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Age of Black Powder

Zalan

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Since we have Cannons, where are the Arquebus, and Blunderbuss at? It would make sense to have primitive firearms.

If they don't want to give us firearms, can we at least get Throwing for Elves and Humans?
 

Varingian

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A pair of flintlock pistols would be a welcome addition to my pirating gear. There would seem to be many issues with balance however. To accurately reflect the long reloading process and thus slow rate of fire they would need to have a reload process similar to the much maligned cannon function or have a weapon speed of..I don't know...20 seconds or more. Either of those instances could easily be overcome by carrying 30 of them preloaded and then you have machine gun fire..lol. Without the addition of a skill for firearms you would also be introducing a 'free' way to deliver a significant amount of damage. I say significant because if they don't hit very hard no one will use them and thus why introduce them.

A 20 or 30 second cool down timer before being able to fire again would be a partial solution but might go too far. Someone could easily carry 2 or 4 pistols for rapid deployment and the timer would eliminate that option. But without it we are back to everyone carrying 40 pistols. I have visions of the area around the Yew moon gate looking like a smoke filled shooting gallery. Funny thought but probably not good for the game.

I have never played WoW but for some reason, maybe an advertisement, I seem to recall some primitive blunderbuss looking thing. If so any WoW players shed light on how firearms are handled/balanced?

I would love to see some pistols but I really doubt that it will ever happen. I will just have to stick to my sub-machine gun (repeating x-bows).
 

Zalan

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I've played WOW it's treated as another weapon skill. For game balance DPS was balanced with being like a bow. Bows had a faster firing rate, but less damage. Guns longer loading time, but more damage.
 

Dot_Warner

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Archery and Throwing could always be renamed to "Ranged Weapons" with a way to toggle the type like masteries.

As far as a black powder weapon damage goes, keep it in line with current average weapon damages, maybe a 3 sec "swing" (lowered via imbuing) and then add special ammo for increased or elemental damages and effects.

I seriously doubt this is even in the cards though...
 

Fridgster

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Since we have Cannons, where are the Arquebus, and Blunderbuss at? It would make sense to have primitive firearms.

If they don't want to give us firearms, can we at least get Throwing for Elves and Humans?
Wonder how many steps the devs can create to fire said Blunderbuss. May end up being quicker just to stab your prey with a fork repeatedly.
 

Aran

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Wow, when I start a "Where are our guns now that we have cannons?" there's generally more personal attacks by now.
 

Captn Norrington

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Wow, when I start a "Where are our guns now that we have cannons?" there's generally more personal attacks by now.
Since you felt the need to mention that, I went and found your most recent thread about it. So, Savage Empire. Eodon. Time Travel. Ultima.

Notice how when the original poster doesn't antagonize the people who respond, and create unfair polls, the thread doesn't devolve into personal attacks like yours always do? Yeah, that's why.

I am still on the "no guns in UO" side of the argument.
 

Aran

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Since you felt the need to mention that, I went and found your most recent thread about it. So, Savage Empire. Eodon. Time Travel. Ultima.

Notice how when the original poster doesn't antagonize the people who respond, and create unfair polls, the thread doesn't devolve into personal attacks like yours always do? Yeah, that's why.

I am still on the "no guns in UO" side of the argument.
You're still on the wrong side.
 

Zalan

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Got an answer direct from Mesanna from a Meet & Greet. She doesen't want any firearms in UO.
 

Piotr

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Contact NRA and we will have guns in UO in Pub. 95. :smile2:
 
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Ender

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Only if they're not as awful and boring and tedious and etc as cannons.

I'd drop archery for firearms for sure.
 

Ender

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She won't be here forever. One day someone with sense will be holding the reins.
That spot has always been a revolving door. Plus, minds can and do change.

Well. Maybe not the majority here, but...
 

Enziet

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This keeps coming up over the years. Do a forum search next time and save us all the grief of having to re read all the same comments all over again.

The end result is always the same.
 
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