Account linking

[Hurley]

LOL, because you are..."WAH WAH, I (maybe) waited 4 years for my benefits, then everyone else should suffer too!!!"



Except in this entire thread, you haven't been able to come up with a single valid exploit.



Uhm yeah, because I'd then lobby for something that would cut down on my profits...silly.

Number one: Fail. Aren't you crying about having to train skills?

Number two: Myself and others have figured out several Valid ways that this disgusting system could be exploited.

Number three: You would make more money because people could just link accounts w/, use their soulstones, and unlink you instead of Giving Out There Account Information.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Where are you coming up with $80? What transfer fee? It is more than a couple buck to have someone train your skills for you.

6 months account payments + transfer fee.

You're actually right though, skills does cost more than a couple of bucks...but again, it only takes max 3-5 days to get a 100-120 skill char in any skill. So why wait 6 months, when you can have within a week?

The only minor thing would be fully skilled chars, which might slightly be worth it...but then you ontop of it all run the risk of getting ALL your accounts suspended and banned.

The examples have not been rebucked. This can still be abused. And here is the biggest issue you have not rebucked. You have a BIG trust issue putting your accounts on the same CC with your wife or trusting other family members.

How again is that a trust issue? I pay for my stuff, she pays for hers, as its always been. No point in changing that. And she certainly doesn't like to feel that I *own* her stuff by paying for it.

I paid for 6 accounts with family and very close friends with one CC and never once was there a trust issue with this. We all had each others account passwords too.

Ok? Good for you...whats your point?

Do you have your wifes password?

Yes, all of them, as she has mine. Plus access to everything else ranging from my bank account to Stratics account. This is not a trust issue at all, not sure why you keep harping on that.

My wife has all my passwords because I fully trust her. We have a joint checking account.

She has access to everything, but we don't want to use joint accounting, as we like having a bit of seperation between our lives, we pay for whats ours. Only in the terms of gifts, giving and such do we pay for eachother. This makes a bit more special, than paying for a meal with a joint checking account.

We share the same bed. Hell we even eat out of the same frig. It is called we are married and fully trust each other.

We sleep in the same bed, but for practical purposes, we actually have 2 fridges...one part because of the differences in food/drink and one part because I can be a messy slop and she likes a neat and tidy fridge.

Again, nothing to do with trust issues.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Number three: You would make more money because people could just link accounts w/, use their soulstones, and unlink you instead of Giving Out There Account Information.

Again, READ.

This would mean:

- Waiting SIX months.
- Being responsible for at least 2 years for the linked account you unlinked.
- Risk getting marks, suspension or ban on ALL your accounts.
- Give access to ALL your houses at owner level to this business.

You really think someone would do all of this? Not likely.

 

[hen]

But heck, I could just buy a 4+ year old account and viola, didn't earn those things either.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Co-ownership. Already in place

You can't co-own that many. (not to mention even if you could, it would be a mess to co-own 60+ chars to 10+ houses.

A new acct code is 19.99, then 12.99 per month? An old acct is 12.99 per month? So instead of clinging to their old ones because new accounts take years and years to be able to do the same, they start a new acct and EA makes 7 dollars. That's what you're saying

Where on earth did you learn math?

An extra account you wouldn't have had = 13 bucks per month.

Soulstones.

Can't soulstone between accounts.

Whatever you say.

Useless troll.

Really? That doesn't even make sense. How would it change ANYTHING?

Do you have trouble reading? Should I get someone to read it out to you?

My brother's acct is like 4 months old and he has a fully scrolled out character and can do everything in game that my 11+ year acct can do.

He can use weapon engraving kits? He can ride etheral polar bears? Get 720 skill limit? Get +5 stat? etc. etc.

I think not.

 

[Lord Frodo]

By linking them not only in game you are also linking them with the same CC. This should cut down on possible exploits because you would only do this with people you truly trusted. It also gives EA a better way to track linked accounts and a faster way to suspend/ban accounts.

If you get a 2 day suspention do all linked accounts get the same thing. They better.

 

[Hurley]

This guy is getting really mad about his failed idea.

No my brother can't use all of the VETERAN REWARDS that I can use, does that stop him from being able to FULLY ENJOY the GAME. N. O. Period.

Your little idea is totally unreasonable and a waste of time, I just wanted an opinion in here from someone who doesn't cry because they have to train chars in this thread.

 

[Lord Chaos]

By linking them not only in game you are also linking them with the same CC. This should cut down on possible exploits because you would only do this with people you truly trusted. It also gives EA a better way to track linked accounts and a faster way to suspend/ban accounts.

Erhm...tracking by account name is unique and no way to cheat it.

No point in having the same CC, it doesn't make it easier to detect, its already super easy for them.

Account AA is linked with BB and linked with CC.

All 3 accounts are easy to track and see for EA.

If you get a 2 day suspention do all linked accounts get the same thing. They better.

Yes, they do. Making it even more risky to cheat with linked accounts than unlinked ones.

 

[cdavbar]

I wonder why I even read this posters threads anymore.

Many people have shown many reasons why it isnt a good idea. instead you just have to bash them for their imput. IF YOU DONT WANT THERE IMPUT DONT POST IT ON THIS FORUM!

 

[cdavbar]

The only thing that should be "linked" is a bank box where all char on an account can access it, heck id give up 7 sepreate bank boxes for one community bank box.

now thats an idea of linking we should be talking about

 

[Lord Chaos]

I wonder why I even read this posters threads anymore.

Many people have shown many reasons why it isnt a good idea. instead you just have to bash them for their imput. IF YOU DONT WANT THERE IMPUT DONT POST IT ON THIS FORUM!

I respond and refute their exploitation claims, most of them borderlining on trolling.

If you don't want to read it, there's an ignore feature.

 

[Hurley]

Ok, for the last time: You haven't refuted ANYONE's claims. You have cried about being questioned, but you haven't refuted a single point we have made, yet you have quoted people and cried and cried and cried.

Your idea is bad, it is terrible and it is bad. The whole idea is open for exploitation which we have stated, given examples and been cried at and cried at over and over.

Quit crying because you dont get your way.

 

[Lord Chaos]

The only thing that should be "linked" is a bank box where all char on an account can access it, heck id give up 7 sepreate bank boxes for one community bank box.

now thats an idea of linking we should be talking about

Actually a good idea. A common bank box. (you access with another command, like "vault")

This would also be nice to make this "vault" accessible to all chars on linked account. As its very annoying to trade between chars even on seperate accounts. And it really wouldn't hurt anything or anyone.

 

[Lord Chaos]

*you are ignoring this user*

Sorry.

 

[Lord Frodo]

By doing it with the CC then EA and UO knows that you want all these accounts linked and you are most likely not a hacker or some scamer trying to steal something other people worked hard to get. Without EA/UO getting writen permission from all account owners to allow this it is prob. the best and fastest way to verify that all account owners are for the link up. There needs to be a better way then just two people linking account like you would a guild member. It also avoids the possibility of you linking with another person by accident. Yes it involves more work but prevents bigger headaches down the line for all linked parties and EA/UO.

 

[Luisito]

I guess the trade window is the current "Vault" but a community vault would be beneficial how? So you could share amongst linked accounts? I mean cant you set access security to your house boxes and people can access those chest if you need to share stuff?

 

[Lord Chaos]

I guess the trade window is the current "Vault" but a community vault would be beneficial how? So you could share amongst linked accounts? I mean cant you set access security to your house boxes and people can access those chest if you need to share stuff?

He could do the same with his account. But not everyone have homes and you can't access the bankbox from home.

 

[Lord Chaos]

By doing it with the CC then EA and UO knows that you want all these accounts linked and you are most likely not a hacker or some scamer trying to steal something other people worked hard to get. Without EA/UO getting writen permission from all account owners to allow this it is prob. the best and fastest way to verify that all account owners are for the link up. There needs to be a better way then just two people linking account like you would a guild member. It also avoids the possibility of you linking with another person by accident. Yes it involves more work but prevents bigger headaches down the line for all linked parties and EA/UO.

You could just as well just verify it through the account page.

"Accept incoming link request from account XXXX" (Yes/No)

That really couldn't happen by accident.

While CC would be fine too, its just a lot of hassle for many users and for some downright near impossible. Some people might not want to share something like a credit card...maybe the spouse is a "shop-o-holic" or such. A gaming account is a lot less risky than a whole credit card.

 

[Lord Frodo]

You could just as well just verify it through the account page.

"Accept incoming link request from account XXXX" (Yes/No)

That really couldn't happen by accident.

While CC would be fine too, its just a lot of hassle for many users and for some downright near impossible. Some people might not want to share something like a credit card...maybe the spouse is a "shop-o-holic" or such. A gaming account is a lot less risky than a whole credit card.

Now you are understang that this needs to be done out of UO. Account page could have a linked account page. This is a better way than any in-game method. EA could see who you are linked to and who you have been linked to in the past very quickly. Maybe even make it a accept/do not accept, are you sure accept then a warning that all linked account have access to all your stuff in UO accept (3 steps).

So linked account accept in account page with a list of all linked accounts on it (past and present) If account a links to account b and then b links to c even c would show up on a and have to be accepted or link is broken.

Linked accounts able:
1 to swap skill using craftable soulstone frags only(makes a demand for them)
2 full access to all houses (even grandfathered)
3 all accounts get same points/suspentions/bans
4 no need for 6 mo wait period for this
5 vet rewards do not bump up to oldest account linked and they may not use older vet rewards
6 not sure if skill cap should or not but to me it is ok to bump up to 720 and stat gain as long as they remained linked

 

[Lord Chaos]

Sorry I wasn't clear in the original post. Yes, of course it shouldn't be in game, I never wanted that.

I agree with you on everything except veteran reward usage. They should be able to use them, but not claim them. Thats not unbalancing.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Vet rewards are a minor thing. But I think crafted soulstone frags should be the only way to do the skills. Makes a good market for them.

The million dollar question would be, how much is EA going to charge for this, $5 per link. 5 accounts to be linked would be $20.

 

[Lord Chaos]

I don't mind the soul stone frag idea, thats fine.

Didn't think the linking itself should cost money, but this is EA...Maybe 9.99$ total for account link.

 

[Lord Frodo]

I don't mind the soul stone frag idea, thats fine.

Didn't think the linking itself should cost money, but this is EA...Maybe 9.99$ total for account link.

EA will want thier pound of flesh. Even at $10 it wouldn't be a bad price considering the skill transfer alone would be well worth it.

 

[cdavbar]

I guess the trade window is the current "Vault" but a community vault would be beneficial how? So you could share amongst linked accounts? I mean cant you set access security to your house boxes and people can access those chest if you need to share stuff?

Chaos twisted my comment.

My comment simply was a community bank box for the account, not linked accounts not multiple accounts but simply a box that every char on the account can all access. I wouldnt even come close to actually asking EA for this im more for other fixes. But if there is any mention of linking anything this is the closest to anything that would be plausable and unexploitable at most.

 

[Merion]

Way too long a thread - I only read the OP and think the idea is great!

/signed

 

[Lord Chaos]

My comment simply was a community bank box for the account, not linked accounts not multiple accounts but simply a box that every char on the account can all access. I wouldnt even come close to actually asking EA for this im more for other fixes. But if there is any mention of linking anything this is the closest to anything that would be plausable and unexploitable at most.

That could still be fixed by having a house or a secure container in someone elses. So your idea have the same problem.

 

[Lord Chaos]

Way too long a thread - I only read the OP and think the idea is great!

/signed

Thanks.

 

[cdavbar]

That could still be fixed by having a house or a secure container in someone elses. So your idea have the same problem.

No becuase it wouldnt be a community chest placed in a house it would still be only accessible at the bank, i know its possibel many freeshards have this feature. But thats the extent to which i will mention FS.