If anyone has been playing lately on tc they will know what i'm talking about. Thrower + Dog form + this suit = invuln. Seriously you can redline this person and have 5-6 people dumpin on them and they simply wont die. 1vs1 you can redline them fairly easy but guess what? You can't kill them. What is the real purpose of this suit? I grantee within a week of this publish if things stay the same all you will see are dog form throwers in berserk suits. You think dog form throwers are bad now, just wait till they get this easily obtainable suit.
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Beserker Suit Will Ruin PvP
- Thread starter Cyanide_Mage
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Wrong, once you get down to 10% life i've aied a person 4x and they still didn't move, just stood there throwing their soul glaive at me. The inability to heal means jack when you can take over 200 points in damage at 10% life and still run away.
Hehe you'd think that but at least you can kill those templates/suits. This template/suit makes even an idiot unkillable with 3+ people dumping on them redlined, you have absolutely no chance killing this person 1vs1. And ya, i'm already prepping this char set up for the suit because with the history ea has nothing will be done, 2 days after the patch floods of complains will roll in, it will take 3 months to fix the issue and by then everyone will be running this suit/template lol.well if you figure in,yew gate hugging, faction arties in tram, mystic,tamers,archers and everything else thats been claimed to be overpowered it should all even out then
they need nerve strike on there weapons!!!
trapped box > nerve strike
By definition, Faction Artifacts in Trammel has nothing to do with fighting in Felucca....From the context of the thread it doesn't seem like guild wars in Trammel is the concern; seems like it's primarily conventional Fel fighting.well if you figure in,yew gate hugging, faction arties in tram, mystic,tamers,archers and everything else thats been claimed to be overpowered it should all even out then
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Been a while since I used a Bok, but when did they change that?
Wow, ok so I'm glad I read this.
I copied my nox/fencer/archer over to test the other day and was just destroying this guy. He was redlined, and I doubleshotted him 3 times and he was alive. I thought maybe there was some bug or he was magically getting 2 second bandaid heals or something between my shots.
Yea this suit is bull**** and should not go live.
I copied my nox/fencer/archer over to test the other day and was just destroying this guy. He was redlined, and I doubleshotted him 3 times and he was alive. I thought maybe there was some bug or he was magically getting 2 second bandaid heals or something between my shots.
Yea this suit is bull**** and should not go live.
The QA/bugfix/code tweak budget was blown this month making sure that Item Bless Deeds weren't going to sink the rares community
We'll add this to the list. In the mean time, the armor can not be pof'd so try and do enough damage to destrioy it.(sorry I couldn't resist!)
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The suit is dope... No one plays most shards. So this suit helps them out BIG TIME. Think about it your on a shard with 10 players, there is only so many to kill stuff with. Vamp/With a Bestial Suit/Wall of Mouths/With other kinetic eaters. Anything should be soloable. Don't cry it just makes it better & more posts like this will get it nerfed.
Thats what puzzles me about those threads... how is this an issue ?
LOL
what is on test is there to be... uh tested...
LOL
what is on test is there to be... uh tested...
Like I said in another thread, people who think deco and bless deed will be the main money maker will be in for a surprise trying to buy those armor at lower price later.
Berserker Armor set will only go up in price hehe (If they keep it the way it is)
Berserker Armor set will only go up in price hehe (If they keep it the way it is)
after Samurais (no pun intended)... beserkers...
oh common the whole thing is flawed
oh common the whole thing is flawed
Haha oldschool. People going back to macing just to destroy suits.macer's
Well, I tried to raise attention when it was on Test. But I guess people won't really understand until they too are getting AI'd to death by an immortal.
The funny thing is they just nerfed throwers on ships and sampires in general with the chiv changes. I wonder why they would go backward and give people a suit which makes any dexxer a viable tank.
Does Spellweaving's Word of Death work on players or just NPCs ?
If this spell works on players, when redlined just cast it on the dog form thrower and problem is solved....
whats this?
Oh nothing much, just remember when everyone and their mother was using an archer or a thrower to kill blackrock golems @ Magincia? So they made it so you'd get teleported off the ship.
Know what puzzles me? Posts like this.Thats what puzzles me about those threads... how is this an issue ?
LOL
what is on test is there to be... uh tested...
We're offering feedback on items being tested, you know, like you're supposed to be doing when things are in testing phase.
Cake eater.
I thought you couldn't use specials in dog form. Is the suit so OP that even without any HP regen people are staying alive?
hahaha Lynk... still hold a grudge do we ?
everyone is aware I have no intention of hampering the feedback process here...
In fact if you read carefully my comment its the general tone of the thread which I was commenting ; because it happens often and thats not how you offer feedback to a developper.
You point out logical flaws, invite LOGICAL discussion... do your maths
Beserker suit WILL ruin pvp !!!
DOOM !!!
If anything Lynk, it shows how much a lonely old sob like me can pull worms out of the nose of people like you ; cause it looks like you genuinely tought I was telling people not to give feedback...
everyone is aware I have no intention of hampering the feedback process here...
In fact if you read carefully my comment its the general tone of the thread which I was commenting ; because it happens often and thats not how you offer feedback to a developper.
You point out logical flaws, invite LOGICAL discussion... do your maths
Beserker suit WILL ruin pvp !!!
DOOM !!!
If anything Lynk, it shows how much a lonely old sob like me can pull worms out of the nose of people like you ; cause it looks like you genuinely tought I was telling people not to give feedback...
You can't use specials but the template has such high dps your basic attack is almost equal too an AI, but thats not the issue. The issue is the suit. A person seems to take normal damage up to about 10-20% of their life then they just stop taking damage. I've personally Aied a person in this state 4x and have had them just stand their continuing to attack me. I've seen 3 mages casting + a dexer AIing a person with this suit on and the person still able to run away and not die. I'm just not entirely sure what the purpose of this suit is to be honest.... You hit 10% life and can take 200, 300, 400, 500 points? in damage and not die.... Change the beserker property to something like hit point burst or give it a super HPR effect when you enter this state instead of the current way its set up.
The title of the post was to generate viewership, a post that receives more attention will ummm..... receive more attentionhahaha Lynk... still hold a grudge do we ?
everyone is aware I have no intention of hampering the feedback process here...
In fact if you read carefully my comment its the general tone of the thread which I was commenting ; because it happens often and thats not how you offer feedback to a developper.
You point out logical flaws, invite LOGICAL discussion... do your maths
Beserker suit WILL ruin pvp !!!
DOOM !!!
If anything Lynk, it shows how much a lonely old sob like me can pull worms out of the nose of people like you ; cause it looks like you genuinely tought I was telling people not to give feedback...
Which title do you think gets more views, "Take a look at beserk suit please" or "Beserker Suit will ruin pvp." I explained why it would ruin it in my opening post. You seem to have just read the title and missed the post...
It is fairly nasty and annoying but certainly not invulnerable IMO.
What is much worse and ofc always overlooked is how ridiculously overpowered todays standard sc mage weapon is. Its a complete joke that will never be addressed because it has been around awhile now and favors the caster.
Back when a serious mage wep was very rare you could deal with it. Not anymore.
Take the insane amounts of easily obtained Dci and combine them with the Mage wep that mindlessly sits in the casters hand all day and you have a travesty. I especially laugh though at the few lousy Mages that complain about their mage wep being Disarmed in pvp. Are you freaking kidding me lol? With nothing more then max dci(which is easy to obtain)and a mage wep you are almost unhittable. 0 points invested in template.
How about introducing a balanced mage weapon Bow that has 50 fireball and -20 Archery skill on it?
That way I can wear the Hunters Headdress and still have 120 Archery while being able to cast 8th level spells with 0 Magery skill invested in my template?
That seems crazy doesnt it? Yet thats exactly what you get with todays standard mage wep for casters.
Not to mention that the Devs had to make it even more mindless by gifting casters with the Crystalline ring to make it even easier.
*hops off soapbox*
Exactly. This is the first time I've ever made a post like this because this is really an unbalancing suit. Every template has its weakness, every class can get beat by another class *ie rock paper scissors* But this suit doesn't follow those rules. A mage casting on it is just as effect, or in this case ineffective, as a dexer. No other suit allows a person to hit 10% life and then take another 200-500 damage before they die, none, it doesn't exist until now.
Maybe it will take the publishing of this suit then within a week 80% of the people running this suit to open the devs eyes, but as we all know after they realize their error it will be 3 months before it gets tweaked. Please change the berserk property or do away with it all together.
Options:
1. Change the property to a hit point burst effect like the karma or mana burst.
2. Change the property to function as a massive boost to hpr, ie when you enter berserk state your hpr jumps to 20-30 and remains in effect up until user regains half their life.
3. Change the property to function as when user enters berserk state they automatically regain 30 hit points but the same amount of mana is consumed, ie to regain the 30 hit points you must have 30 mana or effect doesn't take place.
4. Scrap it all together and push it back because their simply isn't enough time to change its function before the next publish.
No! I want my crafter with a mage weapon to be able to solo everything in the game!
Stop making sense of things... no one pays attention.
Sadly no matter how it is spoken this amazing buff will never be adjusted. IMO this is the one of, or the biggest, most unbalancing additions ever added to the game. If -20 mage weapon was never added to imbuing this would be a non-issue but forsight is something the dev team has never had in spades...just like this suit.
Just thought of another fix for the suit.... dont allow it to have imbued properties.
Well if they dont want to remove it from the game or change it they could just make it uninsurable Then "IF" that person does die they lose the suit lol.
I know I know...it would really "upset" people if it could not be insured.
My guesstimate on the situation? Will be put on live shards as is and nerfed down the line after a gazillion ( 20 stratics posters) complaints.
Then "IF" that person does die they lose the suit lol.I know I know...it would really "upset" people if it could not be insured.
My guesstimate on the situation? Will be put on live shards as is and nerfed down the line after a gazillion ( 20 stratics posters) complaints.
Are you crazy ? Your post offered little information and little logic... your tone is condescending and that is funny.The title of the post was to generate viewership, a post that receives more attention will ummm..... receive more attention
Really funny cause its double funny, haha
this is ridiculous hahaha
I just went and gave it a good full test, a little better than my original test that just involed seeing how it worked, and yea its a pancake to kill it, and yea it absorbs a ton of damage when redlined, but i don't buy the stories of 4 people dumping on a guy redlined and he wouldnt die.
That being said it is pretty fricken overpowered in the applications it would most likely be used in.
That being said it is pretty fricken overpowered in the applications it would most likely be used in.
Whats funnier is your failed use of the word "condescending."Are you crazy ? Your post offered little information and little logic... your tone is condescending and that is funny.The title of the post was to generate viewership, a post that receives more attention will ummm..... receive more attention
Really funny cause its double funny, haha
this is ridiculous hahaha
con·de·scend
[kon-duh-send] Show IPA
verb (used without object)
1.
to behave as if one is conscious of descending from a superior position, rank, or dignity.
If your going to attempt to troll a post at least use the correct wordage sir.
haha, double haha, ha ha ha. Amidoinitrioght?!?!
Try imbuing it with hpr on each piece
. Also you can still use greater heal potions while in rage form.Troll who ?
If I wanted to troll I'd use something less direct... are you new to the internets ? and a typo on a quickly written message... hardly a fail...
But nonetheless I'm glad I can make you laugh
If I wanted to troll I'd use something less direct... are you new to the internets ? and a typo on a quickly written message... hardly a fail...
But nonetheless I'm glad I can make you laugh
A typo is a wrong letter, not a whole wordTroll who ?
If I wanted to troll I'd use something less direct... are you new to the internets ? and a typo on a quickly written message... hardly a fail...
But nonetheless I'm glad I can make you laugh
Heal potions got mostly blocked for me, and i tried it with a like 16ish hpr, and actually, some big spurts of hit point regen got blocked, like i'd get runs of a message "2 hps were blocked from healing" or whatever.Try imbuing it with hpr on each piece
yea yea yea... you wana hug do you ?
I'm native, irish and french... in french this is how it would be written if you translated it real badly.
I admit to not giving a huck about its proper spelling... I surrender myself to the law... bring me Mr. Cyanide I am ready to receive my spick'n'shpankin !
I'm native, irish and french... in french this is how it would be written if you translated it real badly.
I admit to not giving a huck about its proper spelling... I surrender myself to the law... bring me Mr. Cyanide I am ready to receive my spick'n'shpankin !
but we have bless deeds!!!!Well if they dont want to remove it from the game or change it they could just make it uninsurable
I know I know...it would really "upset" people if it could not be insured.
My guesstimate on the situation? Will be put on live shards as is and nerfed down the line after a gazillion ( 20 stratics posters) complaints.
i jest
seriously, if its the new flavor of the month, youll see alot of people wearing it,and then the idea gets worn out after an hour of dueling and its a draw. im thinking they instituted this suit to compete with sampires in pvm.we all know how the devs cant think of pvp/pvm changes separately.
Everything points towards them running out of ideas. Lets see the once rare item bless deed is now abundant, and there's a suit that makes you take minimal damage while you're red lined... hmm how many people won't abuse this as a last resort suit when they're red lined? Can't you switch entire suits in the blink of an eye in the enhanced client? TRY THINKING... damn it's not hard...
but we have bless deeds!!!!
i jest
seriously, if its the new flavor of the month, youll see alot of people wearing it,and then the idea gets worn out after an hour of dueling and its a draw. im thinking they instituted this suit to compete with sampires in pvm.we all know how the devs cant think of pvp/pvm changes separately.
LOL!! Even though you jest I still did a facepalm because I totally forgot about the bless deeds