Anybody ignorant enough to make this comment is either a trammy who knows 0 about pvp or an all kill newb. Anybody who thinks that super dragons that have the ability to kill somebody in 2 hits is part of pvp is a moron. They are wayyyyyyy to over powered and guilds like cop that can't pvp abuse them.
Just kill the pets, the owners will die fast without there pets help.....Gank them back!
Its type hard to kill the tamer when the super dragon can drop you in 3 seconds
Dont try to take on a super and its owner alone, get one or two to help lol. A tammer is a gank templet by itself, SO GANK THEM BACK!
The one thing I wish they never did was bring in power/stats scrolls. And I sure hope they don't bring in any more power scrolls for skills that don't have them yet!
No there not evil but saying "all kill" and then invising yourself while your dragon runs after your target shows skill?...... Also the skill is in the char not the pet so when the pet dies, can the tammer still pvp and win? Ive never seen it yet, when the pet dies the char dies or runs away. You dont see the pet die then the tammer ownin anyone by him/herself, not even the dread horse or cu side tammer archers.
It is kinda of a hit and miss kind of thing. If you fail with the pet or they manage to distract it the tamer can be dropped. I am not saying that is an easy thing to do on a greater dragon, of course. But hey, just try and find a bard to discord the thingI would agree that tamers do not have the skills that a dexer or mage has but it does take skills to tame the animal does it not. And again if you go to fel be prepared to win or loose no matter what you are going against. The tamer knows that if their animal(s) die then its pretty much game over.
Everyone gets to have an opinion BUT this statement is way out in space. If my bow had its own hit points, could attack on its own if attacked and could still kill someone even if i die first then this statement would fit....but as we all know thats just not the case. A tamer archer/mage also can attack along side your pet. Dont compare the two... I do agree somewhat though, people need to quit complaining because tamers arnt that tough to kill. This is a template that doesent require pvp skills although it does require very tuff to gain Skill points. So yes building a tamer is by far the toughest template to build but is the easiest to play pvp, you will get kills but you also will be dead alot so stock up on ins money.
I don't remember putting *chuckles* at the end of former statement nice misquote to add a little drama.
So please if you play an archer I'm not sure it's good to call tamers 'no skill' pvp.
How do we know the tamer can only survive as a stealth archer if the pet dies? lolAnd as you implied, once the pet is dead the tamer; unless a stealther with archery, has very little chance of surviving without their pet. The tradeoff here is quite fair methinks
Well your COP and 75% of your guild is stealth archers and 20% tammers and a couple mages, so you are saying you are in the biggest "no skill" guild on shard then. And if archer is so easy to play good in pvp, why can i kill all of your archers solo with my mage or arhcer? Its easy for me yes but there much more than double click hehe. And if not deleting YOUR "chuckles" comment from my quote is drama to you then COP is also the biggest drama queen guild on shard. Glad im no part of that.I don't remember putting *chuckles* at the end of former statement nice misquote to add a little drama.
Being that an archer takes around 3 days if that to max out is a two button point and shoot template I'm not sure if I would be willing to compare it with a tamer, much harder skill to raise plus points and commands...I think at the end of the day the very easy archer would be a perfect choice I know because I have a red archer who I began my pvp experience with it was extremely easy to play considering my connection was terrible being from another country. And as you implied, once the pet is dead the tamer; unless a stealther with archery, has very little chance of surviving without their pet. The tradeoff here is quite fair methinks
You should know that archery and stealth isn't the only option for a tamer to have for an offense and defense skill, lol. Tamers can also be mages too, believe it or notAnd stealth archer tamers have more of a 'chance' being the operative word, of surviving after their pet dies than a tamer without any other offensive/defensive skill.
There are a lot more skills than just archery and stealth a tamer can have, lol.What you have in your guild and what you all play are two dif things, you all play the stealthers and tammers but im sure you all have other char templates. Im basing my statement from what i have seen you guys play for last two months in the game.Skull; your statistics on cop stealth archers aren't accurate, I suggest you check the templates via uo.com guilds. COP has a diverse mix from mages (more than two) tamers, archers, stealth archers and melee. We aren't JUST a guild of one particular type of template unlike some guilds running about. And stealth archer tamers have more of a 'chance' being the operative word, of surviving after their pet dies than a tamer without any other offensive/defensive skill.
Well I obviously am only one person so I cannot raid your spawn, 1 vs 12+....besides I was in a pvp guild for 5 years and thats all we did was spawn, over and over and over.....you can have it, I dont need scrolls, my chars are complete. And as far as crying and whining, its funny how anyone in these forms that has an opinion that differs from yours, you call them whiners and there crying. I wasnt the one complaining about the dragons and tamers, I was giving options how to kill them and there controllers. Going back, you seem to be the one whinning, all i did was repond to this post. And I play an archer and a mage regulary. My PVM tamer i tried in pvp, not good for me so for last few weeks at least, my tamer is also a blacksmith/minor.....New Topic!
. Rather sounds like some whining about those terrible tamers having the audacity to invis themselves. They should keep still so archers can shoot at them! <--- There ya go sound advice on how to beatem.
Go back and read again = his advice. Too lazy to quote them for you..."No there not evil but saying "all kill" and then invising yourself while your dragon runs after your target shows skill?...... " (Skullcollector)
Up there doesn't sound like sound advice on how to beat a tamer
No, i was answering a question jag was asking, i was giving an opinion......you look way to deep for an excuse to call someone a whinner. Im betting the childish comments arnt far behind"No there not evil but saying "all kill" and then invising yourself while your dragon runs after your target shows skill?...... " (Skullcollector)
Up there doesn't sound like sound advice on how to beat a tamer
Well then you need to quit whinning yourself then right? Or are you a hypocrite? And please all tammers do not get me wrong, you have every right to play in uo where ever you want fel or tram. And yes taming is the hardest templet to build. PVP means player vs player and if i dont think someone using a pet is skilled in pvp on that char because its not player vs player and pet, thats one to many "P"s. BUT AGAIN, i welcome tamers as well in pvp because to me they are no issue and i dont die to them. I really do enjoy all who wants to try out there templates.Almost everything we post here is an opinion or someone elses opinion. And you stated your opinion quite clearly by simply jumping on the 'taming is not skill' bandwagon. Why deny this by assuming that an opinion is exempt from whining. You weren't just giving advice on how to beat them. Now really enough is enough, tamers exist get over it.
Err can you refrain from using 5 cent psychology by using terms like 'credibility' to make me feel like I somehow should tell you who i am, which is childish at best. Now Skull you should know all about hypocracy, you leave a guild because they ally with people you apparently detested and are now best of friends with those you once passionately protested against. It appears you need to have the last word, so go ahead post your last post. Oh btw it's 'tamers' not tammers. Ty for responding
I think most are talking about raising taming skill without tokens. Not everyone can afford or bother raising taming with advanced tokens. Raising taming skill starting with bought NPC skills takes much longer than archery or melee jewelery or no jewelery. So I find your comment fairly redundant. If I were to buy an advanced token for archery I pretty much would have my character up and running in about 3 hours and probably wouldn't have to wear archery skill jewelery at all.
Dont wana say who you are?....figures lol. Well you talking about pvp and skills is kinda a joke now considering we have nothing to judge you by. Maybe you should stick to telling people how to build a char instead of how to use them. As far as we all know your just another bottom of the barrel cop suport char thats all talk.Err can you refrain from using 5 cent psychology by using terms like 'credibility' to make me feel like I somehow should tell you who i am, which is childish at best. Now Skull you should know all about hypocracy, you leave a guild because they ally with people you apparently detested and are now best of friends with those you once passionately protested against. It appears you need to have the last word, so go ahead post your last post. Oh btw it's 'tamers' not tammers. Ty for responding
