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Luke Carjacker
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I was hunting at the Mephitis (spider) Champ Spawn the other night with two guild-mates, an archer and a dexxer; I am a provo disco mage. We worked the spawn, steadily. As is generally the case, the dexxer dealt out the most damage during the early stages of the spawn, I'm pretty much limited to being a mage (not much point provoking a couple of spiders or discording a giant scorpion). However, in the later stages, I could kill and advance the spawn much more quickly against the more powerful monsters - such is the benefit of being a bard as you all know.
Then, after Mephitis spawned, I quickly provoked 2 poison elementals and 2 terethran avengers onto her (funny as hell watching the poison eles trying to run from her, and her reeling them back in with her web, but anyhow), then got a discord, and followed up with a steady stream of provokes - maybe 20 top level creatures in all. The dexxer was doing limited damage at this point, while the archer was still laying out good damage - especially after the discord. As an estimate, I'd say my provoked did 60% of the damage, the archer 30% and the dexxer 10%. We brought her down quickly, maybe 10 minutes total and out came the powerscrolls and rain of gold.
I then suffered the ultimate indignity when I went to check the corpse and received the message: "You did not earn the right to loot this corpse". What!?! I'm supposed to get credit for damage done by my provokes right? But as it stands, it seems that at best bards get credit for 1 provoke at a time, with subsequent provokes wiping the slate clean (not to mention the fact that the discord probably shortened the fight by 50-70%). This is not just a one-time experience either - I have completed dozens of champion spawns with a bard character and have never received a drop. It was just very clear in this instance because there were only three of us, and I was clearly responsible for a majority of the damage. As a flip I've done many spawns with my discord tamer and I've received quite a few top-level drops (sashes, detective boots, ultra-rare decorations, etc.) so I understand what it takes to contribute at a spawn (bard has 1400+ luck, tamer 1700+).
I asked an EM about this when she had a moment at a recent event, and she confirmed that she knew about this, but that she didn't have direct contact with devs. She suggested that complaining on the boards was the best way to get attention.
So, as it stands, it's completely pointless bringing my main character (not to mention my favorite) to champ spawn unless I plan on acting solely as a mage. Everyone else benefits from the discord on the champ, as well as the easily handling of the level 3 & 4 spawn, but I never get credit for that damage so what's the use? For all the nerfs and indignities that bards have had to suffer through the years (see my other post), couldn't we at least be credited properly for what we do? We get left out when it comes to fancy new equipment and pets, but couldn't we at least have a chance at a drop?
Thank you
Then, after Mephitis spawned, I quickly provoked 2 poison elementals and 2 terethran avengers onto her (funny as hell watching the poison eles trying to run from her, and her reeling them back in with her web, but anyhow), then got a discord, and followed up with a steady stream of provokes - maybe 20 top level creatures in all. The dexxer was doing limited damage at this point, while the archer was still laying out good damage - especially after the discord. As an estimate, I'd say my provoked did 60% of the damage, the archer 30% and the dexxer 10%. We brought her down quickly, maybe 10 minutes total and out came the powerscrolls and rain of gold.
I then suffered the ultimate indignity when I went to check the corpse and received the message: "You did not earn the right to loot this corpse". What!?! I'm supposed to get credit for damage done by my provokes right? But as it stands, it seems that at best bards get credit for 1 provoke at a time, with subsequent provokes wiping the slate clean (not to mention the fact that the discord probably shortened the fight by 50-70%). This is not just a one-time experience either - I have completed dozens of champion spawns with a bard character and have never received a drop. It was just very clear in this instance because there were only three of us, and I was clearly responsible for a majority of the damage. As a flip I've done many spawns with my discord tamer and I've received quite a few top-level drops (sashes, detective boots, ultra-rare decorations, etc.) so I understand what it takes to contribute at a spawn (bard has 1400+ luck, tamer 1700+).
I asked an EM about this when she had a moment at a recent event, and she confirmed that she knew about this, but that she didn't have direct contact with devs. She suggested that complaining on the boards was the best way to get attention.
So, as it stands, it's completely pointless bringing my main character (not to mention my favorite) to champ spawn unless I plan on acting solely as a mage. Everyone else benefits from the discord on the champ, as well as the easily handling of the level 3 & 4 spawn, but I never get credit for that damage so what's the use? For all the nerfs and indignities that bards have had to suffer through the years (see my other post), couldn't we at least be credited properly for what we do? We get left out when it comes to fancy new equipment and pets, but couldn't we at least have a chance at a drop?
Thank you