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Tamers on Siege, yea its a problem

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Goron

Guest
Here is your typical naked dismount tamer on siege. He sits inside the guardzone, and near the healers, completely naked with JUST bolts on him and HCI jewels plus a 20HCI siege blessed weapon.
GG, havik doesn't even wear HCI jewels most of the time.
He carries bolts. thats it.
but occasionally wears armor he loots off other people's kills while his dragon stands guard.
 
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Shakaja

Guest
trolling?
I'll play:
*cough* last night *cough*

A pity I couldn't get a good screen shot of both your dead characters (one being a tamer) side by side like Hugi/Bo... It sure was cute.

Next time, try waiting until you have three times as many of us online before you come out of the house you all were hiding in. Just outnumbering us by one or two doesn't seem to do it for you.
i appreciate it that 6 of us outnumber your 15+ by 1-2 guys, but i was more talking about numberwise, not skillwise ;P
 
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Goron

Guest
hmm.. odd, i just went and counted numbers from my screenshots...
in not one of my screenshots did we have more than 8 people in luna. At no time did we have more than 7 people outside of luna walls (where the fight was).

Now mind you, these screenshots were all from the first encounter- you know, the first time you died on both your characters. I don't have any screenshots from when we killed you guys again 20 minutes later- so maybe then we had 15 people around as I don't have proof to show otherwise.

oh well, I guess by now you must be used to failing, so I won't bother to remind you that you failed again- oops, i went off and did it.
 

T'Challa

Certifiable
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
A screenshot of a battle with TNT means nothing in terms of numbers, what with their second highest skill average on uo.com being hiding...
 
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Shakaja

Guest
hmm.. odd, i just went and counted numbers from my screenshots...
in not one of my screenshots did we have more than 8 people in luna. At no time did we have more than 7 people outside of luna walls (where the fight was).

Now mind you, these screenshots were all from the first encounter- you know, the first time you died on both your characters. I don't have any screenshots from when we killed you guys again 20 minutes later- so maybe then we had 15 people around as I don't have proof to show otherwise.

oh well, I guess by now you must be used to failing, so I won't bother to remind you that you failed again- oops, i went off and did it.

well first off, tchalla said it quite well. plus you always just count your tnt people, i count your entire alliance. also its funny how you make it sound like we did horrible. in neither of the two fights did you manage to kill all of us, and in both fights did we kill more people than we had total. i killed 6 guys myself, died 3 times. and i can guarantee you i looted way more than i lost xD
 
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Goron

Guest
well first off, tchalla said it quite well. plus you always just count your tnt people, i count your entire alliance. also its funny how you make it sound like we did horrible. in neither of the two fights did you manage to kill all of us, and in both fights did we kill more people than we had total. i killed 6 guys myself, died 3 times. and i can guarantee you i looted way more than i lost xD
I use this neat program called uoam... its really cool, it shows where everyone is! isn't that neat?
Those are the names I counted...
How else could I make sweeping statements like 'only so and so many people were outside luna walls... how big do you think my view area is? I used the uoam form each screenshot...


you guys are smrt!
 
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Goron

Guest
what with their second highest skill average on uo.com being hiding...
lol yeah, our skill average of 49.1 hiding sure does out trump K0C's 48.2! That .9 difference is like, what? the equivelent of a couple more overall points? wow... way to fail
 
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Goron

Guest
plus you always just count your tnt people, i count your entire alliance. also its funny how you make it sound like we did horrible. in neither of the two fights did you manage to kill all of us, and in both fights did we kill more people than we had total. i killed 6 guys myself,
lol... your post still cracks me up!
RDY!?
Here we go:

I count 5v5?



wow, a dead shak!



how cute! Two corpses of the same player!



Jeeze, where is our huge army? I only see six of us!



poor sir dan



thats so weird, I only see 7 TnT OR TO at a time!?!??!
Maybe my uoam was broken!
(note, YES, the pics are edited... Thats obviously not my full screen... I moved my uoam closer to cut down on image size. So please don't waste your breath with that argument).


This is all form the first encounter.
After this you guys got even more people on. At that point you had us outnumbered by 1 or 2. Yet we still dropped several of you with little of our own losses. Sorry, no pics...
 

Draxous

Grand Poobah
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
You really just posted a bunch of screenshots with you camping brooks house with 3x's our numbers?

lol!!!

Dude, 7 us versus 25+ a little over a week ago and we ****ing WRECKED you. We stood at west luna gate (no house hiding) and WRECKED your guild, your allied guild and JSV who was trying to flank us from the rear.

Your terrible.

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say or trying to prove... but your screenshots are hilarious.

Do you like.... take a screenshot and virtual high-five one another every time you gank someone?

Now stop hijacking this thread with your insecurities about how lame your guild is at pvp.

lol?
 
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Goron

Guest
You really just posted a bunch of screenshots with you camping brooks house with 3x's our numbers?
wow... u r worse than shak.. even when i put up screenies showing otherwise you still claim you are outnumbered by 3x!
lol, you guys crack me up.
 
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DHMagicMan_1

Guest
Just out of curiousity, couldn't there be a game mechanic that you have to be VISIBLE for your pet to follow/guard/whatever you?

I don't know how pets could follow the commands of an invis person anyway. If they made it so either your pet would get confused or had a % chance to get confused if you weren't visable, that might change the dynamic a bit?

No?
 

Wenchkin

Babbling Loonie
Alumni
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Follow isn't an attacking command, so shouldn't be restricted to visible players.

Kill commands should always reveal players, whether they say them or click on the pet's context menu. AFAIK those both make you visible right now. It used to be that you could say all kill, then go into hide, stealth up to someone and drop some angry pets on them, but that was fixed. I think around the time when they made you reveal when you started mining or chopping trees. I could be mistaken though, I'm rubbish at remembering publishes ;)

I think there sounds to be a bug where a player can sic their pets on players while not revealing themselves, but hopefully players are submitting bug reports when they see players abusing said bug. It needs fixing, along with a lot of tamer bugs we've acquired lately.

Wenchy
 

Anakena

Seasoned Veteran
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Any damage cap would need to take into account the armor limitations here on SP. There aren't a lot of 70's suits running around here. It's a problem we've had with weapons in general here, too much damage to take in a 40-50 unbalanced resist suit. It's no surprise that it's extended to pets too.
This is why I think it is time to give base resist of 60 each for having legendary resist. This would help with some issues in Siege-like shards.
 

Draxous

Grand Poobah
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Any damage cap would need to take into account the armor limitations here on SP. There aren't a lot of 70's suits running around here. It's a problem we've had with weapons in general here, too much damage to take in a 40-50 unbalanced resist suit. It's no surprise that it's extended to pets too.
This is why I think it is time to give base resist of 60 each for having legendary resist. This would help with some issues in Siege-like shards.
I've been pushing for that for years...

magic resist skill divide by 2 equals your elemental resists.

No one listens tho...

You'd even still have to wear armor because 0 phys resist.

And players without resists can still wear armor to keep competitive.
 

Anakena

Seasoned Veteran
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
I've been pushing for that for years...

magic resist skill divide by 2 equals your elemental resists.

No one listens tho...

You'd even still have to wear armor because 0 phys resist.

And players without resists can still wear armor to keep competitive.
Exactly. It would be an elegant way to reduce problems on Siege, while just adapting to the reality of production shards and giving a boost to that skill.
 
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Tully

Guest
Lmao, how many years have gone by :)

And still the Tired ol Goodcry playing the same ol tired game singing the same ol tired song..

Sad in a comical sort of way really :/
 
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Nestorius

Guest
I'm still waiting for the day, someday, when the melee warrior will be the unbeatable template. For now, I like having tamers on top. For one, you can RUN from them!

Not too sure what the heck one would be doing trying to take on 6 tamers in Luna. Of course they are going to beat you. That's no reason to cry NERF!
 

JC the Builder

Crazed Zealot
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Campaign Benefactor
Just remove bonding from Siege all together. It is just another system that shouldn't have been added to the "hard" shard.
 
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