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Tasatail
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Hi i seen some people selling 11th anvi items where do i get them from as i tried most shards and dont seem to have reward to pick so is this another way uo is going get money from us ?
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11th anvi items
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DHMagicMan_1
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They are only available in EA Japan so far... God knows why EA US doesn't want to sell them to us yet... We have to wait for the middle of December but then, yes, we we'll be buying codes to get the items... they haven't given details as to costs or anything yet.
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Tasatail
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ok thanks for the info was hoping was going be a free gift uo already gets enough money out me hehe
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Lord Kynd
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yah and it isn't like UO was born over there WTF ??? why do we get shafted when they get everything ?
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love2winalot
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"Because the whole world is made in Japan", and the parts that are not get re-invented there,...........hehehe
But yes, the 11th anvy items should have been released world wide at the same time.
But yes, the 11th anvy items should have been released world wide at the same time.
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Aboo
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My thoughts exactly. It would be terribly nice if someone from EA actually took the time to explain to us why this was done. At least if they had a good explanation it might not make us feel so much like the step children.
Why mid-December? Why cant we have them NOW. I mean the items and the codes are already produced on the system. Especially when you can transfer these items from a Japanese shard over to an US shard with no problem, what's the reason we have to wait? Ultima Online was made in USA right? or was I mistaken? UO is actually a Japanese game translated in English dand ported to US seems more logical.
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Evilminion
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It does seem rather weird, to be honest. It shouldn't matter what country you're in; you should be able to order the same items.
A question for those who have seen the 11th anniversary collection items: what does your purchase price get you? A single item? A set of items? Or a set of tokens, each of which can be used for any of the items?
Inquiring minds want to know!
A question for those who have seen the 11th anniversary collection items: what does your purchase price get you? A single item? A set of items? Or a set of tokens, each of which can be used for any of the items?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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DHMagicMan_1
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Aparently EA Games in Japan actually produces BOXES for UO that appear on Store Shelves so this 11th Anniversary Collection is part of what you get if you buy the box in a Japanese store.
In the US, EA Games can't be bothered to sell BOXES for UO and if they did, they believe stores wouldn't stock them anyway.
I still don't see why we can't get access to codes from the EA Codes site at the same time Japanese users get access to the boxes though, it's not like it costs EA much to put anything up on their website... (not like they ever put up the 9th Anniversary Code that you need for certain housing tiles though)...
The very least they could do is give us more details on how they will be available... will we purchase a set that will have one of each gift or will we purchase x number of tokens and each token will be good for a choice of one of the Anniversary items...
Give us the DETAILS please!
In the US, EA Games can't be bothered to sell BOXES for UO and if they did, they believe stores wouldn't stock them anyway.
I still don't see why we can't get access to codes from the EA Codes site at the same time Japanese users get access to the boxes though, it's not like it costs EA much to put anything up on their website... (not like they ever put up the 9th Anniversary Code that you need for certain housing tiles though)...
The very least they could do is give us more details on how they will be available... will we purchase a set that will have one of each gift or will we purchase x number of tokens and each token will be good for a choice of one of the Anniversary items...
Give us the DETAILS please!
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eccentricjules
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I decide not to complain because without the Japanese players we probably would have no game left to play.
You answered your own question. Don't ya think the coding that made the asian event with the AoS colors could be run on a US server? And don't ya think that these 11th items *could* be available already to the US?
But then, if these two things had happened, think of all the xfer tokens Mythic wouldn't have been able to sell. And it seems to me that price for the xfer would be pure profit...
Call me a disgruntled cynic, but its all about the $
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Kyrie_Elaison
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On the flip side, without the players from other countries, I can guarantee you that UO wouldn't exist.
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eccentricjules
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Yeah... thats basically what I meant.
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Teeshy
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If you translate the page on UO.jp, they come as a "master token" - exactly the same on Test Cenre I think, when you go through the gate in Umbra =)
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Kyrie_Elaison
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I guess I wasn't clear enough. Without the European and North American continent players, UO would not exist. Japan does not have the player base to keep UO running by itself. So it's kind of a double edged sword. We need them and they need us.
I wonder if they understand that boxes on the shelves bring in new players. Many people have no idea UO even exists. Why would they?
Remember when vet players would stand around in Haven to help new players learn the game? I have seen several returning players, but haven't seen a new one in quite some time.
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eccentricjules
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Well, I don't really agree with that. I think they should release boxed copies every so often but these Anniversary releases would probably not sell as you are expecting. As always, the majority of these are purchased by current players only it becomes a big deal because they don't ship on time or pre-orders get messed up, etc. If players buy tokens on the web its a LOT less hassle for them and their profit doesn’t shrink from production costs. I think doing SA as a retail box is good enough, 11th doesn’t need a box.
Most hard-core gamers have heard of UO and the reaction I usually get is "oh, I didn't know it was still around!" Its not that they haven't heard of it, it’s just that it's not the latest and greatest. These days most people play what their friends are playing. Sure, they could get a handful of new players who buy the box and play for a good length of time but that would be a very small number. A lot of new players quit unless they find player support.
Do you buy random MMORPG games from the store without researching them? How did YOU start playing UO? I started because a friend played and that was back in 1999. I never would have bought it otherwise and that's the truth.
Actually, that is exactly what I did. And guess what..it was an ani box. I picked it up for $15 and figured with the 2 week free trial I would give it a try. If I hadn't have seen it there, I probably never would have played. I used to play the original game and thought I would give it a try. I played C & C, Might & Magic and hundreds of other titles. UO was the first game I ever tried online.
I'm not saying they should put out a box with every ani, but expansions like ML & SA would be nice to see. So people know it's out there.
I'm not saying they should put out a box with every ani, but expansions like ML & SA would be nice to see. So people know it's out there.
Wow, well, first, I think the explanation *has* been given, both by Jeremy and Kilandra.My thoughts exactly. It would be terribly nice if someone from EA actually took the time to explain to us why this was done. At least if they had a good explanation it might not make us feel so much like the step children.
EA Japan is releasing their own SKU with these items as part of a promotion, and once they've finished their initial run they'll be available here as well. Releasing codes online at the same time would completely conflict with their promotion, but we have made sure we'll have them too.
These items aren't replacements for Veteran Rewards, or anything else commemorating the 11th Anniversary of UO. We still have quite a bit of the 11th Anniversary year to celebrate
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sapphirediablo11
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i wonder what colour the bow is going to be on this one hehe or maybe it will be a new graphicI see nicely wrapped boxes in my future
!!!!!!!well that idea is gone now :|
I want a glacial blue bow LOLi wonder what colour the bow is going to be on this one hehe or maybe it will be a new graphic
well that idea is gone now :|
AARRGGH!Wow, well, first, I think the explanation *has* been given, both by Jeremy and Kilandra.
EA Japan is releasing their own SKU with these items as part of a promotion, and once they've finished their initial run they'll be available here as well. Releasing codes online at the same time would completely conflict with their promotion, but we have made sure we'll have them too.
These items aren't replacements for Veteran Rewards, or anything else commemorating the 11th Anniversary of UO. We still have quite a bit of the 11th Anniversary year to celebrate
Yet another teaser!
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FishinFool
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Actually, I think the last box that hit the shelf was something of a failure due to lousy "bonus items" - sorry but most of the 9th annv gifts look plain awful and the housing tiles have been a blight on the landscape. And the 2 prior wound up being bought out by existing players seeking the bonus items.
In other words, I'm sure they ran the numbers and realized that they didn't get any significant increase in subscriptions - which is what pays the bills - to justify the cash outlay.
Unless you can get a box on display at the premium price , 49.95 , they are just hoping to break even.
What they SHOULD at least look at is going the Guildwars/EQ/Wow route and get a cardboard sleeve display box - free 15-day demo out on the shelf in some test markets.
In other words, I'm sure they ran the numbers and realized that they didn't get any significant increase in subscriptions - which is what pays the bills - to justify the cash outlay.
Unless you can get a box on display at the premium price , 49.95 , they are just hoping to break even.
What they SHOULD at least look at is going the Guildwars/EQ/Wow route and get a cardboard sleeve display box - free 15-day demo out on the shelf in some test markets.
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Warrior of Time
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We still have till New Years day before this calendar year is over. We also have till the 12th year to get a box too. It has been put off this long. There are other things in the works. We never had anything for Thanksgiving. We may get it then. We never got a Valentines day gift. We may start a Thanksgiving one.
Maybe Thanksgiving is too close to Christmas to start one on Thanksgiving. We may start the year off right with a New Year's gift. I think I will just wait before I complain. We have been suprised before. They may do it again.
Maybe Thanksgiving is too close to Christmas to start one on Thanksgiving. We may start the year off right with a New Year's gift. I think I will just wait before I complain. We have been suprised before. They may do it again.
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eccentricjules
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Never say never, we DID get Valentines day gifts forever ago. They included valentines candy, cards (that were the graphic of deeds) that had our names on them, red goblets.... I forget what else. I think it was 2001 or somewhere around there.
Also I remember on Thanksgiving we had turkey's that ran around. They didn't drop anything when you killed them though, not that I can remember.
I like it when they "mix it up" and not give us the same things over and over. Although, it would be nice to get more soulstone frags this year for xmas to go with the new skill gain scrolls from champs. =)
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Aboo
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While I thank you very much for responding, I guess my post didn't quite translate as I intended it to. Now if this has been explained before let me apologize in advance because I have not seen it. Why is it that "EA Japan is releasing their own SKU with these items as part of a promotion" and EA (insert what should be here for the rest of us) isn't? Why is it that the rest of us get it AFTER their promotion? "Releasing codes online at the same time would completely conflict with their promotion" - why do they have a promotion and we don't? I hope I have worded my questions to reflect what I am really asking.
Again, thank you for responding. Of course it's just another teaser but it does give us something to look forward to.These items aren't replacements for Veteran Rewards, or anything else commemorating the 11th Anniversary of UO. We still have quite a bit of the 11th Anniversary year to celebrate
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DHMagicMan_1
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I was going to ask Draconi to clarify this as well. It's nice that he can say "Well we don't want to conflict with EA Japan so we had to wait a month, but you won't lose out..." but the real question is "Why does EA Japan get the "Initial Special Treatment" in the first place? What is it about the Japanese client base that justifies giving them "Specials" like 1 month prior access to this collection... or Code Store access to the Pigments which we never got and aparently never will?
So these items need to be purchased with RL cash like from the UO Game Codes site? Or are they a reward for being a current player?
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DHMagicMan_1
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These will be $$ from the Code Site.. but aren't available in the US until Mid December... they are currently available only in Japan as part of a "Box" release in game stores there.
Thanks. The dates don't bother me, but I'm not one who's inclined to buy items for RL cash. The furthest I've gone in that direction was for an account upgrade to ML.
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Aboo
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I do like to buy these things when they are offered to us, at least some of them, but I really think it is very unfair that people in Japan are able to get these items, bring them to US shards and sell them for ridiculous sums simply because they got them first.Thanks. The dates don't bother me, but I'm not one who's inclined to buy items for RL cash. The furthest I've gone in that direction was for an account upgrade to ML.
I personally would wait and would never pay those sums. However, there are people who would see them and think "Whoa this is a very rare item and I must have it" not realizing that if they are patient they too could obtain them. Just seems very lopsided and unfair, in my opinion.
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DHMagicMan_1
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Draconi,
Since you took the time to respond with only the "Party Line" that the Japanese have a 1 month Special and then we'll get it...
How about taking the time to tell us WHY the Japanese keep getting this special treatment? Getting 1 month "first access" or get far better stuff available in their online codes store (like Dyes of Tokono) than we ever do?
I understand that we will get it after a month so they can sell their boxes... I just don't understand WHY this arrangement was agreed to in the first place, why it never happens the other way around and why EA/Mythic doesn't seem to address these questions!
Since you took the time to respond with only the "Party Line" that the Japanese have a 1 month Special and then we'll get it...
How about taking the time to tell us WHY the Japanese keep getting this special treatment? Getting 1 month "first access" or get far better stuff available in their online codes store (like Dyes of Tokono) than we ever do?
I understand that we will get it after a month so they can sell their boxes... I just don't understand WHY this arrangement was agreed to in the first place, why it never happens the other way around and why EA/Mythic doesn't seem to address these questions!
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Aboo
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You put it sooooooo much better than I could.
LOL I dunno either man...
question:
How come when PS3 launched there was a major super shortage of not only consoles in the US but also a shortage of decent games or games in general?
answer:
Because so many ppl were still buying PS2s in America it still made Sony #1 in the console wars for North America. And even though the 360 had successful launch it still didn't beat the sales of the PS2.
So basically the competition for the console wars wasn't in the US as Sony had it locked down already with the PS2 still.
They focused on Japan because that was the only area of the world where the 360 coulda been seen as a threat.
Kinda same thing here...EA figures that for UO to survive they need to promote their Japan sales harder than the US market....
To you its a game but for EA its business and property. For god sakes EA doesn't even advertise for UO at all in magazines or Television in the US.
If theres one thing I've learned about business is that when it comes to marketing theres no such thing as discrimination.
I.E. In marketing most of the time its good business and very profitable to target a certain genre, or race, or class, or nationality even.
We will get em too in due time.....I jus don't understand the situation with the dyes and why US shards dont have easier access to them other than X shard trading......Does EA sumhow make money from X shard trading cuz it seems they have been implementing actions that do require unnecessary X-shard trades
Mainly from Japanese or Asian shards to the Western Shards
question:
How come when PS3 launched there was a major super shortage of not only consoles in the US but also a shortage of decent games or games in general?
answer:
Because so many ppl were still buying PS2s in America it still made Sony #1 in the console wars for North America. And even though the 360 had successful launch it still didn't beat the sales of the PS2.
So basically the competition for the console wars wasn't in the US as Sony had it locked down already with the PS2 still.
They focused on Japan because that was the only area of the world where the 360 coulda been seen as a threat.
Kinda same thing here...EA figures that for UO to survive they need to promote their Japan sales harder than the US market....
To you its a game but for EA its business and property. For god sakes EA doesn't even advertise for UO at all in magazines or Television in the US.
If theres one thing I've learned about business is that when it comes to marketing theres no such thing as discrimination.
I.E. In marketing most of the time its good business and very profitable to target a certain genre, or race, or class, or nationality even.
We will get em too in due time.....I jus don't understand the situation with the dyes and why US shards dont have easier access to them other than X shard trading......Does EA sumhow make money from X shard trading cuz it seems they have been implementing actions that do require unnecessary X-shard trades
Mainly from Japanese or Asian shards to the Western Shards
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eccentricjules
Guest
Well, a couple years ago xfer tokens were a gift, based on acct age if I remember correctly. Other than that the tokens come from uogamecodes.com for $19.99 each. Since you need gold on the shard you are transferring to you'll probably take one of your main characters. So that’s one transfer token to get there and one to get back, that's basically $40. Sure, it’s cheaper in game, IF you can find the tokens to buy... but a lot of people shell out the money for the codes.
Transfer tokens would be an AWESOME Christmas gift.
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RichDC
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Actually we did get a Valentines this year remember the stuffed animals??
Also if any of you have been to champs recently youll notice they all spawn as a turkey!!!(pretty cool cept slayers no longer work)
Stuffy Dwagon!!!
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Coranthe
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Why the "Wow"? You expected a different reaction from us?
There's the problem. There should never have been a their.
Ok..... I have a thought..... But wouldn't it burn you right now if you actually were in Japan and had paid money for the Promo items and then come to find out you'll be able to craft two of them now?????
Not that I am in Japan or anything but it just seems to me that if I were that might totally honk me off...
Though I think they should have been on the crafting menu anyway as well as many of the things from the heritage tokens.... such as the Vanity..... And rugs "should" be craftable....... infact I think they still ought to be a craftable item.... Made directly from yarn..... Perhaps they could come up with some way to make craftable rugs.... they don't have to be like any existing rug they could be different but I think a craftable rug that you can dye would be totally sweet....
Not that I am in Japan or anything but it just seems to me that if I were that might totally honk me off...
Though I think they should have been on the crafting menu anyway as well as many of the things from the heritage tokens.... such as the Vanity..... And rugs "should" be craftable....... infact I think they still ought to be a craftable item.... Made directly from yarn..... Perhaps they could come up with some way to make craftable rugs.... they don't have to be like any existing rug they could be different but I think a craftable rug that you can dye would be totally sweet....
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Lord Kynd
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kinda wondering who exactly is getting screwed over here, us or them. they bought there post's, and can now make them.
i bet that was one of the main selling points too.
the rest of the stuff is not to super cool, but the post's are something people have been asking for for 11 years.
EA Japan Developed the items, and it is customary to give the designer(s) a bonus dependant on how the items was profitable, and for the designer to get shafted by not recieveing a bonus becasue it was purchased elsewhere then the designers woudl leave, and EA Mythic could not ride on their development coat tails anylonger.
Snow at britan was developed in Japan, the 1st few round of purchaseable items were developed in Japan with the exception of the design of the tot 1 pigment colors.
EA Mythic North America seems to ride on EA Japans design items lately, not sure exactly what it means, but it is happening alot!
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Kith Kanan
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I want the euro servers to be run by the japanese section of EA instead of the US section !!!!
Can we get a vote on this ????
Can we get a vote on this ????
It's past a month now so I wonder when they will finally let us buy them.
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DHMagicMan_1
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Are you speaking from KNOWLEDGE or is this a "Wild Guess"? My guess is that there aren't separate development teams both modifying the game code for the same game, because they could too easily change something that would break the other teams work, but I'll admit I don't know how this is working. I'm betting that EA Japan is simply a MARKETING arm selling the existing game in the Japanese market under license. They may be able to request modifications and may, as part of their license agreement, be guaranteed x number of development hours per year to work on their development requests but I really doubt they have their own dev team modifying code and publishing it back and forth between two teams.
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Lady Kiara
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2 thing i get from this....Wow, well, first, I think the explanation *has* been given, both by Jeremy and Kilandra.
EA Japan is releasing their own SKU with these items as part of a promotion, and once they've finished their initial run they'll be available here as well. Releasing codes online at the same time would completely conflict with their promotion, but we have made sure we'll have them too.
These items aren't replacements for Veteran Rewards, or anything else commemorating the 11th Anniversary of UO. We still have quite a bit of the 11th Anniversary year to celebrate
1. They still have a year till the 12th anniversary to get stuff to you...
2. There buying time to come up with better anniversary items...
Could be a big surprise instore who knows...
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Aboo
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Haven't we gotten to mid-December now?