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Bows I made with a heartwood runic kit, can I have help working out their worth?

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mookin1

Guest
Bow
Exceptional
Hit lower defense 42%
Hit chance increase 18%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 10%
Energy damage 90%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 69/69

Almost pure energy damage and good attributes, perfect for swoops? Especially if you have a bird slayer talisman. How much is this bow worth?

Bow
Exceptional
Hit lower defense 32%
Balanced
Hit chance increase 19%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 70/70

Bow
Exceptional
Hit lower attack 26%
Hit fireball 50%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Energy resist 9%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 46/46

Bow
Exceptional
Velocity 44%
Hit lower attack 46%
Hit chance increase 18%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 49%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 68/68

Bow
Exceptional
Hit lower defense 26%
Mage weapon -23 skill
Faster casting -1
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 50%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 51/51

Bow
Exceptional
Spell channeling
Luck 70
Faster casting -1
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Physical resist 13%
Energy resist 18%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 54/54

Bow
Exceptional
Hit lower defense 28%
Hit life leech 44%
Spell channeling
Luck 79
Faster casting -1
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 37/37

Bow
Exceptional
Spell channeling
Hit fireball 30%
Hit chance increase 17%
Fast casting -1
Swing speed increase 35%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 43/43

Bow
Exceptional
Hit life leech 46%
Hit stamina leech 36%
Water elemental slayer
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 50%
Cold damage 10%
Poison damage 10%
Energy damage 30%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 70/70

Heavy crossbow
Exceptional
Hit poison area 46%
Velocity 36%
Mage weapon -22 skill
Hit chance increase 18%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 20-24
Weapon speed 5s
Range 8
Strength requirement 64
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 75/75

Bow
Exceptional
Hit stamina leech 46%
Spell channeling
Hit mana leech 42%
Luck 68
Faster casting -1
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 44/44

Bow
Exceptional
Hit magic arrow 38%
Hit life leech 38%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 40%
Energy resist 10%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 40/40

Bow
Exceptional
Hit magic arrow 26%
Hit mana leech 44%
Faster casting 1
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 46%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 64/64

Bow
Exceptional
Balanced
Swing speed increase 35%
Damage increase 50%
Poison resist 14%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 51/51

Bow
Exceptional
Hit lower defense 42%
Hit physical area 42%
Swing speed increase 10%
Damage increase 49%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 30%
Poison damage 30%
Energy damage 40%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 49/49

These are the bows I made with a heartwood runic kit. could I have some help figuring out how much they are worth or how much I should sell them for? I'm hoping to at least make back my money on the worth of a heartwood fletching kit, which currently sell for 16-17m on my shard. All the bows are made from Ash btw.

Oh, and should I sell these on a vendor or on UO-auction? If I put these all on a vendor it's going to cost me about 300k a day in vendor fees and if they don't all sell fast then i'm just losing money. Are these bows likely to sell quickly if I put them on a vendor in a good location or is there some kind of selling strategy I should use?
 
M

mookin1

Guest
Also some slayer bows I made here with a little experiment involving a Yew runic kit.

Slayer Longbow
Dragon Slayer
Luck 143
Swing speed increase 20%
Poison resist 14%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 12-16
Weapon speed 4s
Range 10
Durability 189/189

Slayer longbow
Water elemental slayer
Snow elemental slayer
Luck 85
Faster casting 1
Swing speed increase 10%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 12-16
Weapon speed 4
Range 10
Dur 147/147

Slayer longbow
Water elemental slayer
Troll slayer
Energy resist 10%
Physical damage 40%
Fire damage 30%
Poison damage 30%
Weapon damage 12-16
Weapon speed 4s
Range 10
Dur 46/46

Any estimated value on these? I know these slayer ones are pretty crap, not sure about the dragon slayer though.
 
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EB_Arcbolt

Guest
Hi Mookie,

Bad news bro,
You won't recover your expense on this venture.
There are only 2 bows worth anything, the 2 with more than 10ssi, and at best they might be worth only a couple mill each.
All the 10 ssi ones are pretty much firewood.

What wood did you use to craft them?

To give you a goal to shoot for, I would pay over 25 mill for a bow like this.
40+ssi, 40+lightning, 40+di, 40+hld
 
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mookin1

Guest
I used ash for all of them, for the swing speed increase.

Is swing speed increase usually this hard to get?
 
M

mookin1

Guest
Anyone else got opinion on the bows worth? I've seen people get price checks on bows that are worse than many of these and they've been told like 500k or 1 mill or more, should i seriously throw most of those bows away just because they have 10% ssi? There's even one guy with a bow with no SSI atall, very similar bow to one of mine, just crapper than mine, and he was told it's worth over 1m.
 
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EB_Arcbolt

Guest
Hi, I should clarify, that I only PvP, I am not sure of the value in regards to PvM
 
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Connor_Graham

Guest
Sorry man, but none of those bows are really worth much other than the 2 with 35 SSI, and even those aren't worth a whole lot.

I'm sure that pretty much any serious archer would do the exact same thing I do when shopping for bows, and that's to look at the SSI first, and if it's less than 30 (25 for something ungodly) then it's passed over and not given a second look. With a list like you've put up here, I just scanned down and looked at the SSI without even bothering to look at any other mods, as they don't matter if the bow is too slow.

Sorry Mook, but this happens with the runics where you don't get anything worth keeping.
 
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Guest

Guest
Its these kinds of turn outs that make me want to just sit on a heartwood runic should I manage to get one ever. I'm praying they give fletching (and tinker/carp) a good looking at and either give us 120 scrolls, or rework the difficulties so we can like smithing and tailoring have a really good chance if not guaranteed on our craftings. I've also heard a rumor they're working on letting us pick mods, even if its just 1 it'd make a HUGE difference when crafting since we could guarantee a slower bow got ssi.


Rey~
 
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mookin1

Guest
Is it actually worth using heartwood kits these days then or are they expected to be changed for the better soon? The kits cost over 16 million on my server and when the bows you get don't even cover half of that I wonder why the price is so high.

What about yew runics, is it worth using those to try and make a good bow or are you definetly not going to get a high end?

I want something with demon slaying, mana leech, swing speed increase, 40% damage increase although that comes with exceptional anyway, anything else like hit chance increase, hit lower defense, hit lightning etc is a bonus.
 
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Guest

Guest
Yew is really a better idea, figuring its usually 2 mil vs the 16 mil. I'd stick with magic shortbows (I'm not sure but with 150 dex/stamina and 10 ssi the shortbow is at maximum speed), and composites (make with ash and hope to hit 35 ssi). The composites are 100% exceptional and have nice specials, but without the 35 ssi it's going to be slow, especially if you're used to using a magical shortbow. Also with the yew you get alot more shots at getting good mods than the heartwood. Again if you happen to get a heartwood I'd sit on it and wait to see if fletching gets some love, 16+ mil is alot of gold to burn making tossers.


Rey~
 
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Kith Kanan

Guest
now that we can make the lesser artifact bows exceptional , it might be worth using yew kits on some of those , maybe even heartwood
 
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EB_Arcbolt

Guest
is there a difference between eg.
a non exceptional xbow with these mods
35ssi
35di
35fireball

and an exceptional one with the same mods?

What is the difference between non exceptional and exceptional?

ty
 
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If I m understanding what you are asking the answer is no if the stats on the weapons are the same just one says exceptional then there the same if you would have rolled exceptional though on the one that had exceptional they would have added I think not sure what the max is though

Ah just found it it would have been 70 di I think with a cap of 100
 
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Kith Kanan

Guest
<blockquote><hr>

is there a difference between eg.
a non exceptional xbow with these mods
35ssi
35di
35fireball

and an exceptional one with the same mods?

What is the difference between non exceptional and exceptional?

ty

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Yeah the runic kit just wasted a mod on the DI that you could have gotten for free if it was exceptional , if my fletcher makes an exceptional bow it comes with a " free " 40 DI , on a non exceptional bow you " pay " for any DI with a mod that could have been hit lightning 50 or what ever , ofc all this is only if the bow is crafted and not mob loot
 
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Guest

Guest
Umm how are you making the "lesser artifact" bows exceptional? I'm still not even seeing a 1% chance at it.



Rey~
 
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MrMiagi

Guest
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Hi Mookie,

Bad news bro,
You won't recover your expense on this venture.
There are only 2 bows worth anything, the 2 with more than 10ssi, and at best they might be worth only a couple mill each.
All the 10 ssi ones are pretty much firewood.

What wood did you use to craft them?

To give you a goal to shoot for, I would pay over 25 mill for a bow like this.
40+ssi, 40+lightning, 40+di, 40+hld

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There's a bow with all those stats for sale on uo-auction except it has hit poison area instead of hit lightning.
 
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Guest

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Bow
Exceptional
Spell channeling
Hit fireball 30%
Hit chance increase 17%
Fast casting -1
Swing speed increase 35%
Damage increase 40%
Lower requirements 20%
Physical damage 100%
Weapon damage 15-19
Weapon speed 4.25
Range 10
Strength requirement 24
Two-handed weapon
Skill required: Archery
Durability 43/43



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Id pay well for this one seeing as I run 3/6 anyhow, a little higher hitspell would be nice, but still on a good day Id pay close to 3 mil for it! I know Silvanis bow has close to the same swing speed and damage over time as this bow and they run around 750k to a mil, this has the 30 fireball and decent special moves to boot
 
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Connor_Graham

Guest
I just dropped a whole mess of runes. House is called Hunter's Haven. It's located in Malas right across from the Orc Fort.
 
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