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Can we get a "Dislike" button added ?

petemage

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Never seen a dislike button work for positive in small communities. Sure it works better on big platforms like reddit or youtube. But Stratics is imho too small. Everybody knows everybody and lots of people have some history with each other.
 
We don't mind people talking about what a program does, or how the devs should counter what a program does. The thing that will always get removed is actually naming the program, and the reason for that is by naming it for any reason you are essentially advertising for them. If someone sees the name of the program on Stratics, then goes and googles it to start using it... that post just added +1 cheater to the game even if it was a post about how that program should be shut down. Same thing applies to free shards.

Sentence A which is completely allowed: "A well known cheat program used in pvp lets people endlessly use heals automatically, which gives them a huge unfair advantage against other players. This can be fixed be the developers adding ____"

Sentence B which will be deleted: "(Name of program) lets people endlessly use heals automatically, which gives them a huge unfair advantage against other players. This can be fixed be the developers adding ____".

All that has to be done is not say or try to hint towards the actual name of the program or free shard, and the post is allowed. It is only when people start trying to name them or convince others to start using them which gets the post removed.
Even tho we dont mention it, enough is said about what it does, so people already know what it can do or does, even way before they go to any site to see it.
Plus something Ive always seen and works, the more you try hidding something the harder it will appear. If UO and Strats would be open about it, maybe there would be less cheaters. Its a bit why people do drugs? Cause they illegal, if they were to be legalised a lot less people would do them for sure.
Yeah true that maybe you get a few more people using the prgramme but will also helps many others no to use it as they wont be tempted....
 

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Even tho we dont mention it, enough is said about what it does, so people already know what it can do or does, even way before they go to any site to see it.
Plus something Ive always seen and works, the more you try hidding something the harder it will appear. If UO and Strats would be open about it, maybe there would be less cheaters. Its a bit why people do drugs? Cause they illegal, if they were to be legalised a lot less people would do them for sure.
Yeah true that maybe you get a few more people using the prgramme but will also helps many others no to use it as they wont be tempted....
I get what you're saying here, but look at it from my end. Right now Stratics, Meet and Greets, and E-Mails are the most direct ways to communicate with the Devs. If we opened up allowing talk about unapproved 3rd Party Apps we risk that becoming just Meet and Greets and E-Mails. I know they plan their own forums, once they do if they state they are going to discontinue posting on Stratics there are a menagerie of things we (the Leadership Team) will be or already looking at, evaluating, and discussing. At the moment however there is too much risk of cutting off a communications channel to the Devs for the community here for us to consider opening up about these applications among other things.

It's a catch 22, if we clamp down on these topics we're effectively imposed a measure of censorship on the community causing some harm to Stratics, but at the same time allowing free discussion of them also bears the risk of causing potentially more harm to Stratics. Opened discussion would not only be likely to drive the Devs away, but become another source of division inside our community. Already we have CC vs EC, PvP vs PvM, Tram vs Fel, do we really want to further divide it by adding "Cheaters vs Non-Cheaters"? How many people would simply quit using the site or go to lurking instead of engaging with others? There isn't an easy answer, which would be to allow the fully open discussion of cheating methods, nor do I personally believe there will be one later as most of us have realized by now in our lives, the best course of action is rarely the easiest.
 

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One of the forums I am a co-founder and admin on tried this 5-6 years back. People simply quit posting and participating and site traffic dropped by 30% in the first 90 days. It was removed its was 100% among the founders of that board that it would be removed before day 91 rolled around. Took a year to build site traffic back up to where it was. A dislike with no further input is in no way productive and defeats the purpose of pretty much any public forum. Much more productive to mod the consistent negative folks and trolls than to have people leaving the boards because they feel marginalized or disliked with zero input as to why.
It seems to work for Reddit though (not that I support the idea).
 

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It seems to work for Reddit though (not that I support the idea).
You can't compare Reddit to what we have here though, Reddit is for better or worse more community moderation oriented. Our software simply isn't designed for that and Community Moderation only really works well when there is a narrow focus like on Stack Overflow, or when you allow a site to splinter into groups or sects each with a defacto-leader such as with Reddit.


. OK to finish my point

We could but won't put something like what Reddit does in for a simple reason though, people would use it to attack each other.
 

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nice idea BUT lets be honest it will only encourage trolling to the max.... it seems peeps like to troll knowaday... they need to troll... hence the request
 

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The moderation team has decided to move this thread to a more appropriate forum since it's not UO related, these kind of threads are better suited in the "Stratics Help And Suggestions" forum. Thanks for your feedback and understanding
 

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How many people would simply quit using the site or go to lurking instead of engaging with others?
I have gone into a lurking mode on here recently.

Oh and technically there is already a dislike button on the site already! If you like a post that button turns to dislike. Hehe
 
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