people who favour a "classic" option, are pretty unanimous about it being pre-AoS. The majority prefer pre-Ren. Any other discussions that have taken place, are regarding more of the minor details.
Such discussions are actually not so different from people discussing things for the production shards. People agree on some things and not on others. Simply put, the fact that classic supporters have discussed different things, gives those so vehemently against the idea, something they feel they can grasp and throw into arguments against the concept.
At this stage, the only valid counter-argument, is the matter of developer time.
http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=205876
(Apparently we don't bump that thread on purpose, unless an old vet has something new to say!)
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dum3886
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EA and free shards developers should to do a joint venture... im sure they can come up with something...
people want to make a free shard.. emphasis on the free... EA wants more money... or to pay as little as possible as they are a money making corporation after all. free shard = more customers... less work required to reverse engineer the coding ... new resources... potentially finding quality people who could be the next generation of developer...
hmmm..........
Ooo a few more... Less competition especially if they get one(or plural) of the MAJOR free shards.... and as we all know.. UO is like crack... someone takes it away from u (free shards dying)... u will find a way to get it back
people want to make a free shard.. emphasis on the free... EA wants more money... or to pay as little as possible as they are a money making corporation after all. free shard = more customers... less work required to reverse engineer the coding ... new resources... potentially finding quality people who could be the next generation of developer...
hmmm..........
Ooo a few more... Less competition especially if they get one(or plural) of the MAJOR free shards.... and as we all know.. UO is like crack... someone takes it away from u (free shards dying)... u will find a way to get it back
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chuckoatl
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There already is a great classic shard, EA just doesnt run it.
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