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What does it cost to make it -20?
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archite666
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Not bad I guess...
From what I was told thats not really that expensive, put certain worth 1 mil probably.
From what I was told thats not really that expensive, put certain worth 1 mil probably.
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uomlplayer
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I too have killed for hour's and only got 2 rune stone's, but -21 is just as good as -20 IMO.good luck getting the arcanic runestone....super rare drop...killed hundreds of monsters with no drops
agree
Til you try to poison someone with 120 resist.
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uomlplayer
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119 magery against 120 resist, do the math and tell me how much doe's the mere 1% hinder you....
Try it, then you tell me. I already have.
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uomlplayer
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I did try that poison's just fine, i'm sure other's have too, if there was that much of a difference i'm sure no one will run around with a -22/-21 mage wep, and asty would not have agreed with me on that one, he should know also....
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uomlplayer
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It only make's a slight marginal difference, you can ask any well known mage out there that uses mage weps regularly and im sure they will tell you theres no big difference.
Test that I ran was 2 runs of 100 attempts.
First run casting mage had 120 magery and the defender had 120 resist. Results were 42 of the casted poisons went unresisted, meaning the target was poisoned 42 times and resisted 58.
Second run the mage had 120 magery with a -21 mage weapon and a crystaline ring giving him 119 magery and the defender again had 120 resist.
Results were 28 of the casted poisons went unresisted.
So you had a drop of 33% effectiveness on your poison. The reason I ran the test was I noticed while dueling Forsaken and Hugi they always seemed to resist a large number of my poisons while I was running the mage weap template. And the reason why people ran -22 or -21 scnp weapons was because -20's scnp are hard to find, not because there was no difference.
First run casting mage had 120 magery and the defender had 120 resist. Results were 42 of the casted poisons went unresisted, meaning the target was poisoned 42 times and resisted 58.
Second run the mage had 120 magery with a -21 mage weapon and a crystaline ring giving him 119 magery and the defender again had 120 resist.
Results were 28 of the casted poisons went unresisted.
So you had a drop of 33% effectiveness on your poison. The reason I ran the test was I noticed while dueling Forsaken and Hugi they always seemed to resist a large number of my poisons while I was running the mage weap template. And the reason why people ran -22 or -21 scnp weapons was because -20's scnp are hard to find, not because there was no difference.
They are still hard to find, and hard to imbue because of the rarity of the ingreds. The good thing is the 21-22 mage weaps can be made fairly easily by a high skilled imbuer.
Plain throw away scnp mage weap 21 weapons with no other mods can be somewhat mass produced now; its adding the dci thats get expensive due to relic frags.
Plain throw away scnp mage weap 21 weapons with no other mods can be somewhat mass produced now; its adding the dci thats get expensive due to relic frags.
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uomlplayer
Guest
Pretty hard to believe a 33% difference in poisons between 119 and 120.
I played a mage for a very long time. Believe it it's true.
I hope everyone is doing well.
Oh I agree, and 20 mage weap can easily be done with the right ingreds but it will cost and no one is gonna be making scnp -20 mage weaps with 15dci as throwaways via imbuing. A super weapon is still gonna cost super weapon price unless we get a drop boost on frags and ingreds.
I do think that a 21-22 in the field is not that big a detriment.
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Ole Cheapy
Guest
Also if the person who has 120 resist plus 120 magery he will resist the poison more than a person with just 120 resist and no magery at all. i know most will prolly disagree cuz it may not be printed anywhere but try it and you will see that magery is actually a compliment to resist.
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uomlplayer
Guest
hahahah, sometime's i wonder if you play the same UO as all of us do cheapsuit....
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Ole Cheapy
Guest
Whats weird about it? it's just an undocumented fact.
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uomlplayer
Guest
A fact that NO ONE IN THE 12 YEAR'S history of UO has ever heard about, this include's people on prodo shard's? *shake's head*.
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Ole Cheapy
Guest
There are a lot of facts that only a few elite players ever learn about, which is why you usually only have a handful of great players per shard in every era of the game, because they discovered these facts and kept them to themselves. But hey it's only a bit of advice in which you can choose to do with it as you will.
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uomlplayer
Guest
Cut to the chase, i will put up 10M for someone to prove to me that 120 magery and 120 resist actually resist's more that 120 resist alone, and if you lose you give me 10M if i lose ill give you 10M, up for a easy 10M cheapsuit?
i have play a mage since 98, and i will tell you you will lose...
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Ole Cheapy
Guest
Example: Take the "Darkness era" for example...no one would have believed he ran with only 35 dex using the axe of the heavens and knocked as many people out as he did...he knew something that only less than 5 people on the shard knew which was the real reason for his success, not the axe itself.
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Ole Cheapy
Guest
After buying your soulforge last nite it left me with about 6k gold to my name.
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uomlplayer
Guest
ok no gold invovled then if i lose how about i just give you 10M if you lose you dont have to give me anything except come on here and post to everyone that you dont know what you are talking about, we can have cybernickel hold my gold, and someone else be a witness to this so called fact....After buying your soulforge last nite it left me with about 6k gold to my name.
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Ole Cheapy
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being that I'm not a greedy person and i happen to like you, I really dont wanna take your gold so easily. besides gold doesnt do anything for me, I'm more of a weapon freak!
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uomlplayer
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Don't worry about it, 10M is just a drop in the bucket, if i lose thise test ,then we can call it a gift from me to you.being that I'm not a greedy person and i happen to like you, I really dont wanna take your gold so easily. besides gold doesnt do anything for me, I'm more of a weapon freak!
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uomlplayer
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ok, weapon freak eh? how about ill imbue you a weapon of your choice with any mods you want on it if i lose??being that I'm not a greedy person and i happen to like you, I really dont wanna take your gold so easily. besides gold doesnt do anything for me, I'm more of a weapon freak!
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uomlplayer
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To cheap suit-a word of advice, don't go spreading rumour's cause when you get caught in a lie, you are the only one that's going to lose creditbility....
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Ole Cheapy
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That is the last game tip I give away for free, but hey I hope no one believes it cuz the less that do the better.
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uomlplayer
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You just keep shoving that foot of your's down your throat...if you know i am wrong why not prove it? i mean,why not get a free uber wep outta this so call "fact" of your's??That is the last game tip I give away for free, but hey I hope no one believes it cuz the less that do the better.
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Ole Cheapy
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Some things simply can't be proven, ea also claims that the only advantage in having gm poison opposed to having only 80 poison is you have a 100 percent chance to boost the level of poison by 1 rather than an 80% chance. Now thats what stratics claim but its actually not the only advantage in having gm poison. How do I know this you ask? Well i didnt run some 100 test to know what I know, I know from experience on the field just like i know about the resist from 9 years experience on the field.
I knew most of this stuff and have had waaaaaay more field experience than half of the bozo's that talks trash on this forum and think they're pvp gods because they learned the new macro or combo or template of the month!
I know what I know because I just know...there is also a stat secret but it is just wayy to powerful to ever tell and I would say about 3 or 4 people on siege know of it. But hey go ahead and have your frivolities and just have a gay ole time if it makes you feel better.
I knew most of this stuff and have had waaaaaay more field experience than half of the bozo's that talks trash on this forum and think they're pvp gods because they learned the new macro or combo or template of the month!
I know what I know because I just know...there is also a stat secret but it is just wayy to powerful to ever tell and I would say about 3 or 4 people on siege know of it. But hey go ahead and have your frivolities and just have a gay ole time if it makes you feel better.
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uomlplayer
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Do yourself a FAVOR AND SHUT IT ALREADY .....Some things simply can't be proven, ea also claims that the only advantage in having gm poison opposed to having only 80 poison is you have a 100 percent chance to boost the level of poison by 1 rather than an 80% chance. Now thats what stratics claim but its actually not the only advantage in having gm poison. How do I know this you ask? Well i didnt run some 100 test to know what I know, I know from experience on the field just like i know about the resist from 9 years experience on the field.
I knew most of this stuff and have had waaaaaay more field experience than half of the bozo's that talks trash on this forum and think they're pvp gods because they learned the new macro or combo or template of the month!
I know what I know because I just know...there is also a stat secret but it is just wayy to powerful to ever tell and I would say about 3 or 4 people on siege know of it. But hey go ahead and have your frivolities and just have a gay ole time if it makes you feel better.
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Ole Cheapy
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favor completed... your lost.