What happened to deleting all the new guard zone houses?

[JC the Builder]

They said that all the houses would be deleted on Monday. Some were. But then there are others that were not. It looks like they only focused on larger ones in Britain.

And this is definitely a new house, not one of the old ones that are legal.

 

[BbqLou]

They said that all the houses would be deleted on Monday. Some were. But then there are others that were not. It looks like they only focused on larger ones in Britain.

And this is definitely a new house, not one of the old ones that are legal.

lol

 

[THP]

I dont know of every spot that was placed....

But iam talking about the big grass patch just north of Britain moongate...U know the grassy patch that takes a 1818 ... that every single player who as ever played uo will have tried to place a house there...LOL...and all got the same message- Housing cannot be created in this area!!!!!

 

[Glacier-GL]

I know right... they brought down the two houses I placed in there, but 2 out of my 3 friends who I know also placed a house there didn't even get there's deleted.

 

[Limlight]

There is one in Yew Fel on Atlantic.....just north of the bank....right in the middle of guard zone.

I paged a GM...response?

They directed me to Draconi's comment a week ago...lol

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

They haven't handled this very well, have they.

First they drop some houses, then they tell us they will wait until Monday, then they wait until long after Monday.

Frankly if they picked one strategy and pursued it, we'd be far better off even regardless of what that strategy was.

-Galen's player

 

[Kith Kanan]

Not realy they need to be deleted and that asap !!!!

 

[Basara]

At least, JC has a right to complain - IIRC he or someone affiliated with him had one of the houses illegally placed deleted right off the bat, with no chance to recover the contents and drop it, before they put off dropping the others - then didn't drop all the others.

 

[THP]

Thats what i cant understand??

They dropped some before monday contents and all!! yet on some shards they are still there with there gloating owners??? WTF??

 

[Capricious]

Need consistency on this.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

Need consistency on this.

The only thing that has ever been consistent about EA/Mythic and their policies has, in fact, been the fact that they are always inconsistent.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

yes, an inconsistency on the UO Teams part here is justification for ....

Why Me and NOT THEM?

They should have just deleted all the houses when they were placed, now for some mysterious reason, Some Exists, despite the edict while others have been actioned on.

 

[Sebrina]

Need consistency on this.

I totally agree! -and that is just my oppinion. Players aren't trying to be cops, but simply notice the inconsistencies in the game. Anyone for a handfull of bugs and kirks?

 

[Nystul]

Need consistency on this.

x2


My britain keep was deleted what about the others?

WTG dev team? rofl... how sad ;(

 

[envinyatar]

There's still a house in the guard zone by the waterfalls near the Justice shrine... and its an eyesore..

 

[drinkbeerallday]

They shouldn't have allowed the houses to be placed to begin with.

 

[Nystul]

They shouldn't have allowed the houses to be placed to begin with.

They should have taken down shards to fix thier mistake rather than a day later. People would have still been upset either way but I would think slight shard downtime would be better than people thinking they're getting new houses etc. and risk decaying thiers.

I mean why wouldn't a player place one if they found out they could? With all the crap EA has been letting people get away with you would think that a house in gz or partially in gz is nothing compared to the other stuff. Especially since they already existed from way back...

But I guess we all forgot how used and crammed the land is that those houses were places is... I mean it also caused such problems that a player may call guards on a mongbat from the house too... lol...

 

[Nystul]

Also if they woulda taken down shards and fixed it right away stuff like this wouldn't be going on weeks later... Everyone would have forgot the shards got taken down for an hour by now.

 

[drinkbeerallday]

Also if they woulda taken down shards and fixed it right away stuff like this wouldn't be going on weeks later... Everyone would have forgot the shards got taken down for an hour by now.

or, as i've been saying, they could have left Pub 55 on Test Center so that the bugs could have been fixed. i don't think anyone would have cared much if they had to wait an extra few days for vet rewards and new seeds.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

They shouldn't have allowed the houses to be placed to begin with.

That would require them to, you know, actually use the testing process to determine what's going on. As usual, it was a "Hey, it's been on TC for a week (where very little actual testing goes on)," followed by, "We put it on Origin for a day, nothing serious went wrong," and then, "Roll out."

If they actually had, you know, a testing process that actually tested stuff, well, you know, it'd be amazing. Instead, we find all kinds of stuff AFTER the fact, including stuff that should be on a list of things to check.

For instance:

ALL CHANGES TO GUARD ZONES:
- Are guard zones functioning as intended where not changed?
- Is house placement still disallowed?
- Are thieves able to be guard whacked?
...

For ALL points in the game, there should be a specific list of major subsystems checked when they implement a change to a major system.

But they don't have that in place.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

or, as i've been saying, they could have left Pub 55 on Test Center so that the bugs could have been fixed. i don't think anyone would have cared much if they had to wait an extra few days for vet rewards and new seeds.

Considering all of the 11 year vets are still going to be waiting for 11 year rewards, I'm sure none of us would have been upset with a few more days.

Since most of us who thought the "random" reward choices were stupid, we'd have waited a few days for it to be fixed.

And since most of the gardeners would have liked to have seen cross-breeding and colored plants, they'd have waited a bit more time for their systems to be developed correctly.

Trouble with Mythic is that they've got UO as a ******* stepchild that they just don't care that much about, and everything is about how MUCH crap they can pump out, not the QUALITY of the crap. It's what happens when you have too few people on a development team to handle what needs to be handled.

 

[Nystul]

or, as i've been saying, they could have left Pub 55 on Test Center so that the bugs could have been fixed. i don't think anyone would have cared much if they had to wait an extra few days for vet rewards and new seeds.

Yeah that's true.

The problem with test shard is it's just a huge do whatever you want type of shard. If they would limit test shards playability during ACTUAL TESTING things could get tested more percise. Then after testing is over they could just open it up to the full do whatever you what test shard.

Test shard should also have a gump about the new changes that need testing, and a way to submit bugs or errors with the new content on test shard.

The bad thing is they obviously knew about the guard zone changes, and they were pretty quick on the whole house issue. They should have NEVER let it happen on all the other shards after it hit on origin or whatever shard gets it for ONE WHOLE DAY FIRST... Origin or whatever should have it also more than one lousy day...

edit: Also why should they care about players being upset for having to wait a few extra days. I'd rather have better quality publishes then rushed ones so often.

 

[JC the Builder]

I just went and checked the house I was referring to when making this topic and it is now gone. Whether that is because someone paged on it or they somehow went through the records to check, who knows. If they are now relying on players to page then it will be easy for some people to get away with these new houses.

 

[kelmo]

Maybe they will get around to it as time allows. Mistakes happen, things come up, priorities get shifted. This is not nearly the big deal some make it in my opinion (this is my opinion. It in no way reflects the opinions of Stratics or it's owners/admins, Siege Perilous, my mom or the voices in my head).

It is not that big of a deal. We all read the terms of service. It is all just pixels and we do not own them. Page away if it makes you feel better. Rant here if it makes you feel better.

I suggest every one take a deep breath and say, OK there was a glitch. It will be repaired. I hope you are all spending as much energy warning friends and foes in game. Your guild mates. Posting on the forums you post on, etc... as you are here.

I know posting my opinion (see above disclaimer) will open me up to all sorts of... interaction. *smiles* That is OK, I grew up in a harsh place. I am tough, thick skinned and too stupid to be scared.

I am used too waiting. Welcome to my... world. *chuckles*

 

[Radun]

Not a big deal..? You think people placing houses in Guard Zone is 'not a big deal'?!
Come with me, I've got something to show you... and I don't think you're going to like it.

*leads kelmo off to show him how GZ houses impact the game ('Christmas Carol' style)*

 

[kelmo]

Not a big deal..? You think people placing houses in Guard Zone is 'not a big deal'?!
Come with me, I've got something to show you... and I don't think you're going to like it.

*leads kelmo off to show him how GZ houses impact the game ('Christmas Carol' style)*

They will be gone soon enough. I am very used to GZ houses. They will be gone soon on your shard. On mine? I could show you a thing or two. Trust me.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

... precious -> my mom or the voices in my head ...
*smiles* That is OK, I grew up in a harsh place. I am tough, thick skinned and too stupid to be scared.

Welcome to my... world. *chuckles*

Hum, if you did not grow up in the Original UO AND post on CoB AND did not post opposite Famine OR be forced to read through his crap, were 4 out of 5 words were either gratuitous profanity or sexist slander or racial slander, to find the spec of information that was relevant and worth discussing, then one can rightfully question what you call "Thick Skinned"

 

[kelmo]

Hum, if you did not grow up in the Original UO AND post on CoB AND did not post opposite Famine OR be forced to read through his crap, were 4 out of 5 words were either gratuitous profanity or sexist slander or racial slander, to find the spec of information that was relevant and worth discussing, then one can rightfully question what you call "Thick Skinned"

So this is a personal matter? I get it now.

 

[RaDian FlGith]

I suggest every one take a deep breath and say, OK there was a glitch. It will be repaired.

*chuckle* I'm sorry... have you played UO long?

 

[kelmo]

*smiles*

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

So this is a personal matter? I get it now.

Uhm, I did not want to imply that my skin is thicker than yours errr ... hum ... this is not going to sound right.

Come to think of it, I don't think I want to have this conversation

 

[kelmo]

Uhm, I did not want to imply that my skin is thicker than yours errr ... hum ... this is not going to sound right.

Come to think of it, I don't think I want to have this conversation

good call...

 

[kelmo]

My last word on this. Many were upset this happened. Make it go away! Opps stuff! (pixels) were lost. Please stop making it go away!

*laughs*

We own nothing in this game. Nothing...

 

[Ailish]

Some of you guys blow my mind. I mean really. Draconi *specifically stated* that what happened was the GZ removal slipped into the publish (from when P55 and P56 were supposed to be combined) but that the house placement part of that code did not slip in with it. In other words, this GZ thing HAD a built in preventative in it ... but it got fragmented when they split the publish SO YOU ALL WOULD STOP CRYING "where is our publish?!?!" <---- Honest oops. Should have been caught on TC or Origin ... but bet me the people on Origin DID catch it and shut up so they could exploit it elsewhere?

And the plants? Sakkarah stated she did not WANT to make them cross-polinate, that they did not make SENSE to her to do that (given what the plants were). And now you say she was slacking not doing it? No, she made a developer's decision that this did not make sense for the plants in question. You might not LIKE her choice, but as a developer of the game (and of that system), it is HERS to make. < ---- Not a bug or laziness. Developer choice. Cope.

 

[AesSedai]

- Well said Ailish

 

[Lord Kynd]

I dont know of every spot that was placed....

But iam talking about the big grass patch just north of Britain moongate...U know the grassy patch that takes a 1818 ... that every single player who as ever played uo will have tried to place a house there...LOL...and all got the same message- Housing cannot be created in this area!!!!!

go to atlantic and look at that spot , this should tell you why ..

now go pettition EA to add this area to your shard.

 

[JC the Builder]

Should have been caught on TC or Origin ... but bet me the people on Origin DID catch it and shut up so they could exploit it elsewhere?

If someone found out about this on Origin then the first shard they would have loaded up with houses was Atlantic. When we uncovered this late in the day there was basically no houses anywhere that we could see. So there was never any greed or malice behind what happened. As soon as I figured it out I let everyone know.

 

[Arnie QuickPalm]

This is yet another dumb question but why would it be so bad to allow houses in the guard zones i say open every city/GZ to houses maybe help drive the market down in luna

 

[Magdalene]

To the thread participants: please stay civil...