Bring back West Brit Bank!

[Saphireena]

So lets be careful when we ask for global chats and malls and any other "global" system that makes things "easier". They take away from the game's social underpinnings. And these are a big part of what makes UO.

Hear hear!

 

[copycon]

Luna is the mall that took business away from the old downtown district.

In UO there's another complication though, status (banksitting and socializing and all that Malag'Aste said) that could have kept people in Brit.

Mistakes were made that go beyond simply Brit bank. They go into the entire social structure that made UO great, and still linger by it's nature. But these mistakes were wanted at the time. All those things Malag'Aste mentioned, were things players wanted. The mistake wasn't only on the developers, they were on all of us as a whole (even if some pointed them out as they were asked for).

So lets be careful when we ask for global chats and malls and any other "global" system that makes things "easier". They take away from the game's social underpinnings. And these are a big part of what makes UO.

Trammel has had the same effect.

Do you know what would fix all of that?

I'll give you a hint...

 

[Melchior1]

I have to laugh at the posts of people who say the developers killed WBB and they hate luna... but they have their own vendor house sitting right smack dab in the middle of luna. Then son.. you are what we call... part of the problem!

Last time I checked.. WBB was right where it's always been. Even has it's own Arcane Circle where you can get a level 6 focus! No other bank can boast that!

If you feel so strongly about it, drop out of luna. Take your vendor house to the outskirts of Brit.
There I've given you half a dozen ideas. I'm sure you can come up with another on your own!

Don't just sit there, pancakes at the developers, go out there and lead!

I value this answer but seems like there is something else here besides giving supposed ideas. Let me explain it this way. When Luna was created, people flocked to it. It was convenient and new and appealing. "Most" of us who owned vendor malls or shops through out the vast realm of britania, Sosaria etc, came to a gripping harsh reality. The gig was over! So criticizing me for having a vendor house in Luna is ridiculous. Everyone has a certain way they choose to make money. That's why you are lucky if you find malls still standing today that are outside of luna, malas. I just went thru an old runbook full of vendors. My discovery was grim. Out of 18 malls only 2 still stand with one of them barely holding on. Luna, when born, had mostly the newer generation hanging there and vets like myself were still hanging at WBB. It don't take a genius to see what happened to WBB. The invasion stopped you from going there, period! So where did people go to buy and trade? Somewhere safe and the best spot was luna. I don't think anyone here is b&*t%ing at the devs but making "note and suggestions" to how we can bring those days of old back. Also you have to take into consideration that the UO population has almost been cut in half but is now growing again. So dropping my luna house just to satisfy you is absurd. However, I do like all the comments and suggestions people have made and hopefully a Dev is listening or better yet, this is brought up at the next town hall. And with WBB bustling again, it's very likely to see vendor houses being created beyond it's borders.

 

[Smoot]

Galen, the point of West Brit bank is that it is BIGGER. Others have mentioned it, but really thats the reason. It has a roof. It has an indoor bank. It has side areas for pets. Its better than world chat for selling (myself and im sure many others turn off chat because its just annoying)

If suggested many times just to put a gate not just from brit to luna, but from luna to brit. I asked the devs to leave the luna to brit gate up that was there for an event, but of course it was taken down. If just a simple gate, or gate option were put up, im sure many people would prefer West Brit Bank. It only went dead during the brit invasion, and no one went back.

Now for some pure theorycraft, it would be great to do the same thing to luna. An invasion there with crimson dragons like there was in brit. Then im sure luna Bank would be abandoned.

 

[UODJ]

I'd like the WBB on GL burned to the ground...

Its design is hideously boring...easily the ugliest of all the redesigns. It has zero imagination or flair.

Add Napa to that list. A bunch of flowers and blood leaking off the side of the roof.. It looks hideous.

 

[Legacyee]

The solution to WBB could be something as simple as moving the Luna moongate to the ready made spot just outside the town walls, I feel the current gate position makes going to luna too easy.

 

[Potgut]

That Luna gate is what did it, as many of you stated, when everything is so conviniently close together as it is in Luna (blacksmith, tinker, tailor, provisioner, bank, inn, gate, and etc...) it's bound to draw everyone in such an area.

Sure, me like most humans would, I also like the convinience of Luna too. but for the purpose of UO, somewhere deep within me I wish it wasn't so convinient to begin with. It kind of takes away some of the passive "depth" of the game. It's those kinds of things (e.g. the convinience of everything in luna)that passively take away the initial experience from the game... everything is two step away from everything else in Luna, they might as well take it all the way and put a champ spawn in the bank too.

 

[NuSair]

Luna was designed (poorly, in my opinion) to have everything you need pretty much on 1 screen.

A provisioner that walks around the bank? Really?

In order for anywhere else to compete with it, it would need to be built in the same mold. Or, all the shops in luna would need to be cleared out.

Also, people go to Luna, because people are there.

There have been numerous times that I'll sit at WBB, just chat with someone as they happen by, and they will stop... in an hour or so, there is a dozen or so people there.

If you want WBB to come back, make a commitment to make it your bank and hang out and always go there.

 

[Smoot]

The invasion commonly credited with killing the WBB, or at least of driving the final nail in the coffin so to speak, was long before the War of Shadows, which was the invasion with the Crimson Dragons. The earlier invasions originated from Despise and were specific to Britain. Luna has been invaded as well, at the tail end of the same event cycle that also contained the War of Shadows.

Whenever anyone remembers the WBB fondly I always call to mind all those people who used to complain about it. It was just Trammies, "bank sitting" became a term of insult, people used to fervently wish for an invasion to kill all the bank sitters at the WBB. When we actually got one, however, there were few thanks from the players.

The really funny thing is I have a feeling my posts in this tread are already being reduced to, "Galen defends Luna." Or, even shorter, "Galen cheerleads."

-Galen's player

I was referring to the last invasion that affected brit (only place it didnt affect was luna i think) The one with the crimson dragons that was maybe 2 years ago. Anyway thats the one that killed west brit on Atlantic.

 

[Smoot]

Thanks for reminding me of the names (i never remember that stuff) and for a bit of the lore. Come to think of it i remember now that it was faction related, i think right after the faction revamp (when factions still cared about towns and 300 points was really high) Anyway, yeah i liked that invasion alot. It was fun causing trammel to be invaded by taking towns in fel, and then going and slaughtering all the generals and slaying those beastly crimsons.

 

[Divie]

If they just took out the stupid inner walls around the bank area it would make the luna bank area much more spacious and trader friendly!

 

[Warpig Inc]

It is not the design of Luna area IMO that makes it better. It has become a tradition . The invasion that keeps coming up with the army and dragons was on the east side and never really made it across the river with the spawn back porting. The Repond invasion was the big one that did WBB in.

The SE town and its bank failed to outdue Luna amazes me. Look at it for all the reasons plp say Luna is great. For all those reasons the SE town is better for players use then Luna. Large parking area. NPCs are an extra screen I'm sure is lazy player loss as is the extra screen to walk to the gate.

SE lands just need a serpent pillar or two from tram. Some of the new HS vendors on the docks and quest offer NPC. Center the moongate between the docks and city walls. Better placed stables.

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

Fayled gioa hahaha :loser:

 

[Smokin]

It is not the design of Luna area IMO that makes it better. It has become a tradition . The invasion that keeps coming up with the army and dragons was on the east side and never really made it across the river with the spawn back porting. The Repond invasion was the big one that did WBB in.

The SE town and its bank failed to outdue Luna amazes me. Look at it for all the reasons plp say Luna is great. For all those reasons the SE town is better for players use then Luna. Large parking area. NPCs are an extra screen I'm sure is lazy player loss as is the extra screen to walk to the gate.

SE lands just need a serpent pillar or two from tram. Some of the new HS vendors on the docks and quest offer NPC. Center the moongate between the docks and city walls. Better placed stables.

I think your underestimating the laziness of people. Walking 10 steps to 30 steps is a bigg difference for some.

 

[Skrag]

No one can actually give a good reason for blowing up Luna and forcing everyone to Brit besides "Uh Luna has scammers!" and a bunch of other stuff that did apply to Brit and would apply again as soon as people went back there.

 

[Smoot]

Ultimate reason why West Brit Bank is better that Luna: You can Fish there!

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

I'm pleasantly surprised to see someone has a clue about the political bonanza that is occuring here.

People are so blind that sometimes I ask myself why I am even trying...

It makes me laugh tho, so in a way I'm not a goner just yet.