apple timer? whats everyone think?

[SixUnder]

Cmon now Six.. you're a DP dexer and you wanna talk balance.

I agree to an extent, but i think modifications need to be made 2 a handful of curses, not the 30s apple timer.

agree bro, but i been or had GM nox for 9 yrs bud. and all this time i have watched people run around and hit a pot and cure. why not get thrown a bone? poison underused, underpowered for so many years, maybe it needs a tweak yet, but just like the apple timer i think there needs to be things you need to have in your suit/template that nullify it. or items. whatever i guess, its a 100 skill points, i still understand how so many people have problems with it.

there is so so so many aways around it from disarm, to pots to aids, even cleansing winds has a chance to remove it, helll if ya want and your a mystic hop in rock form get in pro. vs. a pure nox melee guy and lol. stand and watch with Gheals up? so many counters.

how about this, if we cant change or get the apple timer reduced how about making resist useful, as in having the resisting spells skill actually let you resist curses? its a idea i havent seen posted. i was so pissed off post AOS ya know, ya spend month and even over a year on some of my guys getting to gm resist having it mean something, and make it now where there are ways around even having it. dont need it for alot of things. but thats besides the point.

actually i had no idea this revamp was coming, i mean i dont check any sections but uo hall or rares stuff just the whole pub came out of left field to me i didnt see any problems in game the way they were besides mystic stuff. not mystic mages im saying mystic/tamers mystic with pixies etc. i missed the whole discussion on the publish or i would of said some serious stuff.

id love to know why mesanna announced it, and hope thats all she had to do with it. cause some of the changes make no sense. specially with some of the weapons and specials, its like huh? what good does that do ya know? i think one of the weps had a special modified, and there is only one wep with the special? and its not useful in anyway shape or form.

be nice if people like you I and others who been doing this for over a decade had a say so in it, most of these changes should of been discussed by people who know how it effects the game. my .02

guess its our own fault, we dont live on forums like some of these people.

 

[SixUnder]

I don't have a problem with 30s. 15s was definitely too low. Maybe 25 and no fails would be okay though.

It does make the EO blood oath and EO strangle spam more powerful.. but you probably shouldn't be dying from that anyways.

actually those combos suck but not near as bad as EO curse, weaken, etc. once you eat your apple. if you dont have mystic or chiv you have no choice but have to wait until you can eat another apple to even defend against those spells.

its not that the evil omen , insert curse spam here over and over that will kill you it is that all the little things add up over a fight. and they get casted on you so many times in a row you forget how many ways your cursed, and then now can even fail with a apple. I always watch my icons on status bar but sometimes when there is like so many and your blood oathd etc. cant do anything offensive, and defensively what can ya do spam weaken, until the next cycle? lol

 

[SixUnder]

The main problem is that people who normally post on stratics get heard because they care enough to goto the dev chats, while pvpers are out pvping and having fun. So we get screwed. Every time. The apples were just fine the way they were. They should drop the timer back down and leave it how it is for removing. That would be fine by me.

sorry i didnt see this post, although the apples needed a bit of change i think it was extensive but what i meant to say to you was how we are not on here enough to see what is going on.