Another idea for SP...

[Scopulus Falco]

Because I play both Atlantic and Siege and know why people don't come here.

Do you really think players want to spend 3 months just training a char to join a trammy-style RP GM armor crap war... LOL? They can do that kinda crap on their own shard. TONS of Trammy guilds do that kind of ****... WAAAY more frequently than we do.

PvM and item loot in general on this shard is broken. Fix that so in-coming players have a more level item playing-field to compete on... and they'll definately be more apt to come over. Until then... enjoy playing your RP GM armor crap war without them.

Thanks.

Well the RP WAR is Fun for one thing.Not sue if it has EVER happen here.And Like you said they do it alot there so why not here?.(but here there may be a loss of items.)Every one is being Kool with it all.Unlike FACTIONS)

 

[Draxous]

If they could come here and buy or create and sell competitive gear?

Obviously, THE MAJORITY of people who play production shards... play those shards because they like the way UO is currently. That is with item properties, artifacts, peerless stuff and so on. If they wanted to duke it out in GM gear... they would be playing a free-shard.

Why the hell would anyone want to play here when it is nothing like the UO they currently enjoy? They like their necro mage with a 1-hander. They like their sampires. They like their wammys and their sammys. They like their uber gear because that what this game offers them.

Why the hell would anyone want to come here and play a CRAPPY version of Pre-AoS in GM armor... when they can go to a free shard and get the real thing?

Hint: THEY DON'T!

So either we bring this shard in-line with the rest of the game, but without insurance and trammel and take it in the same direction the rest of the game is going, but without insurance and trammel... or accept the fact that you all will be subject to the suck-fest that is currently siege forever.

Because Imbuing will not make sucky items good. It only makes average items good and good items better. It will not achieve... what I know you're hoping it will. So sorry, suck it up and move on.

Thanks,

Bye.

 

[kelmo]

Bye.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

 

[Draxous]

Bye.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Actually, in the context I'm using it in... you apparently have no idea what it means.


BYE KELMO.

 

[kelmo]

Actually, in the context I'm using it in... you apparently have no idea what it means.


BYE KELMO.

Yeah? You mean it in a dismissive manner? Like what I have to say has no merit? Like talk to the hand? Like putting fingers in your ears and repeating "LaLaLa" I cant hear you over and over again?

I get it.

 

[Bruin]

Look, the allowing the housing on multiple shards for Siege basically has two points of view, both of which are looking out for the long term health of Siege. The only difference is in what you believe the final numbers to be.


Side A - Open up the shard to allow players from other shards to place a house here. If only X% of them stay, that's at least X% more players we have.

Side B - If you open up Siege to allow anyone to place, everyone will place. Then all the housing spots will be taken up, and no future players will ever come.


If in reality, this occurs, and 5,000 people place homes and 50% of them stay, then Side A is right. Who wouldn't want 2500 new players (provided that they are Siege material).

If in reality, this occurs, and 5,000 people place homes, and 2 of them stay, then Side B wins. All housing spots are taken up, no new players have housing and it is an epic fail.

Obviously the numbers are exaggerated to make a point. But the truth is, if doing this takes up all/most Siege housing, and nets only 10 players, it isn't worth it. If it nets say >100 players, then it is. We just don't know how many players will STAY. Side A thinks lots will, Side B thinks not many will.

And the arguement about having to manually refresh your house doesn't stick for me. If I'm very active on Atl, it's very easy to log into my Siege character and double click the door. If you remember prior to 9/11/01 ALL houses had to be manually refreshed, and lots of people had multiple houses on multiple shards that they never played, they all just logged into their char real quick and opened the door, then logged off.

 

[Scopulus Falco]

Look, the allowing the housing on multiple shards for Siege basically has two points of view, both of which are looking out for the long term health of Siege. The only difference is in what you believe the final numbers to be.


Side A - Open up the shard to allow players from other shards to place a house here. If only X% of them stay, that's at least X% more players we have.

Side B - If you open up Siege to allow anyone to place, everyone will place. Then all the housing spots will be taken up, and no future players will ever come.


If in reality, this occurs, and 5,000 people place homes and 50% of them stay, then Side A is right. Who wouldn't want 2500 new players (provided that they are Siege material).

If in reality, this occurs, and 5,000 people place homes, and 2 of them stay, then Side B wins. All housing spots are taken up, no new players have housing and it is an epic fail.

Obviously the numbers are exaggerated to make a point. But the truth is, if doing this takes up all/most Siege housing, and nets only 10 players, it isn't worth it. If it nets say >100 players, then it is. We just don't know how many players will STAY. Side A thinks lots will, Side B thinks not many will.

And the arguement about having to manually refresh your house doesn't stick for me. If I'm very active on Atl, it's very easy to log into my Siege character and double click the door. If you remember prior to 9/11/01 ALL houses had to be manually refreshed, and lots of people had multiple houses on multiple shards that they never played, they all just logged into their char real quick and opened the door, then logged off.

WHY WOULD anyone refresh a house every week they dont play on???again ill give you the reward ofLike Rico damn think about it and read every thing thats being said.

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

WHY WOULD anyone refresh a house every week they dont play on???

The same reason they did prior to 9/11...la

 

[Scopulus Falco]

The same reason they did prior to 9/11...la

Man you never lived in any place i have .you locked you doors any way,Shiz i still protect my clan here at the home and it isnt cuz of 9 11 plz,that **** was comming so hard, they tryed once on the same place.LIKE they are ones to just say opps my bad guess ill give up on that.ummmmmm hell no.Join the army stop watching CNN and see what its realy about. they dont care, they wont stop. lol kinda like living in a ****ty hood.they wont stop.

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

12 years in the Air Force not good enough for you?...la

 

[Scopulus Falco]

12 years in the Air Force not good enough for you?...la

umm i also said a lil steet in there. hey if you were there great.At least you can see that part of me I HOPE, but 9 11 didnt make me lock my door. it was somthing that was here at home ALL the time and still is comming ALL the time.you are one to just look at one thing a person said and use it to help you along arnt you?READ EVERY THING.Then think.I helps a lil bit. UNDERSTAND? LA

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Well, it's obvious that English is not your first language, so I won't pick too bad. But it's you that needs to lrn2read. After 9/11, the UO devs suspended house refreshing because many of the players were shipping out but didn't want their homes to fall. That stayed in place for a long while.

*shakes head*...la

 

[Scopulus Falco]

Well, it's obvious that English is not your first language, so I won't pick too bad. But it's you that needs to lrn2read. After 9/11, the UO devs suspended house refreshing because many of the players were shipping out but didn't want their homes to fall. That stayed in place for a long while.

*shakes head*...la

Sorry my bad wasnt here playing games i guess i was doing um some other things in RL .Like i said i was gone for 6 years and im sure you can understand that.(you know in the AIR force and all)guess what though einglish is my 1st lang, and you know what i have a book and 2nd started hmm think ill state ONE more time thats what editors are for. Should i get one just so you can understand what i say Rico?

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Oh, I haven't even started on the spelling...it's the useage of the languange that made me think you are a native of some other country...you may want to work on THAT, so the rest of us may understand what you are typing...la

 

[Scopulus Falco]

Oh, I haven't even started on the spelling...it's the useage of the languange that made me think you are a native of some other country...you may want to work on THAT, so the rest of us may understand what you are typing...la

I think you know what im saying Rico, you must have you seem realy mad bout something, and i realy dont think its my typing, more about what im typing i think.LOL and you know i can see the lil red line under the words i type. hehe

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

Mad? Far from it. What you have said makes no sense...la

 

[Krystal]

not everyone gonna agree on the same ideas people have that might draw people to sp. I say take a vote, i mean seriously why not give it a try?? what is the worse that can happen? the 100 people left are gonna quit sp??
i was only thinking of an alternative to shard transfer, there has been to many problem with that. other shards are suffering and will always suffer because of the bugs and cheats that are involved in it. but hay im even willing to give that a shot. supposedly char trans is all fixed now...

 

[nightstalker22]

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

"Anyone want a peanut?"

 

[nightstalker22]

not everyone gonna agree on the same ideas people have that might draw people to sp. I say take a vote, i mean seriously why not give it a try?? what is the worse that can happen? the 100 people left are gonna quit sp??
i was only thinking of an alternative to shard transfer, there has been to many problem with that. other shards are suffering and will always suffer because of the bugs and cheats that are involved in it. but hay im even willing to give that a shot. supposedly char trans is all fixed now...

There have been many ideas, some good, most not so good. I dont believe giving people housing will draw them here, when they would eventually be forced to lose their houses full of server rares and elite gear that they've been saving for the past decade.

My coming here from Atlantic was easier, as I didnt have all of those things, sure, I lost alot of items, but my soulstones, heritage tokens and such are safe in bank. People have too much to lose with grandfathered if they place a second house, their original houses lose auto refresh status, and they risk IDOC on thier home shard. What if Real Life throws them a curve ball and they cannot log in in time to refresh? They like insurance, they like the safety of auto refresh, they like permanent everything.

What will make this shard come to life is having a great EM... not just an EM, but one who actually loves the game. One who would make use of all the landscapes ( prision in yew, abandoned pirate cave, empty castles, etc... ) An EM who has a staff below him who can help with organizing and fulfilling objectives, instead of having to place NPC's around with scripted messages. This may be out of reach, because that would require a larger budget than EA has allocated for each shard... but that would get people here.

If I were EM ( for example ), this place would snuff out all other shards.

 

[Shh!]

Because I play both Atlantic and Siege and know why people don't come here.

Do you really think players want to spend 3 months just training a char to join a trammy-style RP GM armor crap war... LOL? They can do that kinda crap on their own shard. TONS of Trammy guilds do that kind of ****... WAAAY more frequently than we do.

PvM and item loot in general on this shard is broken. Fix that so in-coming players have a more level item playing-field to compete on... and they'll definately be more apt to come over. Until then... enjoy playing your RP GM armor crap war without them.

Thanks.

So, what is wrong with getting more people to come here to pancake about how much better it COULD be? Think this through with me now...put this housing change into effect allowing players from other shards to give Siege a try.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, 100 players come over in the first month and 20 stick around for that month. Doesn't that give Siege 20 more voices to complain, vote for change, etc on the shard? Even if only 5 people come over due to the change, isn't an influx of people, no matter HOW small, better than nothing? Wouldn't those people ADD to the chance that things will change, not subtract from that chance?