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Can Siege get together about being able to undye Faction-Dyed Items?

Agree or Not?


  • Total voters
    34
Y

YuriGaDaisukiDa

Guest
I think your main issue is the cursed artifacts.

They are not respawning, no more are comming, so faction dyes make them more rare for non faction people.

faction dying has no problem on normal gear, it keeps our gear from falling into the hands of our enemies. so that they must work as hard as we did at least for the same gear.
 
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Duke SP

Guest
I voted no, because the way the poll is worded.All faction dyed items should not be able to be undyed.
 
Y

YuriGaDaisukiDa

Guest
I voted no as well and the following posts summed it up quite nicely.






I'll also agree that something should be done about the named faction arties. The name and price should be dropped. Siege faction arties = 5x the cost of prodo faction arties, they get to insure theirs and keep forever, we lose ours repeatedly. That makes zero sense to me.

Reduce to 2x the cost and removal of the name stamp so they work the same as evil/hero faction dyed items. I'd also support complete removal.
agree 100%

no wow soulbind crap.

I like hero evil items, and faction specific items, but named items are a big problem, as you can tell by reading all the negative feedback on the forums.

at least drop the name and make faction arties hero/evil
 

a ghoul

Sage
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I vote no because the hero/evil faction dye is in my opinion a way to reward people who actually play siege with no guards and no safe zones besides a house. By keeping these items exclusive to one side or the other we can keep you non factioneers in GM mongbat loot :)
 
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Ole Cheapy

Guest
I vote no because the hero/evil faction dye is in my opinion a way to reward people who actually play siege with no guards and no safe zones besides a house. By keeping these items exclusive to one side or the other we can keep you non factioneers in GM mongbat loot :)
ROFL at least your'e honest! I respect that, sir.
 

Shh!

Lore Master
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I dye things to make them worth less so that I can (maybe) buy them back for less gold. By limiting the demand, I increase my supply :thumbsup:
 
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Bruin

Guest
I voted yes.

I don't believe that ANY items on this shard should be restricted to use to any person or groups of persons. Period.

All the best items on this shard are faction items or faction dyed items. You want to prevent your enemy factions from using an item, fine, but then why does that item need to be restricted from being used by a non-factioner? And in fact, dying it doesn't prevent your enemies from using it, if I'm in TB and lose my faction item, a COM player (my enemy) can still use it.
 

UncleSham

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no because hero / evil dye is a long time siege tradition . its part of what siege is . dont like the fact that cursed arties are disapearing ? campaign to make those the exception .
(i for one agree there, these are in limited supply ... er ... sort of) but to change the rule entirely ? no.
 

a ghoul

Sage
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I voted yes.

I don't believe that ANY items on this shard should be restricted to use to any person or groups of persons. Period.

All the best items on this shard are faction items or faction dyed items. You want to prevent your enemy factions from using an item, fine, but then why does that item need to be restricted from being used by a non-factioner? And in fact, dying it doesn't prevent your enemies from using it, if I'm in TB and lose my faction item, a COM player (my enemy) can still use it.
For one thing it can help minimize interference from those who are not in factions. Sure there are two types of each hero and villian, but still it prevents the masses from having access to certain items. It just happens to be that these items are usually top notch. Look at it this way if you are not in factions you are a 'UO civilian' who has access to the lowest grade of weapons, the flip side of that is your factioneer a 'UO soldier' he has access to the best weapons & equipment because he is also exposed to the most danger.
 

Sprago

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I voted no as well and the following posts summed it up quite nicely.






I'll also agree that something should be done about the named faction arties. The name and price should be dropped. Siege faction arties = 5x the cost of prodo faction arties, they get to insure theirs and keep forever, we lose ours repeatedly. That makes zero sense to me.

Reduce to 2x the cost and removal of the name stamp so they work the same as evil/hero faction dyed items. I'd also support complete removal.
i agree with most of this
the faction items should just say evil/good vs named. ive always thought they should have did this
the cost not really a problem if the take care of the named issue
but if they were to keep the named on the arties i think they should have the same price as the prodo shards that way nobody really has to worry about buy back just go a new one
 
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Duke SP

Guest
i agree with most of this
the faction items should just say evil/good vs named. ive always thought they should have did this
the cost not really a problem if the take care of the named issue
but if they were to keep the named on the arties i think they should have the same price as the prodo shards that way nobody really has to worry about buy back just go a new one
That or when you die your faction "named" arties just are destroyed and you have to spend (normal prodo price) on a new suit.
 

IanJames

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I just dont' see the point of double insurance for factioners. Lose the dye so we can use some arties that they aren't using anyway.
 
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TigerDyr

Guest
To Wulf....

Gues my explanation was only sound to me ;-).

Well Ian said it in few words but pretty much the same as I tried earlier on.
 

Wulf2k

Stratics Legend
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Stratics Legend
Ian, you want to get rid of the lesser offence because they made a greater offence?

Faction dye isn't insurance in any sense of the word. I've never bought back a single piece of equipment that I've lost, and I doubt I'd have 'bid' enough to do so if I'd ever wanted.

I'm a red factioner. Anybody can attack and (try) kill me anywhere, but I can't return the favour unprovoked in guard zones. If they kill me, I don't want them using my stuff. I don't get to keep my stuff, but they can't use it unless they're willing to say "Ok, Wulf can maim and kill me wherever he damn well pleases".

Faction dying promotes the spirit of Siege.
Named faction arties spit in the mouth of Siege and tell it that it's a dirty girl, and if she wants the $20 she'll put on the kneepads and smile for the camera.
 

Kat

Crazed Zealot
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Stratics Legend
How about we just remove the ability for a non-factioner to loot a factioners corpse! That would be the easiest way to resolve this issue. :p
 

Wulf2k

Stratics Legend
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Stratics Legend
How about factioners have perma-Harrower deaths?

...With area damage around the corpse.
 
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