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Any chance for somone to get an old account unbanned?

Fat Midnight

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EA seams to be alot more lenient then they used to be about abusive language, and.... well everything.

A friend of mine had one of his accounts banned in mid 2000 over the following exchange with a thief that we had frequent run ins with:

Thief: (beep) you cracker I got your (beep) (beep)
Friend: Your a black ass
Thief: You racist (beep) (beep) (beep)(beep) (beep)(beep) (beep)

well about 10 mins later my friend got pulled to jail and banned. I witnessed the entire thing. Saw the thief around for a few months after that.

Is there any chance a 10+ year old ban could be reexamined?
 

lankdogg03

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I would doubt it at this point so long after, but I guess it's worth a shot. Years ago you got banned for things that would be considered weak by today's standards. I see very racist and vulgar things in general chat on a nightly basis that nobody ever seems to get banned for. The bad thing is that the insults are so unclever they should be banned just for that.
 

Viper09

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I really doubt anyone has a chance to unban an account. Doesn't mean you can't try though by calling EA.
 
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Fayled Dhreams

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Answer

:thumbdown: not likely ...

Getting tired of your "friend" watching you play >over your shoulder<?

:lol:
 
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PCByproduct

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EA seams to be alot more lenient then they used to be about abusive language, and.... well everything.

A friend of mine had one of his accounts banned in mid 2000 over the following exchange with a thief that we had frequent run ins with:

Thief: (beep) you cracker I got your (beep) (beep)
Friend: Your a black ass
Thief: You racist (beep) (beep) (beep)(beep) (beep)(beep) (beep)

well about 10 mins later my friend got pulled to jail and banned. I witnessed the entire thing. Saw the thief around for a few months after that.

Is there any chance a 10+ year old ban could be reexamined?
Let me know if it works! I got banned once for having a characters name that was generated from the myuo.com pages (back in the day...). I miss "MyUO forums"!! Stratics just gobbled them up!!
 

Mapper

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You say 10 year account, Will it have aged at all whilst banned? I'd have thought not.
 

Lady Storm

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Sorry that account is perma gone. Have tried to get a deciesed friends account back for last few years - his son was mad and got on uo without permission and did a big no no. GM's were fast and baned the account. I had tried the whole time he was still with us to get it active but to no avail. Finally I got into it with Billing and they got me Internal afairs.
Once an account has been banned for such reasons, its never gunna be able to be rezed by anyone. Not even Cal_Mythic can do it even if he wanted to they said.

Very sorry for the loss, we must remember our maners and be polite no matter how bad we want to respond to the banter tossed at us.
 
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PCByproduct

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No. It only counts for amount of payed time. A banned account is an inactive account and thus does not age.
I've had dozens of accounts that, while inactive, aged 10 years. I have screenshots of being [Young] on an ethy with unclaimed vet rewards. *shrugs*

Maybe it's changed for new accounts...
 

lankdogg03

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I have an account that I just recently reopened that had been inactive since 2001 and it was still only 3 months old. Not sure how you have accounts that aged while they were inactive. My main account also did not aged at the different times that I have had it inactive. It's not a new account thing.
 

Viper09

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No. It only counts for amount of payed time. A banned account is an inactive account and thus does not age.
I've had dozens of accounts that, while inactive, aged 10 years. I have screenshots of being [Young] on an ethy with unclaimed vet rewards. *shrugs*

Maybe it's changed for new accounts...
Doubt it. Nothing at all to do with new accounts. I've had an account for around 2000, that's been inactive and active over the past 11 years, and guess what? It's nowhere close to 11 years because it hasn't been active for all those years. No, there's nothing wrong with the dates because I see it as it ages month to month.

Plus, a character with young status doesn't mean anything on an old account.
 

Viper09

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wut?

A 13 year old account that has Young status doesn't mean anything? lol...
Nope. I had a character that I found a while back on some shard that still had young status.

...granted it may be a bug, but it is possible. Regardless, disbelieve your claim about inactive accounts aging.
 

LiquidSolidity

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You want "your friend's" account unbanned even though he used a racist slur against another player? I personally hope they never reopen that account. It would be like saying that this sort of behaviour is ok. I'd be enbarrased even asking this sort of question on this forum.
 
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PCByproduct

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Nope. I had a character that I found a while back on some shard that still had young status.

...granted it may be a bug, but it is possible. Regardless, disbelieve your claim about inactive accounts aging.
Apparently, only Grandfathered accts aged while inactive...so post 2k acct like yours wouldn't have aged... 97-99 would have....but regardless, I had a dozen such accts that I farmed for rewards. :)
 

Viper09

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Nope. I had a character that I found a while back on some shard that still had young status.

...granted it may be a bug, but it is possible. Regardless, disbelieve your claim about inactive accounts aging.
Apparently, only Grandfathered accts aged while inactive...so post 2k acct like yours wouldn't have aged... 97-99 would have....but regardless, I had a dozen such accts that I farmed for rewards. :)
What grants 97-99 accounts the title of grandfathered?
 

Fat Midnight

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You want "your friend's" account unbanned even though he used a racist slur against another player? I personally hope they never reopen that account. It would be like saying that this sort of behaviour is ok. I'd be enbarrased even asking this sort of question on this forum.
"Black ass" is a racial slur? And you do not consider a black char calling a white char a "cracker" racist?

You already accept double standards but lrn2spell.

And yes it was a friends account.
 

Viper09

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I have an account from 99 that does not age when deactivated. This guy is just talking out of his ass. Lets move on.
Figured as much. Was just curious what is considered a grandfathered account.

Back to topic though. Give them a call and see if you can talk them to unbanning it.
 

Petra Fyde

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I've had dozens of accounts that, while inactive, aged 10 years. I have screenshots of being [Young] on an ethy with unclaimed vet rewards. *shrugs*

Maybe it's changed for new accounts...
This doesn't mean the account aged while inactive. Merely that the character didn't.

Three years into a second account we started at AoS I asked my husband if I could finish training the fisherman he'd started. I logged the character on to find it still had a [young] tag yet the account had been paid for every month since it was started.

PCByproduct you seem to be peppering these boards with misinformation. May I ask you to check your facts before leading people astray and sending people off on wild goose chases?
 

Aran

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I got permabanned back in the MyUO days, and after some creative negotiation with someone at EA ended up getting unbanned six or seven months later.

Sucks about losing that amount of account age though :(
 

Basara

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IIRC, the official Account Transfer Service allows the sale of banned accounts, with all marks removed and the account reactivated in the process. However, it costs money paid to EA, and they do make some effort to make sure that it isn't simply being laundered and given back to the original owner.

The question is, do they even offer that service anymore?
 
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It was banned for a reason, pretty simple to just start a new account. I mean, that was 10 years ago... really?
 

Smoot

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Nope. I had a character that I found a while back on some shard that still had young status.

...granted it may be a bug, but it is possible. Regardless, disbelieve your claim about inactive accounts aging.
Apparently, only Grandfathered accts aged while inactive...so post 2k acct like yours wouldn't have aged... 97-99 would have....but regardless, I had a dozen such accts that I farmed for rewards. :)
What grants 97-99 accounts the title of grandfathered?
I don't know what granted them the "grandfathered" status, but yes its true. I have one account that was started in 97 but it was inactive from 2000 to i think 2004. When i reactivated this account i had a bunch of rewards that had built up. However, it went unpaid again from i think 2005-2007, which it did not get time for. So the "grandfathered" status seems to only be good for the first reactivation.

That being said, ive heard from people numerous times, and seen on the boards here as well, that in more recent years any account that goes inactive for more than 5 years is deleted. This seems to be the case post 2004 ish. So, even if the account in question were to be "unbanned" i doubt that it is still saved anywhere.
 

Viper09

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I don't know what granted them the "grandfathered" status, but yes its true. I have one account that was started in 97 but it was inactive from 2000 to i think 2004. When i reactivated this account i had a bunch of rewards that had built up. However, it went unpaid again from i think 2005-2007, which it did not get time for. So the "grandfathered" status seems to only be good for the first reactivation.

That being said, ive heard from people numerous times, and seen on the boards here as well, that in more recent years any account that goes inactive for more than 5 years is deleted. This seems to be the case post 2004 ish. So, even if the account in question were to be "unbanned" i doubt that it is still saved anywhere.
Sounds like your account got the credited time from 97 to 2000, unless it showed 7 years when you brought it up again.
 

LiquidSolidity

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"Black ass" is a racial slur? And you do not consider a black char calling a white char a "cracker" racist?

You already accept double standards but lrn2spell.

And yes it was a friends account.
You should rewrite this post so it makes sense.
 

MrMightySmith

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While exploiting accounts and duping accounts should stay permently banned. Why not let these people pay a "fine" to get their accounts back. Make it a bit large....... I have my orginal account banned and even though there really is not that much valuable stuff on it id definitely regret being a moron and would pay some serious coin to have it back. I realise this will never happen but why not? And like I said.... Exploits based account bans are not eligible.
 

Kaleb

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If you created an Account prior to UO:Ren 97-99 but closed it before it went live 2000, when You reopen the account for the first time(after being closed) you will get credit for the time that one time only. If the account should go inactive again you will not get credit for account age. Has to do with the Vet reward code and when they put in vet rewards. It is a system that made sure that when Vet rewards went live Older accounts would not have to wait another 2-3 years to get what they already deserved.
 

Smoot

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I don't know what granted them the "grandfathered" status, but yes its true. I have one account that was started in 97 but it was inactive from 2000 to i think 2004. When i reactivated this account i had a bunch of rewards that had built up. However, it went unpaid again from i think 2005-2007, which it did not get time for. So the "grandfathered" status seems to only be good for the first reactivation.

That being said, ive heard from people numerous times, and seen on the boards here as well, that in more recent years any account that goes inactive for more than 5 years is deleted. This seems to be the case post 2004 ish. So, even if the account in question were to be "unbanned" i doubt that it is still saved anywhere.
Sounds like your account got the credited time from 97 to 2000, unless it showed 7 years when you brought it up again.
yeah it got the 7 years, so 3-4 years when i was not playing it.
 

Flutter

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Had to have more than just that one thing to get a perma ban.
 

Black Sun

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Plus, a character with young status doesn't mean anything on an old account.
^^^Correct^^^
Young status means nothing. I have a 7 year old account with young status. I use it to hold a house.

perhaps if someone were to "buy " the account and pay the transfer fee....
I'm sure EA wouldn't allow that. That's a pretty big loophole to easily get accounts unbanned. I'm sure there's something in the fine print that says accounts must be in good standing in order to transfer.
 

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Plus, a character with young status doesn't mean anything on an old account.
^^^Correct^^^
Young status means nothing. I have a 7 year old account with young status. I use it to hold a house.

perhaps if someone were to "buy " the account and pay the transfer fee....
I'm sure EA wouldn't allow that. That's a pretty big loophole to easily get accounts unbanned. I'm sure there's something in the fine print that says accounts must be in good standing in order to transfer.
Can I transfer my account access to a player who has been banned from Electronic Arts?

No. Both the former player and the new player must be considered “in good standing” by Electronic Arts. This means that neither player involved in the transaction may have been banned from Electronic Arts. Additionally, you should keep in mind that allowing a member whose account has been terminated (or “banned”) to access the service through your account is a direct violation of the Terms of Service Agreement.
 

Basara

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Yet, I know (second or 3rd hand) of multiple occasions where the account transfer service was used to sell and reactivate banned accounts for a new owner, that came up in conversations on Stratics. Granted, the accounts were wiped clean when the people got them.

What I suspect is that many of the ancient "banned" accounts got an amnesty accidentally or intentionally, during upgrades of the account server. Others probably were not perma-banned, but the original owners thought that they were.

The Transfer service DOES clear out all marks on the account that went to the previous owner, after all. It would be a simple mistake on the EA end to accidentally clear a ban that way, and not notice - especially with CS types that have no inkling of what UO is.
 
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