that was pretty close to what i was thinking, around a 100 tops, , i like em though, i feel they could fit just right in a nice dexxor, ill just pretend it says 8 mana instead of 4 intel and 4 mana lol, thanks guys for all the time and effort, i would be willing to sell for this price range until the day i decide to use, shoot me a message if you want them, thanks again