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Can you solo a DarkFather?

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jerseyboy

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just curious if theres a template that can because i went to doom a minute ago and found it was dead but 2 DF's walkin around. dont think theres anything i can do by myself so i was wondering if anyone could solo a df......and can i play with u...lol
 
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Sir Kenga

Guest
Yes, many templates, almost every template, just for most it takes too much time. I think provo mage is the easiest.
 
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laurlo

Guest
never tried... I think it'd be more fun though going with a group.
 
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jerseyboy

Guest
i agree its more fun with a group... however, after shouting out at the bank "anyone want a ride to doom" for a few minutes and nobody responding, i assumed whoever wants to go to doom, has prolly already got a character in doom, so i figured id go join the fun, to my surprise not a single person.


kenga, u said its possible with many templates... is it at all possible with a straight paladin?

swords
chiv
parry
tact
healin
anat
and a little resistin spells?
 
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jerseyboy

Guest
Sure yes. Hit and run. Heal. Repeat.
im guessing that was sarcastic...lol.. that tactic seems like it would take a really long time.... and ill remind u..theres 2 dfs there! i guess i could ping pong back and fourth between them and heal in the middle..lol..
 
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olduofan

Guest
NEVER pallys sux have for a very long time pretty much use-less unless your fighting damoens only :)
 
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MYUO

Guest
just curious if theres a template that can because i went to doom a minute ago and found it was dead but 2 DF's walkin around. dont think theres anything i can do by myself so i was wondering if anyone could solo a df......and can i play with u...lol
Any fighting template with provoking has a chance to solo df. Some of them will take longer than others. The spawns, especially the rotten corpse, are provoker's best friend.
A tamer should be able to solo df with greater dragon even without provoking skill. The tamer needs to have fast mana regen rate to cast great heal and the greater dragon needs to have superb resists. The spawns, especially lich lords, are the biggest enemy of the tamer.
I have soloed df with my tamer and my archer bard. Both take quite a long time (30+min).
 
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Sarphus

Guest
I've solo'd DF on a caster, but I had crazy SDI, discord and super slayer scrappers.
 

Setnaffa

Certifiable
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Soloing is definitely doable on a Paly (any weapon, but Archery is the easiest) or Tamer/Bard (Provoke).

Last week it took me about 15 minutes to put down a DF with my Paladin. Whomever said they are useless doesn't know what they are talking about.
 

Ender

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Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
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NEVER pallys sux have for a very long time pretty much use-less unless your fighting damoens only :)
Must be talking pure paladins, because I know a paladin with bushido and a little necro can kill almost everything ingame ;)
 
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UltimaSword

Guest
My bard mage can make two df's attack each other. So I can solo one lol
 
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5% Luck

Guest
The important thing to remember is he regenerates HP over time. If you kill him to slowly you are losing credit for any of those regned HPs.

I solo him on my provo mage it takes me about 5-25 mins. Sometimes he spawns alot more nastys! So when its 25 mins i am sure hes regened at least half the bar meaning im only getting half credit towards a drop.

I can see an argument about the "point" system negating my above statement but this is what ive been noticing as I solo him compared ot the drop rate. So if you want to solo him on any template, ou can but, IMO its not worth it.
 

Tom_Builder

Slightly Crazed
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I can with my archer. Here are his skills:

120 Archery
120 Healing
110 Anat
110 resist
110 tactis
100 bushido
50 Chiv

I carry deamon and undead slayers, I shoot and run alot. Takes about an hour for me to take one down, but I rarely die. One thing I noticed is I get more artifacts off the minor bosses then the DF.
 
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olduofan

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120 swords
120 parry
120 anatomy
120 tactics
115 healing
85 chivalry
40 focus

strength 125 / hit points 126
dexterity 125 / stamina 130
intelligence 31 / mana 31

hit point regen 9
stamina regen 3

D/I = 91% plus EO1/SLAYERS
H/C/I= 33%
D/C/I= 24%
R/F/D= 12%

All 70 suit accept fire 61

maybe I just don't know how to play but this charter is worthless

if you have any suggestions please let me know?
 
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Shot

Guest
120 swords
120 parry
120 anatomy
120 tactics
115 healing
85 chivalry
40 focus

Skills:
120 swords
120 parry
100 bushido
110 tac
100 anat
90 healing
65 chiv

I get by with 65 chiv, fail a few times on EofO but otherwise works just fine. In fact you could probably get away with 50 chiv and add the points to tac and anat if don't mind failing on SJ, a lot. With Bushido you can add lightning strike, confidence, and evasion. Also gives you a bonus to your parry.

Stats:I'd get dex up to 140 to bandage faster. hit points are fine. Mana sucks especially if you have no MR other than from focus, and no LMC.

all 70's is not as important as getting as much stats, HP, Stam, and Mana mods, and MR, LMC (unless you depend heavily on HML on your weapons) IMO.

You have to find a balance. I try to keep my resists above 60 while maxing out stats and trying to get as much HCI, DCI, LMC, MR in that order.

I use M&S glasses, fey leggings, stormgrips, RBC, and ring of vile. Sometimes I'll put on Spirit of the Totem for the HCI, as I recently switched to a brace that had great stat mods, but less HCI than I'm used to. I have friends who use jackal's but you will regenerate mana quicker with med. armor.

Hope that helps a bit.
 
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Sir Kenga

Guest
I do 160-180 dmg on non discoed / non cursed DF with my archer. And it takes only 500 skillpoints (other 220 points are pvp related - alchemy and ninjutsu). If i had bushido would do 220+ dmg on each hit. Could solo DF but i don't like to stay alone in Doom, as it take too much time...
 

Freelsy

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Could always try this out

120 Swords
120 Parry
120 Bushy
120 Tacts
50 Necro
120 Spirit
70 Chiv

Use a two hander, preferably an Ornate axe...make sure the ornate has Lower defense (high) Damage inc (High) max swing speed, Stam leech (high) and if you want have life leech or hit lower attack, those both would help alot. with 180 stam and 30 SSI you can swing it at 1.25 seconds.

Now for armor, your gonna need alot of stam inc/regen (so you stay swinging max speed). Have a complete 70's suit, max out your dci/hci (dci is great for the added parry, and the hci works great with the lower defense). Get in some lower mana cost and mana increase. if you have 50% damage inc on the wep, it shouldnt be to hard to max this out, or as close as possible.

Stats - I would max out your dex at 125 (with armor and pots take it to 180), maybe put str at 100 (if your using spirit of totem, it would put it at 120 and any other pieces you have that might add hit points.) put the rest in mana, have 50 int. be a elf and get the extra 20, making it 70 mana total. more than enough to do what we need to do.

Now for attacking. I've taken this setup from alot of different posts and put this together. some people like using Vampire form...i dont like doing this. heres what i do. Go into wraith form (for the mana regen from spirit speak) , cast EOO, consecrate weapon and start attacking. Use curse weapon to heal yourself, it heals you for half the damage you do....if you have the right suit/weapon dealing out 150 + damage every 1.25 seconds, thats 75 hits your healing yoruself for every 1.25 seconds. just gotta make sure that curse weapon is on always. now for the spawn, use the bushido skill whirlwind attack and attack everything around you as it spawns. you will now be healing yourself for all the damage your doing to everything....which is alot. be sure to kill the spawn quick though and dont forget to curse weapon. Now if you get blood oathed run away and get rid of it. It takes a while to get used to but once you have the process down you can pretty much tank anything and everything

- - - - - - - forgive me if things have changed in game for i have not solo'd anythign big in quite some time. This is how i used to do it, and you dont need all those added items to take any such skill above its normal value.
 
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olduofan

Guest
dude thanx for all your help but im some what lost you peeps are far to smart for me lol

hey thanx 4 the points ( i just dont understand other skills that well )
 
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trammelite

Guest
just another "nerf 'em" thread. *shakeshead*

and an intended one too, i assume, because everybody reading uhall can predict the result of a posting like this.
 

Nystul

Lore Master
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I can solo DF in 4 minutes. I'd post how but then there will be a "nerf" it thread.

DH record is 9 minutes.

Shimmering record is 14.

All solo & I'll be unaffected by the upcomming patch.



Can't wait to solo more bosses in the next expansion to make people cry about it.
 
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Shot

Guest
cast EOO, consecrate weapon and start attacking.
Forget about consecrate on the DF, it's a waste of tithing and mana. The DF is straight 30's across all resistances, so consecrate will do nothing for you.
 
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Shayne

Guest
That's not a good example. He's cheating in that video.
All he did was run a script to cut the bones the DF throws at you. Other than that the template is simular to what I run for my Doom runs.

120 Swords
120 Spirit
120 Parry
100 Chiv
90 Tactics
70 Focus
50 Bushido
50 Necro

Suit is over 70 on each, corpse proof, mr 11, hci 50, dci 45, dmi 30 w/o weapon, 40+lmc, +25 str, +35 mana/int, +33 stam/dex, +60 ep -- no shield

I use a demon / elemental katana in wraith form with curse weapon.

Basically, you're invincible unless you get blood oathed, but then you just remove curse yourself. I carry a lot of pots with me so I can get 150 str 150dex and 80+ int.

There is not a single 1 way to get this done, but its different for every character. Have fun :)
 
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