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Jeremy: Fixing the faction crafting menu means that you will be able to make blessed

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Draxous

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We'll make sure that faction items do not get blessed on Siege.


This is pretty stupid,

I played a mage on siege I played every temp in this game - a stealth archer or a tamer, and bottom line this may be the most un-balanced system in the game...

all someone needs to do is
make a dexxer give him bushido(dp lightning strike till the guy dies)

There is no incentive of playing a mage on siege, its all tamers dexxers and archers, which is what keeps me and a long list of other pvpers from moving there...

Once faction armro got taken out I quit siege, Unbalanced and un fun...
Dude... I'm a mage and I have no problems slaughtering people...

Just the other day I was fighting 4 against me and almost killed the 1 guy I was attacking way more than a handful of times... and I would have killed him if I would of had pots. (damn dp dexers)

playing a mage is fine... you just have to get used to it... since siege is different then the reg-shard set-ups
 
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archite666

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Hm I must say, the faction armor and monster ignore would make a awesome reason to play factions IMHO, the monster ignore on pets would be awesome.

The faction armor might be abused though, Im not sure, I would definitly have to play with it on TC first.
 
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butthead owns

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well first they would need to get the silver he hasnt added prices yet and most things never even go to seige for that reason of no insurance . if he thought of it he could make the silver 50 mill for such an items in silver this would make it a little harder for ya i guess
 

GalenKnighthawke

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what on earth are you saying trammie...when benefits are available they are usually taken advantage of I don't care what server its on. Just because we prefer no insurance does not mean that someone on siege wouldn't use the faction bless option. Beside not losing your items when you die(which would be like in tram) what would the people who aren't in factions do? well they'd be screwed wouldnt they
I'm saying, Fellie, that if people played on Siege because they preferred to not use insurance, then the existence of a mechanic to bless or insure items wouldn't matter, because no one would use it.

For this to be an issue at all thus calls the premise into question.

Or is it the case that *fake shocked look on face* players on Siege are pretty much like players anywhere and will use an advantage if it is offered to them?

Moot point, though, D. has already addressed this issue, in this thread.

-Galen's player
 
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MoonglowMerchant

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I'm saying, Fellie, that if people played on Siege because they preferred to not use insurance, then the existence of a mechanic to bless or insure items wouldn't matter, because no one would use it.

For this to be an issue at all thus calls the premise into question.

Or is it the case that *fake shocked look on face* players on Siege are pretty much like players anywhere and will use an advantage if it is offered to them?

Moot point, though, D. has already addressed this issue, in this thread.

-Galen's player
Everyone on Siege wants insurance. There, I said it. Now go away.
 

Norrar

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There will be no point to PvP.

Let's say this goes through and we fight. You kill me. What will you get?

Well, If I Siege bless my weapon and Faction bless my armor. You will get two jewels.

If I use a throwaway wep, Siege bless a jewel, and faction bless my armor, you will get one jewel.

You think you are going to loot my regs? No you won't. I'll craft a full set of faction blessed LRC armor.

This will kill Siege.
hitting the nail on the head hehe (and yes i do play siege, just not that often)
 

kelmo

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Originally Posted by Draconi_EA
We'll make sure that faction items do not get blessed on Siege.

That answered my question. Whether you can use it or not is of little consequence. You can still take it and disable the opponent.
 

AEowynSP

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Why can't we ignore Mods that are not the MOD for this particular forum? The only place they should not be ignored is in their own little forums.
Really annoying that we can't ignore some particular a-holes.
On that note, why do annoying little production shard kiddies post on Siege specific threads? Can't they just not exist away from their carebear threads?
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Indeed!

And to answer your question Galen
"If people play Siege because they don't want insurance, then why would any of you ever make a blessed suit?"

There will always be a few jerks around that will try to mess things up for the rest of us. Some people have a win at all costs attitude (insert bug/exploit/illegal 3rd party program here) why throw faction blessed items into the mix on Siege?
Siege is a place where equiptment is far less important than skill and nowhere outside a secure room in your home is truly safe. It's also been described as a shard as close to the "old" UO as you can get without going to a free shard. The community spoke up and said they didn't want blessed items.

So thank you Draconi for your prompt reply and thank you devs for keeping blessed items off Siege.
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Everyone on Siege wants insurance. There, I said it. Now go away.

I originally wrote a longer post....But decided shorter was better.

I will have no reason to post in Siege-centric threads if Siege players would stop attempting to make every thread about them. While that statement isn't literally true, it's pretty damn near.

This thread is a good example of one I'd have every reason to just leave be if you all weren't out there trying to, very close to literally, make everything else about you all.

You guys had a moderator doing a thread that he admitted was a rant and should be moved (though it wasn't for days), wherein he said that if Siege went, so would the game entirely. You can't get much more ridiculously in your face than that.

*shrugs* Don't try to get in everyone's face then whine when someone gives it back. If you all weren't doing what you were doing on these boards, I would have no reason to post in any Siege thread save to ask questions out of curiosity.

-Galen's player
 
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MoonglowMerchant

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I originally wrote a longer post....But decided shorter was better.

I will have no reason to post in Siege-centric threads if Siege players would stop attempting to make every thread about them. While that statement isn't literally true, it's pretty damn near.

This thread is a good example of one I'd have every reason to just leave be if you all weren't out there trying to, very close to literally, make everything else about you all.

You guys had a moderator doing a thread that he admitted was a rant and should be moved (though it wasn't for days), wherein he said that if Siege went, so would the game entirely. You can't get much more ridiculously in your face than that.

*shrugs* Don't try to get in everyone's face then whine when someone gives it back. If you all weren't doing what you were doing on these boards, I would have no reason to post in any Siege thread save to ask questions out of curiosity.

-Galen's player
You are right again. Siege is the devil. Now go away.
 

kelmo

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Yes. I went on a rant. It was dealt with. As far as the if Siege goes comment...

Do you really believe if EA/Mythic starts shutting down shards it is a good thing?
 
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galefan2004

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With all due resepct, JC. When you play Siege, you can discuss the ramifications.
With all due respect...the fact that his money and my money and everyone else's money that plays on production shards goes to pay for your hemoraging low population shard means we can talk about it as we wish.
 
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galefan2004

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You guys and your "Walk a mile in our Siege shoes" make me ill. It's just another shard. You act like it takes nerves of steel and ice cold heart to log in and play. The people that brag about Siege and ask for others to come over and try it, are simply the first ones that went over years ago and have developed characters. Good for you, kill each other over and over again, steal from each other over and over again, have ridiculous Role Playing events where you all discuss how great you are over and over again. My opinion is the same as many others with regards to Siege. Shut it down, let the 137 people that play there cancel their accounts and spend resources on something else. The rest of us on regular shards,unless I"m speaking for myself, are simply tired of Siege being the single shard that ruins the game for the rest of us. /end rant.:gun:
I'm 100% in agreement.
 
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galefan2004

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Why can't we ignore Mods that are not the MOD for this particular forum? The only place they should not be ignored is in their own little forums.

Really annoying that we can't ignore some particular a-holes.
No...

What is really annoying is that Stratics thought they needed a Siege forum. Then to combat the trash that started posting on it they needed a moderator. Because of the ammount of trash that come from Siege they apparently chose the least trashy person who still continuously trolls UHall and posts posts that he should be locking if they were posted by someone else knowingly.
 

TheScoundrelRico

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Why can't we ignore Mods that are not the MOD for this particular forum? The only place they should not be ignored is in their own little forums.

Really annoying that we can't ignore some particular a-holes.
No...

What is really annoying is that Stratics thought they needed a Siege forum. Then to combat the trash that started posting on it they needed a moderator. Because of the ammount of trash that come from Siege they apparently chose the least trashy person who still continuously trolls UHall and posts posts that he should be locking if they were posted by someone else knowingly.
Namecalling ftw!!!...la
 
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galefan2004

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On that note, why do annoying little production shard kiddies post on Siege specific threads? Can't they just not exist away from their carebear threads?
:grouphug:
Because you post on our threads? Because we pay for your shard? Because we would all like to see your shard shut down, you leave the game, and the money they are wasting on Siege spent on anything else...hell I'd rather see them buy the company employees lunch every week then sink another penny into Siege.
 

TheScoundrelRico

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On that note, why do annoying little production shard kiddies post on Siege specific threads? Can't they just not exist away from their carebear threads?
:grouphug:
Because you post on our threads? Because we pay for your shard? Because we would all like to see your shard shut down, you leave the game, and the money they are wasting on Siege spent on anything else...hell I'd rather see them buy the company employees lunch every week then sink another penny into Siege.
ROFL. Someone seems to have had their feeling hurts. Got biter?...la
 
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galefan2004

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Yes. I went on a rant. It was dealt with. As far as the if Siege goes comment...
No...it was not dealt with. I still see UO Moderator under your name. You breaking the rules you are susposed to enforce. Once you did that, the only way of dealing with it was removing you as a moderator...plain and simple.

Do you really believe if EA/Mythic starts shutting down shards it is a good thing?
Yes. Shards all cost money to run. When the player base on that shard isn't paying enough money to keep that shard running then it falls on every other shard to keep that shard running. Therefore, because Siege is not paying for itself all the production shards (that you guys hate so much) are paying for it. Therefore, shut it down, and let you guys all leave then they will be saving money, and they can reinvest that money into the production shards.
 
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galefan2004

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Link?...la
I'm basing it on the number one whine you guys always make...our shard has no players. Therefore, I am going to say that its not making any money because it has no players. I don't have to have a link when I'm simply redirecting your whines at you in a different light.
 
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galefan2004

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Namecalling ftw!!!...la
It was directed at a POPULATION not an individual. Therefore, its not actually against the ROC. If you thought it was directed at you then prove it. I never said I was talking about you. I was simply talking about your shard.
 

TheScoundrelRico

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Yes. Shards all cost money to run. When the player base on that shard isn't paying enough money to keep that shard running then it falls on every other shard to keep that shard running. Therefore, because Siege is not paying for itself all the production shards (that you guys hate so much) are paying for it. Therefore, shut it down, and let you guys all leave then they will be saving money, and they can reinvest that money into the production shards.
Do you somehow happen to have access to the EA/Mythic books? You have no clue, and are only guessing at the numbers. So until you actually have facts to base your opinions, might I suggest you hold your feelings closer to the vest...you are making yourself look silly...la
 
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galefan2004

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ROFL. Someone seems to have had their feeling hurts. Got biter?...la
I'm not bitter, I'm just honest. I could care less about you either which way. I know that is probably hard for you to understand. I know its probably hard for you to realise not everyone cares about you, but its true.
 
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galefan2004

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Do you somehow happen to have access to the EA/Mythic books? You have no clue, and are only guessing at the numbers. So until you actually have facts to base your opinions, might I suggest you hold your feelings closer to the vest...you are making yourself look silly...la
I'm basing it on your guys rants...we have no population...WAH! I'm also basing it on the fact that SP is always the lowest populated server (below every other server) and still believes it needs stuff catered directly to them. You guys stop whining about fixes to your underpopulated shards at the expense of time spent on production shards, and I will gladly forget you exist.
 
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galefan2004

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Yes it is. You should be banned!!!...la
I've been doing it for 8 years and haven't been banned. Its not worse than A LOT of what you do. I haven't even been warned for it. I never directly assaulted anyone. If you want to put yourself in the group then do so. When your forum moderator has made worse infractions then I have, you don't really have much room to talk about who should be banned.
 
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galefan2004

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Ummm, it's "couldn't care less". Please take note...la
Actually both are acceptable. You might know a little about spelling (enough to try to make yourself all high and mighty), but I know a little more about grammar than you do.

Every sentence can be positive or negative based on word choice. I decided to go with a positive light.

I could care less... "I care, I just care less about it than other stuff!"

I couldn't care less..."I don't even care less about it than other stuff (I must not really care at all).
 

TheScoundrelRico

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Ummm, it's "couldn't care less". Please take note...la
Actually both are acceptable. You might know a little about spelling (enough to try to make yourself all high and mighty), but I know a little more about grammar than you do.

Every sentence can be positive or negative based on word choice. I decided to go with a positive light.

I could care less... "I care, I just care less about it than other stuff!"

I couldn't care less..."I don't even care less about it than other stuff (I must not really care at all).


...la
 

AEowynSP

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let the 137 people that play there
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Made me laugh mate, cheers.
You need to check your #s there sweetheart.
Siege only allows one char per account. My friends and guildmates are more than that.
Look at the guild rankings for Siege then look at the guilds on shards that let you have 5-7 char per account.
Do the math.
Top guild according to stratics over all shards LLTS (Atlantic) 502 members 338 veterans
Top guild on siege GIL 95 and 62
Lets just assume the minimum of 5 char/ or more but in other guilds.
So thats 475 and 310.
So this proves that Siege is just as populated as any other shard at least in terms of money being paid for accounts.
 
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Crystilastamous

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Even though I have helped secure Atlantic's Shadowlords faction constant victories and then moved on to lead one of the most successful PVP guilds in UO history, I clearly have no PVP experience. :popcorn:

Lies, HOT is a bad guild with poor leadership. Most HOT members agree.
 
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