How does it? If anything it does the exact opposite.
I could understand it if it were say, if you had 100 Prov & only 90 Discord you would HAVE to take the Prov mastery as you're more a master of that than the Discord, but as you can have 120 Prov & Discord how are you not master in both.
I agree, I always found it silly that you can swing weapons indefinitely at 1.25s but jiggling a Tambourine requires a 10s rest.
Eddie Van Halen could do it. So could Joe Satriani. CC or Stevie might pull it off too....
Right, but then what's the next complaint by this OP, "Why can't a Smith's hammer craft leather armor?" You have to change your tool, your talisman, recall to the right shop, gather resources ... there is a lot of setup for each one of these skills. I guess the difference is most people have houses or bank boxes stocked in advance with everything they would need, four or five vendors filled with BODs marked "not for sale," the whole nine yards. And if a person is willing to fill the BODs needed to get, say, a Valorite Hammer, as well as a Barbed Kit, and the person does it without cheats, I can't see the time it takes to achieve those runics wouldn't amount to much more time and effort than it would to switch your bard to a different "style."
Can two or three bards allow for all three specializations to amount at the same time? These buffs are pretty staggering. -32 STR? -32 HCI and SDI? +7-16 Damage every 4 seconds? +8 to all regens plus another reason not to have Magic Resist? To me, there is too much power here to allow easy switching. I guess I'd have to play with them to really see. I mean, if UO was PvM only, I'd agree with you and the OP, but for PvP, oh God, lol.
The situations where peacers and provokers especially are useful in this day and age is very rare. I recently started playing my legendary bard (provo, peace) out for a spin with upgraded imbued armor and omg, its worse than ever. The targeting lag is not noticeable on other chars, but when you're trying to hit fast moving targets (or TWO of them with provocation), then it becomes a significant annoyance and a problem. And even with slayer and legendary ability, my bard skills fail so often that they become more or less useless.
How does allowing you to have all of them change balance in any way? You still can only use a single one at any one time.
Actually it makes templates more cookie cutter, as people yet again will min-max and choose the most beneficial one as the "uber power" one and stick with that, not switching.
Good example, as it shows how it screws one over. If that had happened to archers, a player would have a serious problem if they had a slayer xbow and another slayer that was regular bow. They would have to go do a quest before being able to switch.
That is fine, though I would prefer to see a longer quest, but with more permanent results.
Just as a sidenote, you messed up my imbued suit as it doesn't have mana regen :/
2 things...
I have not tested any of these changes. I have doubts that some of the new masteries will even be useful because imbuing has allowed players to max out most of their stats. I think the single mastery, as I've stated many times already, is the way it needs to be.
because that is not how they designed it, they obviously only want a bard being able to use 1 mastery at a time.
Initiating a skill ends the effect.
That actually sounds quite awesome. It basically makes every pet self-healing like a cu sidhe if you have the Peacemaking mastery. Sweet.
That was not my experience, but I'll double check, I only did it briefly
They already can only use one at a time but being entitled to use them shouldn't go away if you have the points on your template. You should't have to leave the fight and do a dumb quest just to cast a different spell just because the dev couldn't be bothered to code it properly (his own words).
Use the effect on yourself then you can see when it is active on your buff/debuff bar.
Whether you can actually have one or more masteries available, doesn't mean you can use more than 1 of them at the same time. Its exactly the same.
Skill updates are not excatly on par with pie in the sky ideas like a wonder shard that pleases everyone.
Uhm...hello?
How can you chose to use all of them? You can't. You can only have 1, period. If you want a new one, you have to go switch again and quest.
Thats fine for you. I would not have a problem if PvP was removed from the game, gozas were all deleted, etc. but I can think beyond my own nose and realize that others might have different needs than me.
I'm just curious when we actually get to SEE you think beyond your own nose.
See me think? You want me to draw you a picture?
What a witty reply. I guess its just your playstyle that matters in this game and as such any change you don't have a problem with is a-ok.
Yes, I do have a bard, a triple legendary bard. Though no discordance, because she's from the pre-discordance era.
So bardic skills are cancelled by bardic skills...brilliant. rolleyes:
I'm more interested in whether or not the people saying its fine do, or at least ones with multiple bard skills that would be affected by the complaint.
No, for some unknown reason its ONLY Provoke that does it.
Wow, if this is true, then basically every template I can imagine is pretty near worthless. The only thing that makes sense is bard archer (yay, more benefits for archers!
).You can take damage, just can't heal without breaking the effect or using Chivalry... or if its something thats already in effect like renewal (probably).
Thank you for deliberately misunderstanding what I have said
What do you mean for once lol? This is bards we're talking about! Not Tamers with their plethora of pets and pet related accessories or dexxers with their plethora of weapons and specials, no. Bards! They've had nothing for years, and now that they're finally looking at them some of us would like what they do to be worthwhile and not another Firehorn (see nice idea but no ones going to use it).
Its the only real bone bards have had for ages. Nothing would hurt if we get the ability to learn all masteries, in fact it would encourage team play more if we didn't have to go "oh sorry, you're going there? Wait while I go do a quest to switch my abilities, come back in an hour or so"
What about veterinary, does that break it too?
ahem ... it's perfect for second accounts on the side monitor ... hehe (imagine that)Wow, if this is true, then basically every template I can imagine is pretty near worthless. The only thing that makes sense is bard archer (yay, more benefits for archers!
Let's see bard/mage - can't cast spells so in order to use one mastery skill I'm gonna throw away the 360 points I have invested in Mage/Med/Eval as well as the 120 of the points I have invested in another bard skill. F-that.
discord/tamer - can't cast healing spells on pet from a distance and anything worth fighting these days makes it near impossible to stand next to your pet and vet. None of the bard masteries seem to provide enough healing/buffs/debuffs for really tough fights so I can't see any way someone would forgo healing to in favor of a bard song.
necro/peacer - yeah, throw out the whole necro part.
bard/melee - can't take damage. Totally worthless.
bard/archer - seems like the only thing that can work. provoke/discord & archery skills. That's awesome, we need another reason to make more people be archers.
Other than archer, the only viable bard template I can think of is "stand in the corner & do nothing" bard. You can't cast spells & you can't take damage. You can't heal your pets from a distance. Problem is none of the mastery skills is powerful or useful enough (not nearly) for it to be worth ceasing spellcasting or taking damage. If I'm fighting a champ or peerless, I can get far better results by dumping mana or sending in a pet than I could from any of the bard skills.
I can imagine where a "stand in the corner & do nothing" bard could be useful. If you're hunting with a large group against one of the bosses/peerless that don't move around or can be controlled in a fixed location (Baracoon, Neira, Lord Oaks, Melisande, some others), and you're hunting with a group that's just standing around dumping mana & arrows, then a stand in the corner bard can speed things up. But seriously, who wants to play a template where they are FORCED to not cast spells and not take damage? Boy, that's fun! Instead of hitting for 150-250 points per shot on an archer I'm gonna be the guy who stands in the corner and does nothing! Yeah, that's gonna make lots of people want to jump right out and become bards.
No.
