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So I paged a gm....

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Mr X

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2 hours ago about a script miner. He has been grinding away for the last two hours. Anyway since I came back from a long break I have had no success getting gm's to do anything about scripters. I am just wondering is it worth it anymore to call on scripters Has anyone had any success getting gm's to remove scripters? Or should I just start cheating like the rest of the people in UO since there will be little chance I ever get caught?
 

Seinken

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2 hours ago about a script miner. He has been grinding away for the last two hours. Anyway since I came back from a long break I have had no success getting gm's to do anything about scripters. I am just wondering is it worth it anymore to call on scripters Has anyone had any success getting gm's to remove scripters? Or should I just start cheating like the rest of the people in UO since there will be little chance I ever get caught?
When is it ever worth it to page a gm on a scripter? He's probably not directly influencing your play, and you made yourself waste 2 hours of your PAID playtime trying to page on someone minding their own business.

The guy could technically be there, he could have said Hi to the gm, or whatever, and then the gm would be on his merry way knowing the guy was at his keyboard.

You need to stop hovering the GM wack stick over peoples heads and play the game normally, honestly... does it make you feel good when you page on people? It's just silly really.
 
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Mr X

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Maybe I want to sell my ingots and make some gold, but the market is flooded with script miners, so yes that does affect my gameplay. But your post answers a lot of my questions, thanks.
 
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UOKaiser

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Maybe I want to sell my ingots and make some gold, but the market is flooded with script miners, so yes that does affect my gameplay. But your post answers a lot of my questions, thanks.
Which shard so far what I've seen the ingot market is nice and high priced for everything. Making good money on it.
 

FrejaSP

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Why did you not just kill and loot him or let one of your red guildmembers kill him?
Was you not on Siege?
 
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Mr X

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The first time I saw him Freja I killed him, I logged on 8 hours later and was running around and it said I got a murder count, so I guess he just got back to his cpu 8 hours later and gave me a count. That is actually how I knew that person was back online. I have always killed scripters first, but when this does not deliver the message clearly enough I start paging. back in the day you never had to wait more than 30 minutes to get a scripter removed, now... I guess you have to wait forever.
 
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UOKaiser

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The first time I saw him Freja I killed him, I logged on 8 hours later and was running around and it said I got a murder count, so I guess he just got back to his cpu 8 hours later and gave me a count. That is actually how I knew that person was back online. I have always killed scripters first, but when this does not deliver the message clearly enough I start paging. back in the day you never had to wait more than 30 minutes to get a scripter removed, now... I guess you have to wait forever.
Theres really no point anymore you get more from looting him whenever you see him and get free ingots. You page on that and even if there guilty what happens a suspention for a couple days while that goes on you wont be able to get any ore from him and he will be back. Especially most of all the accounts are trow aways so even if one is permanly banned it was a trow away anyway no sweat. Unfortunetly many innocents get caught up on this and gm time is tied handling this waste of time while the little gms we have can be helping someone with a real problem.
 
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Mr X

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He is not smelting, he is running ore back to the bank. Second, I play on siege, takes him 8 days to retrain a character to gm mining. If I ban him he has to retrain mining and tinkering, cause he is making his own shovels.
 
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UOKaiser

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He is not smelting, he is running ore back to the bank. Second, I play on siege, takes him 8 days to retrain a character to gm mining. If I ban him he has to retrain mining and tinkering, cause he is making his own shovels.
Siege yea longer to train mining but not that bad first day he can mine alot of iron and just increase the ore as it goes. Tinkering he can just pick up shovels at the bank. you can grab the ore and smelt it youre self. Im not sure but can thief steal ore in siege from a character now that would be nice follow him around and steal it heh. Oh and looks like you havent being around a while, the current population of uo is extreamly low each subscription is needed to keep UO afloat so the gm dont ban like that I think a gm has to catch him like 5 times before they even consider banning him. But because the gm that we have we share with other games now we might only have 1 gm per shard but it seems like only 3 gm for all the shards put toghether while spending there time on the rest of EA games. Also theres a good chance that alot of the time that hes around doing this so he be able to answer any gm. Actually now he probably read this and will definetly be around watching his back.
 
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Mr X

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You are probably right. Hell can't beat em join em.... My days of clicking buttons is over! Well besides the start script button :p
 

Petra Fyde

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2 wrongs don't make a right, and Murphy's law tends to lead to first time scripters getting caught and habitual ones escaping the net.

Instead of paging on him, farm him. get a packie, or a guildmate with a fire beetle. Every time he sets off for the bank kill him, take the ore.

Several pk's do quite nicely farming scripters. It also goes quite a way to discouraging the habit. Disappointing to return to the keyboard and find the bank empty rather than overflowing with ore?
 
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Mr X

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Well I decided I needed some sleep so I when to bed, but I left my character sitting there and he was refreshed by the scripter. Anyway from 11pm, when I called to server down 5 am, 6 hours, a gm never came.

Petra if you want to claim the prize of the 12 ore the scripter carries his name is krystalyene and he was scripting in the gargoyle city in ilsh. You can mine through the walls and beneath most walls is mineable rock. But it is in teh guard zone, so wait until he clears the npcs before you attack otherwise you will get guardwhacked.
 

Demonous

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When is it ever worth it to page a gm on a scripter? He's probably not directly influencing your play, and you made yourself waste 2 hours of your PAID playtime trying to page on someone minding their own business.

The guy could technically be there, he could have said Hi to the gm, or whatever, and then the gm would be on his merry way knowing the guy was at his keyboard.

You need to stop hovering the GM wack stick over peoples heads and play the game normally, honestly... does it make you feel good when you page on people? It's just silly really.
i personally enjoy watching people that i don't like get suspended or banned, if you do wrong then you deserve punishment... macroing unattended is illegal in uo... so if a criminal does something illegal in real life and you see them doing this should you not report it to the authorities?
 
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Old Man of UO

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When is it ever worth it to page a gm on a scripter? ... ...You need to stop hovering the GM wack stick over peoples heads and play the game normally, honestly... does it make you feel good when you page on people?
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"
Tolstoy's War and Peace
 
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Gwendar-SP

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When is it ever worth it to page a gm on a scripter? He's probably not directly influencing your play, and you made yourself waste 2 hours of your PAID playtime trying to page on someone minding their own business.

The guy could technically be there, he could have said Hi to the gm, or whatever, and then the gm would be on his merry way knowing the guy was at his keyboard.

You need to stop hovering the GM wack stick over peoples heads and play the game normally, honestly... does it make you feel good when you page on people? It's just silly really.
Scripters are cheating. It hurts legit platers. In the past a GM would come. Now they just ignore it like they do most other cheating.
 

Madrid

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When is it ever worth it to page a gm on a scripter? He's probably not directly influencing your play, and you made yourself waste 2 hours of your PAID playtime trying to page on someone minding their own business.

The guy could technically be there, he could have said Hi to the gm, or whatever, and then the gm would be on his merry way knowing the guy was at his keyboard.

You need to stop hovering the GM wack stick over peoples heads and play the game normally, honestly... does it make you feel good when you page on people? It's just silly really.
Well said! People need to mind their own business and not worry what other people are doing when it in no way affects their game play.

Second you have absolutely no proof that he is scripting... that's the reality.

And I thought Stratics Prohibits the naming of players for alleged violations of the ToS. This is opening Pandora's box by naming the accused player when he isn't here to defend himself.

OP.. Lighten up and mind your own business. Go find some enjoyment in the game rather than try to ruins someone other playing experience whose minding their own business.
 

Madrid

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Scripters are cheating. It hurts legit platers. In the past a GM would come. Now they just ignore it like they do most other cheating.
That's garbage. Everytime I've paged for assistance a GM has showed up... Everytime! Now when you page about a scripter the GM is not going to come back and tell you about it. You all want a follow up report like your the lead detective and the chief of police...well your not and your not going to receive any feedback and that does NOT mean a GM did not do his job.

Even if the guy was scripting...if he was present when the GM tried to talk to him there is nothing the GM can do because he cannot prove he is in violation of the ToS.

This has been presented umpteen times on stratics but still we get these mindless scripting posts complaints about how the GM's aren't doing their job. You have no idea what transpired between the GM and the accused.

Griefers...plain and simple.

Page and let the GM do his job and then leave it at that. Stop comming to stratics complaining how GM's aren't doing what they were supposed to when you have absolutely nothing to substantiate your allegations other than the player you wanted banned/suspended is still enjoying his adventures in Sosaria.
 

Madrid

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"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"
Tolstoy's War and Peace
Evil in my mind implies a scenario where man is doing irreparable harm to other men. Somehow this great quote though true in life doesn't apply to this great game.

I got one for you though "How about Live and let Live" if everyone followed that motto we wouldn't need Tolstoy's quote.
 

Multani

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I paged a GM to help me because I could not target my war horse to res it, I tried everything I could think of to do it moving tiles, going through the moongate, recalling and even logging in and out (the horse didn't log out with me) to which I was told to send in a bug report.... which is fine but it would have cost me my warhorse due to it being dead and not logging out with me. So I paged once more describing to him that I had not lost anything yet... but I will lose my warhorse if they don't help me. And the same automated response was given to send in a bug report. So I tried a 3rd time to which I was told if I page again my account will be banned.... lol wooooo thats awesome!!!

Luckily I sent Regine a private message of my issue, and she told me that all I had to do was link my horse to a pet ball to summon it to me!! I mean you'd think the game master would be willing to atleast tell you that much? But his solution to help me was offer me an account ban, lol niceeeeee.
 
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Sunchicken

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"I got one for you though "How about Live and let Live" if everyone followed that motto we wouldn't need Tolstoy's quote."
Worst quote ever
Scripting is cheating i page on everyone i even think is running 3rd party progys or afk macroing. I pay for my subscriptions, thus giving me the right to page as much as somone stuck in heatwood paging because they are scared the spawn will kill them...
 
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UOKaiser

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"I got one for you though "How about Live and let Live" if everyone followed that motto we wouldn't need Tolstoy's quote."
Worst quote ever
Scripting is cheating i page on everyone i even think is running 3rd party progys or afk macroing. I pay for my subscriptions, thus giving me the right to page as much as somone stuck in heatwood paging because they are scared the spawn will kill them...
That is considered griefting against all players of UO you are paging endlessly keeping ques tied and gm not caring because of suspecting everyone.
Also to mention there are approved 3rd party programs for UO and the KR client own macroing system is well pretty good.
 
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Mr X

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I had a guildmate go kill the scripter yesterday after he came back because she wanted kills. I checked back today and he is at it again. Anyway I tried something different, I used the "other" tab to get a gm and of course I got the canned response of you have to use the physical harassment tab yada yada yada. If you read my earlier post after 7 hours in the que the server went down and the guy was still scripting away. Obviously he never got banned since he is back again today.

My next move is to page a gm telling them "my dupe is not working can you come help me fix it?" You think I could get a gm to respond to that?
 
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Thashinel

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My next move is to page a gm telling them "my dupe is not working can you come help me fix it?" You think I could get a gm to respond to that?
Might depend on if u are creatin ore or an orny if it follows ur experience.
 

FrejaSP

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What about slowing him down, with placing blocking items around him or around the forge.

If he is gm miner, he should mine gems too, they should be worth the kill.
 
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